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On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

The sheeple are the one's that don't realize gays are not out to destroy the world The sheeple are the ones that want to legally discriminate against because of unfounded fear mongering.
Most people are sheep. Some are just a bit smarter and more generous than Rush Limbaugh fans.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

It just is...not clever, its just the reality. You can ignore it as being the reality all you want.

You can advocate and keep advocating all you want, just as will we on this side. We happen to have had the majority and have made most of the rules. Maybe you will be the majority some day, but not if I can help it. I like living in a saner world, not a completely upside down one. Plenty of other countries allow that silliness, why does your side have this desire to change the way the vast majority of us would like it to be?


You can try to change the meaning of words all you want and all it does is make you sound desperate.
You can call me juvenile names all you want but it just makes you sound like you have no real defense of your statement.
You can can claim you are the majority, but you aren't and your panicked efforts to cling to the past reveal your fears

Change has and always will come. You are best advised to adapted instead of fight because YOU can not stop it.

BTW sanity is subjective.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

The sheeple are the one's that don't realize gays are not out to destroy the world The sheeple are the ones that want to legally discriminate against because of unfounded fear mongering.

No one said they were out to destroy the world. Those are your words not mine.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

No one said they were out to destroy the world. Those are your words not mine.

Well you sure do act like you think they are. From NAMBLA BS to your active promotion of discrimination in public accommodations.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

I read ten words this time and still you have nothing to say. Next up, nine.
Go away please, I get less annoyed with mosquitoes. You are welcome to take your own form of pursuit of happiness to another poster. It is obvious, and should be to the moderators, that you are not reading my posts yet now send what seems not in any way an attempt to debate me, but rather a rather lame attempt to what ... ?

Oh, but true, lost that privilege to engage as I certainly do not waste much time on those who purposely ignore a post and yet still desire to respond, with nothing of substance... no less...

No...much less...
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Go away please, I get less annoyed with mosquitoes. You are welcome to take your own form of pursuit of happiness to another poster. It is obvious, and should be to the moderators, that you are not reading my posts yet now send what seems not in any way an attempt to debate me, but rather a rather lame attempt to what ... ?

Oh, but true, lost that privilege to engage as I certainly do not waste much time on those who purposely ignore a post and yet still desire to respond, with nothing of substance... no less...no...much less...
Nine words. Perfect. Do you think it is possible for you to write two short, simple, and clear sentences?

And since no one responded to your flood of irrational words except for me, no one else cares even as little as I do.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

You can try to change the meaning of words all you want and all it does is make you sound desperate.
You can call me juvenile names all you want but it just makes you sound like you have no real defense of your statement.
You can can claim you are the majority, but you aren't and your panicked efforts to cling to the past reveal your fears

Change has and always will come. You are best advised to adapted instead of fight because YOU can not stop it.

BTW sanity is subjective.
First of all, what names did I call you? That is a straw man, or in this case a straw woman maybe.

Secondly, who are the real ones trying to change the meanings of words? I say they are straight [ no pun intended ] out what they actually mean. Equal. Same. Exact Same. Same Rights. Same Restrictions. All pretty easy to understand, no tricks up my sleeve, no pulling a rabbit out of a hat...all there in the dictionary, be my guest, have a look.

YOU and yours are the ones that are trying to change meanings, and you want me, us, to go along with it. Nope, not gonna happen. This cannot be made to be, or appear to be, normal. Sorry. Tolerance of this if you want to do what you want to do in your own privacy, cool...we tolerate it. Force and liberal peer pressuring is, and will be, insufficient to go much further. You folks bit off more than you can chew with forcing SSM, wanted your cake and eat it too, too bad, soo sad...should have thought of that before, we the not so meek now, are alert, are onto y'all.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Nine words. Perfect. Do you think it is possible for you to write two short, simple, and clear sentences?

And since no one responded to your flood of irrational words except for me, no one else cares even as little as I do.
Nah, just like you they have no argument, most are smart enough not to respond when they have no argument. Most, but by no means all.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Nah, just like you they have no argument, most are smart enough not to respond when they have no argument. Most, but by no means all.
Hey, two sentences? They aren't very good ones but it's a start. And my arguments start around page one. Feel free to respond them, clearly if possible.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Easy peasy as a first grader would say.

1. Who has screamed, who has wrapped themselves in a flag? Nobody.
2. We talk the Constitution, can quote from it, many of us know how they arrived at what is in the Constitution, have read and are aware of the Federalist Papers, the Anti Federalists and their papers, the state by state ratification process of the original Constitution...
3. Everyone is free to believe as they want...does not mean they always get what they want, that is impossible on the face of it... so our founders developed a framework for governing, and we know how to use it, know what it says and why [ see No. 2]. There is a process you must go through. You are welcomed to fight for what you think is right just as we are... just have to get the majority on your side is all.
4. Freedom of religion is expressly stated in Amendment One of the Constitution... nobody I know of is advocating a national church...might you elucidate for us what the heck you may be babbling about in that regard?
5. You too would get tax breaks if you married the opposite sex, exactly as I do. EQUAL, exactly the SAME.
6. There are several books out there, also articles, on just how happy we conservatives are compared to liberals, you obviously would be surprised by the results.

There, easy peasy...next...?

So you just flat dodged the question and proved my point if you think for a second that gay couples receive the same treatment under the law you and the rest of your ilk are delusional!
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

wow on a side story
Minneapolis Courts Chicago's Same-Sex Couples : NPR
the mayor of Minneapolis is now trying to cash in marry gays so they can enjoy at least partially equal rights in their homes states with this new IRS ruling.

Yep the fall of discrimination if coming fast. I said it as soon as DOMA fail, all the bans were in place and the couple court cases that when to the states supreme courts deemed it to violate equality.

THis is awesome. The discrimination bills are doomed.
Like i said its actually going to make it easier now because those bills are what will be found to discriminate and violate equality.

couple cases here and there and its over, all its gonna take is gay couple being denied visitation or spousal rights at a hospital or a spouse to die in a state that doesn't recognize gay marriage etc etc.

the path is set and its filling in stone by stone.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

wow on a side story
Minneapolis Courts Chicago's Same-Sex Couples : NPR
the mayor of Minneapolis is now trying to cash in marry gays so they can enjoy at least partially equal rights in their homes states with this new IRS ruling.

Yep the fall of discrimination if coming fast. I said it as soon as DOMA fail, all the bans were in place and the couple court cases that when to the states supreme courts deemed it to violate equality.

THis is awesome. The discrimination bills are doomed.
Like i said its actually going to make it easier now because those bills are what will be found to discriminate and violate equality.

couple cases here and there and its over, all its gonna take is gay couple being denied visitation or spousal rights at a hospital or a spouse to die in a state that doesn't recognize gay marriage etc etc.

the path is set and its filling in stone by stone.

According to Republicans gay couples have equal rights except for those pesky tax benefits, and the 1000 odd other benefits!
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Hey, two sentences? They aren't very good ones but it's a start. And my arguments start around page one. Feel free to respond them, clearly if possible.

Yeah, could only do the drivel :thumbdownup until page 5, still not a thing of any true substance. Just emptiness, like words if they were space.

:caution: Should we even mention the admonishment given within that span? :naughty :spank:

Sooo......Ciao, times up, fifteen seconds of fame,then poof.... :bon_voyag
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

While I agree that overall the tide is turning on same sex marriage, I believe it will be a long time before it is universally legal in the US. There are a lot of very conservative and traditional states in the United States where the federal government does not have jurisdiction to change state marriage laws. I don't see in the near future many, if any, Bible belt states to change their stances on such laws.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

So you just flat dodged the question and proved my point if you think for a second that gay couples receive the same treatment under the law you and the rest of your ilk are delusional!
Prove it.

And didn't dodge a darn thing.
 
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According to Republicans gay couples have equal rights except for those pesky tax benefits, and the 1000 odd other benefits!

well i have heard and seen some very stupid and uneducated people on TV and radio try to make thaefalse claim that gays already have equal rights but nobody honest and educated buys lies so mentally inept and retarded.

but on a side note, its not fair to group all republicans together became many support equal rights, "stereo-typically" that might not be the case but many do.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Yeah, could only do the drivel :thumbdownup until page 5, still not a thing of any true substance. Just emptiness, like words if they were space.

:caution: Should we even mention the admonishment given within that span? :naughty :spank:

Sooo......Ciao, times up, fifteen seconds of fame,then poof.... :bon_voyag
I enjoyed your cartoon. Maybe Disney is hiring?
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

While I agree that overall the tide is turning on same sex marriage, I believe it will be a long time before it is universally legal in the US. There are a lot of very conservative and traditional states in the United States where the federal government does not have jurisdiction to change state marriage laws. I don't see in the near future many, if any, Bible belt states to change their stances on such laws.

one supreme court case and that gives them the jurisdiction

a couple state supreme court cases have already deemed the banning to violate equality which is funny because all those states that made banning are actually going to make it easier when its push now

i think it will be 5 years max
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

well i have heard and seen some very stupid and uneducated people on TV and radio try to make thaefalse claim that gays already have equal rights but nobody honest and educated buys lies so mentally inept and retarded.

but on a side note, its not fair to group all republicans together became many support equal rights, "stereo-typically" that might not be the case but many do.


Honestly, at this point I lump them all together! Why because when you get right down to it they are nothing more than bible thumping bigots who try to cloak themselves in the idea they know what is best. They are the very people our founding fathers got away from. They are not for equal rights at one point a long time ago they were but, the party pandered so hard for the bible thumpers, birthers, racist, and bigots, they are now a very marginal party with no direction. They remind me of a baby rattlesnake snapping at everything that scares them
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

one supreme court case and that gives them the jurisdiction

a couple state supreme court cases have already deemed the banning to violate equality which is funny because all those states that made banning are actually going to make it easier when its push now

i think it will be 5 years max

the issue is getting it back to the supreme court. I know it is a hot topic but we haven't seen a major abortion case in the SC since Roe vs. Wade, and that is certainly a hot topic. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see the SC rule that barring people from marriage due to sexual preference is illegal, but I just don't see it happening universally for a longer period of time.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

the issue is getting it back to the supreme court. I know it is a hot topic but we haven't seen a major abortion case in the SC since Roe vs. Wade, and that is certainly a hot topic. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see the SC rule that barring people from marriage due to sexual preference is illegal, but I just don't see it happening universally for a longer period of time.
They will sit back as long as possible, and see Planned Parenthood v Casey for one. There are others as well.
 
Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long

Honestly, at this point I lump them all together! Why because when you get right down to it they are nothing more than bible thumping bigots who try to cloak themselves in the idea they know what is best. They are the very people our founding fathers got away from. They are not for equal rights at one point a long time ago they were but, the party pandered so hard for the bible thumpers, birthers, racist, and bigots, they are now a very marginal party with no direction. They remind me of a baby rattlesnake snapping at everything that scares them

well you are on your own there i could never support that type of hypocritical, hyperbolic partisan, Its part of the problem with politics today. You are making yourself look just like those you are describing.
you are factually wrong because many support gay rights and are not bible thumpers
 
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well you are on your own there i could never support that type of hypocritical, hyperbolic partisan, Its part of the problem with politics today. You are making yourself look just like thouse you are describing.
you are factually wrong because many support gay rights and are not bible thumpers

Did ya notice she is from Texas;)
 
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See my first post (cited above). When the author of that article presumes to cite Abraham Lincoln on behalf of the homosexual cause, he is not only brazenly disrespecting Abraham Lincoln but the very cause for which Mr. Lincoln made that statement. That cause was slavery. Disrespecting the plight of the blacks in this nation for one's own selfish purposes, a purpose which has precisely ZERO in common with blacks and slavery, is blatant racism.

There, does that explain it?

He wasn't citing Lincoln on behalf of the "homosexual cause", that was simply your knee-jerk reactionism in an attempt to attack him without being able to attack the content. It was an ANALOGY. Do you understand what an analogy is?
 
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