Re: On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long
You certainly are deflecting. Obnoxiously so.
You said sodomy was deviant and barbaric. I quoted you on that.
I asked you to define sodomy.
You tend to use that word a lot when the subject is about gay rights and/or gay marriage.
Sodomy has NOTHING to do with gay anything.
The absolute vast majority of straight people actively and enthusiastically partake in "sodomy" quite often.
I'd be willing to bet you're a gigantic liar if you'd state you've never been involved in any kind of sodomy.
Sodomy is oral sex and anal sex.
In case you're just entirely ignorant of life in general, neither is barbaric or deviant.
The definition of deviant is basically "not normal", which means that anyone who has not partaken in oral sex is more than likely the deviant.
Straight people the world over are actively and enthusiastically engaging in both oral and anal sex every single day. Have been since the dawn of time.
To suggest that what straight people do in a loving and committed relationship/marriage is deviant and barbaric is asinine and absurd.
So what's YOUR definition of "sodomy"?
Or are you going to deflect yet again?
To re-define the word "sodomy" as something
straight people do in a loving and committed relationship is what's asinine and absurd. Where did you come up with that nonsensical definition anyway?
You are correct though in defining it in terms of oral and anal sex - and here's why (from an answer I've already provided in
a thread you started elsewhere):
The word "sodomite" comes from a narrative in the bible, specifically from Genesis 19:4f -
...the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”
The word "sodomy" generally refers to the behavior of those men of Sodom who wanted to have sex with ("know") the two men visiting Lot. The bible doesn't use the word "sodomy" per se; but the behavior is quite clear - men wanting to have sex with other men - and it is regarded variously in the bible as "worthless," "wicked," "exceedingly wicked," "abominable" and so forth...
In that example, the two men with whom the Sodomite men wanted to have sex were angels, sent to rescue Lot and his family from God's judgment on Sodom.
There's another, similar example in the bible - in Judges 19, where a Levite was visiting a town in Gibeah and staying with someone there:
...the men of the city, worthless fellows, surrounded the house, beating on the door. And they said to the old man, the master of the house, “Bring out the man who came into your house, that we may know him.”
Same scenario, the men of the city wanted to have sex with the Levite priest visiting Gibeah.
The outcome of that incident was a civil war that wiped out the tribe of Benjamin.
So "sodomy" is a
specific reference to
men of the town of Sodom
wanting to have sex with other men. Without going into the sordid details, the various ways men can have sex with one another are rather limited - but oral and anal are certainly included.
Suggesting a man and a woman engaging in oral or anal sex is "sodomy" is an intentional re-definition of the word - which purpose is little more than a vain attempt to pretend that oral and anal sex by two men (i.e. sodomy) is somehow "normal" because men and women can engage in oral and anal sex too.
So you are completely in the wrong - sodomy most definitely and conclusively is sex between two or more men; exclusively sex between two or more men.
