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On gay marriage, America's house may not stay divided for long [W:29, 210]

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TiredOfLife said:
It's really a very simple issue guys. Can any two adults get a license from that state that when signed properly and by an authority binds them to each other for life? The answer is not everywhere yet in the US, but not for much longer. Once they can, they are equal in practice not just theory.
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Nope, it'll go on until the nation dies. In all 50 states a brother and sister still cannot get a marriage license. Oh the humanity! :roll:
 
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Bronson said:
What do you interpret it to be?
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Why are you answering my question with a question?

Are you afraid of the response you'll get?
 
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Bronson said:
So what?

Marriage as an institution has specific social and economic purposes. It was never created so cater to all sexual behavior/tastes/desires

Using your measuring stick anything goes. Anyone can marry whatever they "desire"
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Bravo! and it is the institutions that have made this country so wonderfully great that ALL are now under attack. So those who were so adamant on redefining marriage, then they can take full responsibility for opening Pandora's box because now they have laid the foundation for All sexual orientations to be seen as valid. Mom and son, Dad and daughter, brother and sister, Nambla member and an under aged boy, Billy and his sheep, Sarah and her snake. Whether they want to admit it or not they have created a free for all. And in the process are setting up law that will permanently remove a person's right to conscience and be forced to accept it all. After all who are any of us to deny the one they love!
 
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vesper said:
Bravo! and it is the institutions that have made this country so wonderfully great that ALL are now under attack. So those who were so adamant on redefining marriage, then they can take full responsibility for opening Pandora's box because now they have laid the foundation for All sexual orientations to be seen as valid. Mom and son, Dad and daughter, brother and sister, Nambla member and an under aged boy, Billy and his sheep, Sarah and her snake. Whether they want to admit it or not they have created a free for all. And in the process are setting up law that will permanently remove a person's right to conscience and be forced to accept it all.
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What exactly are you so afraid of?

This is little more than fear. You understand that right?

What's your fear?

That you might be gay yourself?

Straight people are not going to disappear just because gay marriage becomes recognized by the Feds and states.

So what's your real and honest problem?

What are you specifically so afraid of?
 
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Bronson said:
Marriage as an institution has specific social and economic purposes.
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And these are what?

Where are they codified?
 
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Dragonfly said:
What exactly are you so afraid of?

This is little more than fear. You understand that right?

What's your fear?

That you might be gay yourself?

Straight people are not going to disappear just because gay marriage becomes recognized by the Feds and states.

So what's your real and honest problem?

What are you specifically so afraid of?
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I fear losing my rights of conscience. It's happening to people everyday under the guise of sexual discrimination. And now that traditional marriage is no longer the mearsure, all practices are free game.
 
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vesper said:
Bravo! and it is the institutions that have made this country so wonderfully great that ALL are now under attack.
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See....and here I thought it was the PEOPLE that made this country great.

Some of whom, funny enough, have been gay.

And who is attacking marriage?

Nobody is saying "straight" marriage has to change. What will change?


Fear is such an irrational emotion.
 
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vesper said:
I fear losing my rights of conscience.
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And how exactly will that happen?

Why would you, or your mind change because two consenting adults get married who are of the same-sex?

Are you truly that weak of a person?
 
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Dragonfly said:
See....and here I thought it was the PEOPLE that made this country great.

Some of whom, funny enough, have been gay.

And who is attacking marriage?

Nobody is saying "straight" marriage has to change. What will change?


Fear is such an irrational emotion.
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See you already have to categorize the different types of marriage. It has already changed and no its more than just emotion it is fact based in reality that people are being charged with discrimination violations because of denying services to gays which their moral conscience in their view of marriage puts them in conflict. But the laws they are a changing telling the one their rights to conscience are moot and that they have to recognize all sexual orientations. So here come the Nambla members, those who practice incest etc. waiting for their "civil rights" to be honored and be allowed to be with the one they love.
 
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Dragonfly said:
Why are you answering my question with a question?

Are you afraid of the response you'll get?
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Well I'm scratching my head as to why you would ask that question

What do you interpret it to be?
 
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winston53660 said:
And these are what?

Where are they codified?
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Do I really have to explain it to you?
 
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Bronson said:
Well I'm scratching my head as to why you would ask that question

What do you interpret it to be?
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Why are you deflecting so much? It's an easy question to answer.
 
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Dragonfly said:
And how exactly will that happen?

Why would you, or your mind change because two consenting adults get married who are of the same-sex?

Are you truly that weak of a person?
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Weak? You know I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and crap a better argument than that. It's not about me being weak but how the LAW has and will continue to erode and be too weak to avoid changes most would never agree to.
 
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vesper said:
Weak? You know I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and crap a better argument than that. It's not about me being weak but how the LAW has and will continue to erode and be too weak to avoid changes most would never agree to.
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That's a complete cop-out to the question.

You are weak and frightened.

It's obvious.

How will two consenting adults getting married ruin your life and/or society overall?

How can anything effect your consciousness unless you allow it to be effected.
 
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vesper said:
So here come the Nambla members, those who practice incest etc. waiting for their "civil rights" to be honored and be allowed to be with the one they love.
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Fear. 100% fear. A powerful and irrational emotion.

Chicken Little called.....it's for you.
 
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Dragonfly said:
That's a complete cop-out to the question.

You are weak and frightened.

It's obvious.

How will two consenting adults getting married ruin your life and/or society overall?

How can anything effect your consciousness unless you allow it to be effected.
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What part of denying me the right of conscience don't you get? The willingness of the court to deny me that right because that federal judge sitting on the bench is a political appointee in the name of sexual discrimination is willing to take my rights away!
The fear is real it is happening to people all over the place but like so many of you aren't interested in the rights of all, just what floats your boat. But some day the line you are not willing to cross will happen and then maybe you will understand the importance of honoring all person's rights to conscience whether you believe with them ideologically or not.
 
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Gaugingcatenate said:
Yeah, and sometimes it is going down the tubes...Look at the various empires of the past...Rome for instance, think it didnt go down the tubes... are you a Nero watching and fiddling :violin as Rome burns?
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You heard it here, folks: same-sex marriage is going to DESTROY AMERICA
 
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Gardener said:
Much like a three year old might try to explain quantum physics, yes.
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Listen to the three year old.
 
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Dragonfly said:
Why are you deflecting so much? It's an easy question to answer.
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Not deflecting at all

If you have a different definition than the Dictionary than feel free to provide it. Otherwise I'm not really sure what you are trying to debate.
 
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Deuce said:
You heard it here, folks: same-sex marriage is going to DESTROY AMERICA
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You didn't hear about the manic riots looting food hoarding gasoline shortages that happened in MA when gay marriage became legal there!
 
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TiredOfLife said:
There's nothing to get. You have your race glasses on and you aren't a fan of rights for homosexuals.
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Or you understand exactly what he was talking about but are of a different opinion because you are a fan of homosexuals.
 
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winston53660 said:
You didn't hear about the manic riots looting food hoarding gasoline shortages that happened in MA when gay marriage became legal there!
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The apocalypse will be fabulous.
 
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