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Making a push to get people to join "Obamacare"

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I have health insurance; we make too much money for the subsidy so we are the subsidizers and encourage people not to sign up :2razz:
 
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At work, I have successfully reduced the number of full time employees by about 1/3, across three stores.
 
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What could possibly go wrong with a system that magically makes 15% of the GDP become funded with nobody being required to spend more than 2% to 9.5% of their AGI in order to do so?
 
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Awww cmons now.....we can trust what they say. After this First year of Big Businesses and Corporations getting all the breaks, plus Congress and all those that were given those waivers ahead of time. Not having to pay in. It will all work out the following year, see. You will all be better for it. Don't you worry Doctors will work things out to keep practicing medicine. You will be able to get cheap medicines. Plus all that extra good dental care. All will be fair and equal. You will luv it and after next year.....you will be shouting you want some more of it. As in..... I like it, I lub it, I want some more of It.
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At work, I have successfully reduced the number of full time employees by about 1/3, across three stores.

Congratulations on putting your bottom line first, I guess? Me, I take care of my employees.
 
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Congratulations on putting your bottom line first, I guess? Me, I take care of my employees.

Not my choice. I follow orders, and there are plenty of people to do as I do, should I refuse. Fact is, I think it's to the companies detriment. We've lost some not so great, high paid employees, I admit, but we've also lost some long time, good employees, too...and replaced them with kids, because they cost less. Naturally, this decision is being made by people who spend zero time in the stores, who don't get to be on the receiving end of customer complaints, see the general dissatisfaction, etc. What I do might be pushing the share prices up a notch or two by freeing up liquidity, ultimately it's helping Costco gain more members. It's actually funny as hell to watch.
 
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Not my choice. I follow orders, and there are plenty of people to do as I do, should I refuse. Fact is, I think it's to the companies detriment. We've lost some not so great, high paid employees, I admit, but we've also lost some long time, good employees, too...and replaced them with kids, because they cost less. Naturally, this decision is being made by people who spend zero time in the stores, who don't get to be on the receiving end of customer complaints, see the general dissatisfaction, etc. What I do might be pushing the share prices up a notch or two by freeing up liquidity, ultimately it's helping Costco gain more members. It's actually funny as hell to watch.

You were told that these moves were motivated by a desire on your company's part to avoid offering insurance coverage to full time employees?
 
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Congratulations on putting your bottom line first, I guess? Me, I take care of my employees.

There are no employees without a bottom line.
 
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You were told that these moves were motivated by a desire on your company's part to avoid offering insurance coverage to full time employees?

I am responsible for profitability. Outside of increasing sales, the only way to increase profitability is to reduce operating costs. Full time employees cost more, they just do...obamacare or not. However, ahca is going to excascerbate this, according to the lawyers employed by corporate brass.
 
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I am responsible for profitability. Outside of increasing sales, the only way to increase profitability is to reduce operating costs. Full time employees cost more, they just do...obamacare or not. However, ahca is going to excascerbate this, according to the lawyers employed by corporate brass.
That's the thing. Full time employees cost more. Always have and always will. Any excuse to reduce those numbers will do. One more problem with having healthcare tied to employment.
 
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I am responsible for profitability. Outside of increasing sales, the only way to increase profitability is to reduce operating costs. Full time employees cost more, they just do...obamacare or not. However, ahca is going to excascerbate this, according to the lawyers employed by corporate brass.

Is your company's official reason for cutting full time employees the desire to avoid ACA penalties?
 
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Having Pelosi threatening to come over to my house might make me consider signing up, just to keep her away!

Now THAT is a very mature and measured comment.
 
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Now THAT is a very mature and measured comment.

You can invite her over to your house if you want, she isn't welcome at mine.

BTW, I'm retired so I don't have to sign up with anyone.
 
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Is your company's official reason for cutting full time employees the desire to avoid ACA penalties?

Of course not, it's to reduce operating costs, by preventing future increases.
 
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That's the thing. Full time employees cost more. Always have and always will. Any excuse to reduce those numbers will do. One more problem with having healthcare tied to employment.

Sorry, but you are (IMHO) completely wrong.

I've been in business since I was 26 (I'm now 70) and a full time, well paid, well treated and well insured employee is worth 10 dissatisfied, struggling, unhappy part timers.

This 29.5 hour bull**** won't last long.
 
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Sorry, but you are (IMHO) completely wrong.

I've been in business since I was 26 (I'm now 70) and a full time, well paid, well treated and well insured employee is worth 10 dissatisfied, struggling, unhappy part timers.

This 29.5 hour bull**** won't last long.

While I agree with what you say, that thinking is rarer today than it was in the past. The move to part time employment began some time ago. It's not new, and I've linked that a few times now. You can find that almost everywhere, and you could long before Obama was elected.
 
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While I agree with what you say, that thinking is rarer today than it was in the past. The move to part time employment began some time ago. It's not new, and I've linked that a few times now. You can find that almost everywhere, and you could long before Obama was elected.

Sure, I'm the first to admit how dated my business skills are. How I managed all those years never misrepresenting my product, never making promises I couldn't keep and never, ever ****ing over my employees was probably due as much to luck as it was to skill.

Well, I view this trend as self-destructive behavior but only time will tell. In the meantime, I'd say that the results so far are the increased levels of welfare we are experiencing. The rich get richer and the government prints up the difference to feed everyone. I'm truly grateful that I got to live in a better time.
 
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Sure, I'm the first to admit how dated my business skills are. How I managed all those years never misrepresenting my product, never making promises I couldn't keep and never, ever ****ing over my employees was probably due as much to luck as it was to skill.

Well, I view this trend as self-destructive behavior but only time will tell. In the meantime, I'd say that the results so far are the increased levels of welfare we are experiencing. The rich get richer and the government prints up the difference to feed everyone. I'm truly grateful that I got to live in a better time.

I do agree it's self destructive. I won't argue that.
 
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Sure, I'm the first to admit how dated my business skills are. How I managed all those years never misrepresenting my product, never making promises I couldn't keep and never, ever ****ing over my employees was probably due as much to luck as it was to skill.

Well, I view this trend as self-destructive behavior but only time will tell. In the meantime, I'd say that the results so far are the increased levels of welfare we are experiencing. The rich get richer and the government prints up the difference to feed everyone. I'm truly grateful that I got to live in a better time.

I have youngish (19 and 22) year old kids and they frankly, are sick of being seen as nothing more than a potential customer; sick of being marketed too. I see them seeking out small business and rejecting the image that advertising tries to sell them on that they then need to go out and buy useless products to achieve. They wat products that work and last instead and respect the quality you get when someone actually gives a **** about what they are selling you. Maybe there is hope.
 
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I have youngish (19 and 22) year old kids and they frankly, are sick of being seen as nothing more than a potential customer; sick of being marketed too. I see them seeking out small business and rejecting the image that advertising tries to sell them on that they then need to go out and buy useless products to achieve. They wat products that work and last instead and respect the quality you get when someone actually gives a **** about what they are selling you. Maybe there is hope.

Assuming they can find employment that exceeds 29 hours a week from an employer that treats them fairly. Otherwise, they won't be able to buy anything at all regardless of quality and motivation.

You'd think that somewhere in the 2500 pages of technobabble, somebody might have thought of this problem.
 
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