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'War-weary' Obama says Syria chemical attack requires response

Moot said:
Too many to list.

Military action started in Iraq sometime between April to June of 2002 and Bush didn't get congressional authorization until October 2002....thats five months after military action had already started. So Bush broke the law but hey, you voted for him so that makes it okay, eh?

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In case if you are unaware, technically we have been at war with Iraq as soon as Saddam Hussein tried to assassinate President G.H. Bush.
Iraq never surrendered during the first Gulf War, only a cease fire agreement was signed and Iraq violated that cease fire agreement over a hundered times just during the Clinton administration. Why do you think President Clinton ordered so many Tomahawk cruise missile attacks against Iraq ? How many times did American and British aircraft attack Iraq during the Clinton administration ? We were still at war with Iraq.

Technically under international law, America is still at war against North Korea. There never was a surrender or a peace treaty signed. Just a cease fire agreement.

BTW: What was happening during the 1980's doesn't fall under the War Powers Act. There was a lot of weird #### happening back then and "Black Ops" don't fall under the War Powers Act or when U.S. military personnel are TAD to CIA or other black ops are consider to be military operations. Only a few in Congress are aware of these operations and they are responsible for oversight.

Some things are best to be left aloan. Some times you see something that doesn't jive, it's best to walk away or you could end up like Col. Sabow.
There are those in government who took an oath and are given a mission and they are so dedicated on accomplishing that mission they just don't ignore the Constitution but will commit murder to accomplish that mission.
 
BmanMcfly said:
How about we stop this stupid childish justification of "he did it first" and just quit accepting this type of criminality from either party?!

Btw, I'm pretty sure there's no statute of limitations on war crimes, and bush has all but admitted to them.

I gotta stop here or I'll start swearing... I'd expect this type of logic from a 6 year old, not grown adults.
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Um, how about....no. If you don't like it then move on. Thats what a mature adult would do.
 
Montecresto said:
You make a truly valid point. It was telling when Kerry was asked why the administration should be trusted when they have been deceitful with Fast and Furious, NSA and Benghazi, and he bowed up and said I'm not going to take this. He was sent by the president to secure congressional approval for another bull**** war but yet he's going to pull a punks tone. He said he wants to talk about civilians being killed in Syria and here you want to talk about Americans being killed. Another US politician with zero credibility, I don't care what his party affiliation is.
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Maybe Kerry will change his mind and be against it after he was for it.
 
APACHERAT said:
In case if you are unaware, technically we have been at war with Iraq as soon as Saddam Hussein tried to assassinate President G.H. Bush.
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Technicallly, we haven't been at war since WW2. lol

Iraq never surrendered during the first Gulf War, only a cease fire agreement was signed and Iraq violated that cease fire agreement over a hundered times just during the Clinton administration. Why do you think President Clinton ordered so many Tomahawk cruise missile attacks against Iraq ? How many times did American and British aircraft attack Iraq during the Clinton administration ? We were still at war with Iraq.
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The attacks were acts of aggression to try and get Saddam to respond in kind so the US and UK would have a pretext to war. Isn't that obvious?

Technically under international law, America is still at war against North Korea. There never was a surrender or a peace treaty signed. Just a cease fire agreement.
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Kinda like the war on terror, eh?


BTW: What was happening during the 1980's doesn't fall under the War Powers Act. There was a lot of weird #### happening back then and "Black Ops" don't fall under the War Powers Act or when U.S. military personnel are TAD to CIA or other black ops are consider to be military operations. Only a few in Congress are aware of these operations and they are responsible for oversight.
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Just because Americans weren't paying attention doesn't mean the rest of the world wasn't. And starting a war in Nicuargua and sending in troops to "advise" death squads constitutes military action.

Some things are best to be left aloan. Some times you see something that doesn't jive, it's best to walk away or you could end up like Col. Sabow.
There are those in government who took an oath and are given a mission and they are so dedicated on accomplishing that mission they just don't ignore the Constitution but will commit murder to accomplish that mission.
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Really, so now you're condoning illegal actions because it doesn't fit your narrative of being the good guys? Okay, you go ahead walk away if it will make you feel better.
 
Moot said:
Um, how about....no. If you don't like it then move on. Thats what a mature adult would do.
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Ok, legally speaking you might have a point on precedence.

But, morally and ethically wrong does not justify more wrong.

So, because r Kelly peed on a girl, I should be allowed to pee on your sister?
 
Moot said:
You are probaby the 10th person to post that video, NP. Newsflash, Syria is in the middle of a civil war.
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well judging by you lefties who think we should help the very people who our murdering people....:confused:
 
Navy Pride said:
Is this really the side Obama wants us on in Syria?:confused:

VERY BRUTAL VIDEO (this may be too much for you and you may not want to watch): THE REBELS EXECUTING SYRIAN SOLDIERS LAST SPRING / NYT HEADLINE: "Brutality of Syrian Rebels Posing Dilemma in West" | Gretawire
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I heard about this video today.

Obama sided with the same types during the Arab Spring in Egypt and in Libya.

Defiantly a war crime was caught on video. No question who committed this crime, the same side Obama is backing.

If Obama's side wins and Assad is removed from power we can expect Assad being repeatedly sodomized in the bung hole before he's executed and while western reporters are covering the celebration on the streets in Damascus, you can expect a few western female reporters being gang raped on the streets.
 
Navy Pride said:
well judging by you lefties who think we should help the very people who our murdering people....:confused:
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No, worse than that... They are supporting the same terrorists that perpetrated 9-11.
 
BmanMcfly said:
Ok, legally speaking you might have a point on precedence.

But, morally and ethically wrong does not justify more wrong.

So, because r Kelly peed on a girl, I should be allowed to pee on your sister?
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Yes indeed, you are clearly full of morals aren't you? :roll:
 
Moot said:
Yes indeed, you are clearly full of morals aren't you? :roll:
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Yes I am, but I was making a point about how your logic can be applied.
 
BmanMcfly said:
No, worse than that... They are supporting the same terrorists that perpetrated 9-11.
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No worse than that. These people are responsible for every bad thing that has happened in the last 20 years, they are Obama's "chosen fatwa". We must regard this with the utmost caution and respect for the night of a thousand knives of Muslim justice is about to steal babies from every American crib this side of the Atlantic.

GOD HELP US ALL
 
Navy Pride said:
well judging by you lefties who think we should help the very people who our murdering people....:confused:
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Really, and here I thought it was you righties who think murdering our people is a natural right. :confused:
 
BmanMcfly said:
Yes I am, but I was making a point about how your logic can be applied.
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Well, you failed. All you did was make yourself look like a pervert. ew.
 
Moot said:
Well, you failed. All you did was make yourself look like a pervert. ew.
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If that's so terrible then how is it ok for Obama to follow bad precedent?
 
BmanMcfly said:
If that's so terrible then how is it ok for Obama to follow bad precedent?
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Maybe your wife appreciates your precedent but it has no relevance to the topic.
 
Moot said:
Maybe your wife appreciates your precedent but it has no relevance to the topic.
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Actually she gave the analogy, and she found them both equally disgusting.
 
No peeing on people, m'kay?
 
Moot said:
Yeah, apparently it might set an international precedent. lol
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Exactly...

Assad should say that Obama isn't giving his people enough job opportunities, as a human rights violation and should seek regime change in the US.
 
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