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Jimmy Carter calls for Syria peace summit[W:33]

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Montecresto said:
True, honest dependable leader, ha, good luck with that one!
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I have the feeling you thought Bush43 wasn't honest or dependable. If so...

What would you have done after 911? Saddam had 12-years of waving at America with his middle finger, kicked out inspectors, was making money selling oil illegally, had a fine tuned hatred for America, and would have rebuilt his weapons program.

With all the kooks watching, licking their chops wondering if Bush43 was as lame as Felonious Bill Clinton, what would you have done when evidence back to the Clinton years indicated he still had WMD?

Bush43 was an honest guy; if anything it was that perception that helped get himself elected... especially after the scandal-a-month Felonious Bill & Hillary Clinton administration.

Here's to hoping we get someone who is honest... you can't expect it from the left because they never tell us the truth about their schemes. Instead we have to pass trillion dollar bills to learn what's inside. They're The Cracker Jack Party... SURPRISE! I'm not post-partisan! SURPRISE! I'm not a uniter! SURPRISE! There were no shovel ready jobs, but except to shovel money to our supporters! SURPRISE... suckers.
 
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According to an independent commission of inquiry set up by the government of the Netherlands, UN resolution 1441 "cannot reasonably be interpreted as authorising individual member states to use military force to compel Iraq to comply with the Security Council's resolutions."[24][25]


On the day of the vote the US ambassador to the UN, John Negroponte, assured the Security Council that there were no "hidden triggers" with respect to the use of force, and that in the event of a "further breach" by Iraq, resolution 1441 would require that "the matter will return to the Council for discussions as required in paragraph 12

At the same meeting, UK Permanent Representative Sir Jeremy Greenstock KCMG used many of the same words. "If there is a further Iraqi breach of its disarmament obligations, the matter will return to the Council for discussion as required in Operational Paragraph 12."[22]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_the_Iraq_War
 
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Expressing regret that diplomacy had failed to resolve the question of Iraq’s disarmament, speakers emphasized that the current war, carried out without Council authorization, was a violation of international law and the United Nations Charter. Many stressed they could not understand how the Council could remain silent in the face of the aggression by two of its permanent members against another United Nations Member State.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2003/sc7705.doc.htm
 
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zimmer said:
I have the feeling you thought Bush43 wasn't honest or dependable. If so...

What would you have done after 911? Saddam had 12-years of waving at America with his middle finger, kicked out inspectors, was making money selling oil illegally, had a fine tuned hatred for America, and would have rebuilt his weapons program.

With all the kooks watching, licking their chops wondering if Bush43 was as lame as Felonious Bill Clinton, what would you have done when evidence back to the Clinton years indicated he still had WMD?

Bush43 was an honest guy; if anything it was that perception that helped get himself elected... especially after the scandal-a-month Felonious Bill & Hillary Clinton administration.

Here's to hoping we get someone who is honest... you can't expect it from the left because they never tell us the truth about their schemes. Instead we have to pass trillion dollar bills to learn what's inside. They're The Cracker Jack Party... SURPRISE! I'm not post-partisan! SURPRISE! I'm not a uniter! SURPRISE! There were no shovel ready jobs, but except to shovel money to our supporters! SURPRISE... suckers.
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George Bush has NO credibility.
 
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Grant said:
Not with you, perhaps, but he certainly does with others.
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Yes. I know that to be true.
 
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Montecresto said:
George Bush has NO credibility.
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Interesting. How about a clarification?

I liked Bush43 because the guy was honest. His attempt to get along with the likes of Dead Kennedy drove me nuts, as did his spending on socialist programs, and the bailout... but his unapologetic focus on defending the nation was honorable.

I'm happy he was running the show instead of The Marx Brothers... Algore, Kerry, Edwards or Obama.
 
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That horse has been beat to death. Ill assume your being facetious. And I don't want to derail the pro Jimmy Carter thread on George W. Bush. But the clarification came in posts 77&78.
 
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Montecresto said:
Everybody has an opinion.
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Of course they do. But he did such a horrible job when he had the chance that he should just keep his pie hole shut and get on with his life. Carter was as useless as nipples on a bull.
 
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There's been times when I wished my bulls had nipples. I understood your opinion the first time.
 
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ChezC3 said:
Jimmy Carter needs to fade off into the sunset, the man is a worse attention whore than Clinton...
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Which Clinton? I think the media seeks out Jimmy to get his two cents. He just needs to reflect on his own failed presidency and then tell the media he has no opinion and to leave him alone. And shame on the media for even bothering the guy.

Most people probably don't remember Carter. He was my first Commander in Chief. He and Zbignew decided the Shah of Iran was a bad person; no doubt because he killed or imprisoned a few dozen of his detractors. They backed Khomeini and expected him to do a better job at human rights than the Shah did; but within months of his return to Iran from exile he murdered 100,000 of his enemies. Then of course when the kidnapping of Americans happened, Carter stumbled and bumbled his way through that for a year and a half and never did get them released. It took the absolute fear of Ron Reagan for Iran to let our people go. And of course we can call that a one-time incident and look at his other failures; like lack of gasoline and 10 hour lines to gas stations, odd-even license plate days for even being allowed to buy gas, 20%+ mortgage rates for even prime borrowers, letting USSR march into Afghanistan, etc. And the one that bothered me as much as the others - Jimmy Carter, as a favor to Coca-Cola for funding his Gubernatorial and Presidential elections put Coca-Cola puppets in his cabinet and helped push through an interim price support program where people who processed sweeteners (Read: Coca-Cola) were paid an amount of money by US Government (read: taxpayers) so that the sweetener Coca-Cola bought and processed was almost free. The infamous "coca cola law" stayed in effect through 1979; and of course went away when Ron Reagan and the GOP took over the executive branch. With that much lower cost of manufacturing, Coca-Cola greatly benefited from Jimmy introducing TCCC to our communist enemies.

I know none of our POTUS'es are perfect, but this guy really rubbed me the wrong way with his abstract failures and his anti-Semitic views.
 
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Snappo said:
Which Clinton? I think the media seeks out Jimmy to get his two cents. He just needs to reflect on his own failed presidency and then tell the media he has no opinion and to leave him alone. And shame on the media for even bothering the guy.

Most people probably don't remember Carter. He was my first Commander in Chief. He and Zbignew decided the Shah of Iran was a bad person; no doubt because he killed or imprisoned a few dozen of his detractors. They backed Khomeini and expected him to do a better job at human rights than the Shah did; but within months of his return to Iran from exile he murdered 100,000 of his enemies. Then of course when the kidnapping of Americans happened, Carter stumbled and bumbled his way through that for a year and a half and never did get them released. It took the absolute fear of Ron Reagan for Iran to let our people go. And of course we can call that a one-time incident and look at his other failures; like lack of gasoline and 10 hour lines to gas stations, odd-even license plate days for even being allowed to buy gas, 20%+ mortgage rates for even prime borrowers, letting USSR march into Afghanistan, etc. And the one that bothered me as much as the others - Jimmy Carter, as a favor to Coca-Cola for funding his Gubernatorial and Presidential elections put Coca-Cola puppets in his cabinet and helped push through an interim price support program where people who processed sweeteners (Read: Coca-Cola) were paid an amount of money by US Government (read: taxpayers) so that the sweetener Coca-Cola bought and processed was almost free. The infamous "coca cola law" stayed in effect through 1979; and of course went away when Ron Reagan and the GOP took over the executive branch. With that much lower cost of manufacturing, Coca-Cola greatly benefited from Jimmy introducing TCCC to our communist enemies.

I know none of our POTUS'es are perfect, but this guy really rubbed me the wrong way with his abstract failures and his anti-Semitic views.
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Nobody expects perfection in a political candidate, but think of how refreshing it would be to have an actually principled and honest man holding the highest office in the land? :2razz:
 
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Henry David said:
Nobody expects perfection in a political candidate, but think of how refreshing it would be to have an actually principled and honest man holding the highest office in the land? :2razz:
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I totally agree Henry. I have some tongue-in-cheek AND some sane ideas for fixing that.

Tongue-in-cheek humor idea. We all know that GOP and DNC want to be in power. Whoever is on the outside looking in has a huge motivation to beat the person in power. If we had a third choice instead of DNC and GOP when we show up at the polling booth and the choice was "These retards suck - give me fresh choices" that could change the game. If you pull choice #3, then it puts the present party in power for another year and the competitor gets a year to find a better choice. The party on the outside doesn't want to wait another year for America to chose (call it a punishment against the outside choice), so up front they will be forced to come up with better candidates.

Serious idea: I think the biggest problem is that when the average American turns on the TV during campaign season to watch the debates or political commercials, all they see is GOP and DNC. The reason is clear - GOP and DNC have all that money from the Super PAC's etc. If every campaign dollar was put in a big kitty and had to be equally spent among all approved parties; each party would have equal air time, equal newspaper time, equal face time at those debates. GOP and DNC each paid over a billion dollars for us to decide between McSame & Juggs versus Obama Bin Biden; and then I think closer to two billion for us to decide between Obama Bin Biden versus Kolob Romney and Lyin' Ryan. I really think that the best choice was actually Governor Gary Johnson and Judge Jim Gray, but that America never really got to know these two guys or their platform. And there are other platforms out there too that are even less known: Green Party, Constitution Party, etc. - nobody knows about those parties when they go to pick the lever.
 
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EdwinWillers said:
"Ceremony" because the ninny-poo has already broadcast what he's going to do, so by the time he musters whatever it is he musters to do other than play golf, whatever targets his missiles hit will have been long abandoned. Of course, true to form he'll take credit for "showing them who's boss" while the rest of the world scratches their head in wonder how one man that ignorant and incompetent could ever have been voted into the most powerful office in the worl.

This is not the time to be attacking anything, least of all Syria, and especially with this yahoo in the White House.
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Those thoughts crossed my mind as well. I also questioned if Obama might be playing his own game on Syria.

I mean, ya gotta admit, like Obama or not, he's one terrorist killin' summabitch.

It will be interesting to watch it play out.
 
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Captain America said:
I mean, ya gotta admit, like Obama or not, he's one terrorist killin' summabitch.
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Obama surely is hard core. And not just him. All of his folks like Senator Clinton, Kerry, etc. He surrounds himself with people that don't take sh**t off terrorists. OBL - toast. Gadaffi - toast. Perhaps soon: Assad - toast? Is it possible that Obama knows that Iran or Syria will attack Israel, thereby giving him the tools needed to get Western agreement and allowing a large effort against Assad by North America and Western Europe? Are large military contractors lobbying DNC and GOP to get another war going for major profit?
 
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Snappo said:
This is one of the most racist drawings I have ever seen. Obama given monkey ears and monkey feet, and squatting like a monkey does when it goes to the bathroom. This post infers that blacks are not human, but are monkeys. I am going to report this post to the moderators.
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Agree that it's certainly offensive. But why not leave it up and expose the person who posted it? It's like flag saying, "look at me! I'm an idiot!"
 
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Snappo said:
Obama surely is hard core. And not just him. All of his folks like Senator Clinton, Kerry, etc. He surrounds himself with people that don't take sh**t off terrorists. OBL - toast. Gadaffi - toast. Perhaps soon: Assad - toast? Is it possible that Obama knows that Iran or Syria will attack Israel, thereby giving him the tools needed to get Western agreement and allowing a large effort against Assad by North America and Western Europe? Are large military contractors lobbying DNC and GOP to get another war going for major profit?
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Well, far be it from me to get the thread sent to the conspiracy section, but I do think there's more to this than meets the eye. Especially the eye of someone with nothing better to do than waste time posting insignificant thoughts and opinions on an internet website such as this, myself included.

It just doesn't add up. Obama knows American's aren't in to bombing Syria. He's all bad-ass, then pragmatic, then plays bad cop and allows the congress to play good cop. I think it's one big basketball strategy. I don't believe anything the media is selling. We are all being played.

I am interested to see how it plays out.
 
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Captain America said:
Those thoughts crossed my mind as well. I also questioned if Obama might be playing his own game on Syria.

I mean, ya gotta admit, like Obama or not, he's one terrorist killin' summabitch.
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...when he's not playing spades anyway.
 
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zimmer said:
I've been commenting on Obama's lack of judgment. If you recall, he claimed superior skills in this dept.

Obama has adopted a lunacy called "Lead from Behind", which has not endeared us to anyone.

He, in all his wisdom laid down a Red Line which had been crossed before the latest WMD attack, and has now painted him in a corner. He's screwed himself either way. Now that takes talent won't you admit? Of course you won't.

In Syria, he failed to support and help shape the rebel faction. Now it's full of terrorist types. So, should Syria fall, those WMD could fall into the hands of terrorists.

Our enemies do not fear us, and our allies do not support us. It's pretty tough to do worse, and it is a similar scenario Bush inherited from Felonious Bill Clinton.

Whether it is Syria, Libya (& Benghazi) or Egypt, I do believe Obama is proving himself to be quite the strike out king (domestically/economically and with regards to foreign policy). He is a little boy in a mans world.

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Gotcha... you have no opinion on the topic of what to do in Syria other than how you hate Obama and hate Carter.
 
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poweRob said:
Gotcha... you have no opinion on the topic of what to do in Syria other than how you hate Obama and hate Carter.
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Hate??? That's way over the top.
 
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SBu said:
Agree that it's certainly offensive. But why not leave it up and expose the person who posted it? It's like flag saying, "look at me! I'm an idiot!"
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It was just as offensive when they did the same cartoon with the face of Bush but that didn't seem to matter. It was also not called 'racist'.
 
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Grant said:
It was just as offensive when they did the same cartoon with the face of Bush but that didn't seem to matter. It was also not called 'racist'.
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I get your argument, but I'm sure you know the history of this kind of caricature and race. Just because you have an argument to do something, doesn't mean you should. It's not very classy.
 
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SBu said:
I get your argument, but I'm sure you know the history of this kind of caricature and race. Just because you have an argument to do something, doesn't mean you should. It's not very classy.
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Oh i Agree. It really wasn't funny, didn't make a point, and i wasn't comfortable looking at it. But that's what freedom of expression is all about and so would never complain.
 
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