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i take it you disagree wholeheartedly with the concept of implied powers.
How would you get that from my post?
i take it you disagree wholeheartedly with the concept of implied powers.
going to disagree with you , governments primary duty is the protection of the people [meaning rights], as sited in the DOI, and by the father of the Constitution, James Madison.
James Madison-- "if men were angels no government would be necessary"--- but because men are not angels .......we have government.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
Is your position that unless the Constitution explicitly states that Congress can enact a specific kind of law, that it can't? I didn't see anything in the Constitution about enacting a law that says school buses must stop at railroad tracks, like in the Schoolhouse Rock video. Is that unconstitutional? Was the creation of a minimum wage itself unconstitutional?
Now you are getting more specific. You said protect law abiding citizens before, nothing about rights. Note, madison is implying that we don't want government, it is a bad thing, and we want as little government as possible.
As the DOI says, our rights don't come from government, they are God given. And there is no right to someone else's property, by definition that is no longer a right. So no, the government is not protecting rights when it is forcing someone to fork over money to someone else, it is taking rights.
There's been a lot of talk about strikes in the fast food industry. Who among you can blame them? They're only getting paid minimum wage? You call that some standard of living? Can anyone here honestly say the standard of living for the average employee of the fast food industry?
McDonalds makes a fortune in sales every day, but it treats its workers like lint. Would it go bankrupt over paying each employee, say, 10 bucks an hour? Do those employees deserve that money. Well they worked for it so they're entitled to it. It's their money, not McDonalds. McDonalds makes so much money it could be considered its own economy? Where did you get that fact?
Its not just McDonalds, whether you work and Taco Bell or Arbys, you can expect your wages to be VERY low. Will the wages go on strike if the minimum wage isn't rise? A rise man once said.
Personally I don't even blame for these workers for going on strike because 7 bucks is too low for minimum wage because there's lots of mandatory payments these days, like smartphone payments. Not only do people have bills, like utilities, electricity, water, vehicle, insurance, but there's also, like nice threads and looking good.
Finally there's the objectification issue because let's face it Wendys has not had a good track record lately when in comes to its portrayal of men lately. GUTS Headquarters' Jeffery Tolman found this interesting bit of concept art from Wendy's Cheeseburger Pretzel Burger commercial and posted it on Wendy's Facebook page. Take a look at this side by side comparison:
http://oi44.tinypic.com/t857vs.jpg
In the finished commercial, the actress playing Wendy is sitting on some sort of bean bag, but in the original conception, she is sitting on the back of a man, whose on his hands and knees. So men are suppose to be furniture?
Now I see fast food workers are striking.
No, I don't think there is anything in there about school buses. But it does say they can make laws. You asked if they had power to make laws, and hot dang, they do! We don't really need the feds to make minimum wage laws, the states can do that.
You asked where in the Constitution does it give Congress the right to pass laws addressing fairness (which I interpret broadly to mean laws that favor some people over others). Now you say they can pass laws but we don't need them to. So I guess I don't really understand your position. Do you simply mean to invoke States' Rights over these issues? States certainly can raise their minimum wages above the federal level, but I guess that's not what you favor.
Nobody here has said they can not pass minimum wage laws, but do we need them to? States can take care of that. If the people of Alabama want a $6 minimum and the people of Florida want a $10 minimum, that's fine.
Let's not go skipping ahead. What do you mean by "fairness"? We all know about equal rights, I think everyone agrees that we all have the same rights. But that is not "fairness". Nobody here has said they can not pass minimum wage laws, but do we need them to? States can take care of that. If the people of Alabama want a $6 minimum and the people of Florida want a $10 minimum, that's fine.
Reagan wanted to give blacks a different minimum wage than whites. If Alabama made minimum wage for blacks $0.50 an hour, what would your position be? Go to the 34 minute, 18 second mark and start from there. GOP - one wage for whites and much lower wage for blacks.
True, but it would take a very big union to accommodate the vast majority of fast food workers wanting to strike, which I imagine is close to a million. To get that many people to agree on a wage or benefit they're seeking would be, difficult to say the least.these striking workers are being led to slaughter by their handlers
that striking worker can be replaced the same day (s)he strikes. just substitute another body who wants a low paying job
now, instead of a low paying job the striker has a no paying termination paper
how did (s)he help him/herself with that strike?
i am very sympathetic to those who feel the need to do something to increase their wages. anyone who works 40 hours a week should earn a sustainable wage
but to strike without benefit of a unionized bargaining unit is just ignorant foolishness
organize the bargaining unit first, THEN strike
one should always know where they stand before taking a stand
these folks are now in quicksand
Reagan wanted to give blacks a different minimum wage than whites. If Alabama made minimum wage for blacks $0.50 an hour, what would your position be? Go to the 34 minute, 18 second mark and start from there. GOP - one wage for whites and much lower wage for blacks.
Reagan wanted to give blacks a different minimum wage than whites. If Alabama made minimum wage for blacks $0.50 an hour, what would your position be? Go to the 34 minute, 18 second mark and start from there. GOP - one wage for whites and much lower wage for blacks.
Is your position that unless the Constitution explicitly states that Congress can enact a specific kind of law, that it can't? I didn't see anything in the Constitution about enacting a law that says school buses must stop at railroad tracks, like in the Schoolhouse Rock video. Is that unconstitutional? Was the creation of a minimum wage itself unconstitutional?
the minimum wage is unconstitutional, government has no authority to dictate to a person or business what they must pay....nothing in the constitution which places limits on people or business, our constitution was written for governments only.
Another nonsense post from the nonsense factory. What you describe was not at all what RWR meant, and everyone knew it at the time. A "sub-minimum" wage to promote employment of young people and the inner city unemployed is an idea advanced many times over the years by both left and right. Your framing of the issue is dishonest.eace
I just wanted to see if we both agreed that Congress could pass laws as they saw fit, not whether they should. As for if they should, I've made my arguments elsewhere in this thread.
Indeed, cost of living in different states is radically different. But surely you don't mean Alabama should set the minimum wage at lower than the federal minimum wage, right? That would involve a dirty little thing called nullification that usually doesn't end well for the State. I assume you just mean that the Federal government would ideally not have set one, letting Alabama set it as low as they wanted, right?
Do those employees deserve that money. Well they worked for it so they're entitled to it. It's their money, not McDonalds. McDonalds makes so much money it could be considered its own economy? Where did you get that fact?
Personally I don't even blame for these workers for going on strike because 7 bucks is too low for minimum wage because there's lots of mandatory payments these days, like smartphone payments. Not only do people have bills, like utilities, electricity, water, vehicle, insurance, but there's also, like nice threads and looking good.
All of this fighting over jobs that were designed to introduce our nations young to the working world, being taken by adults with families that should be out there working in other jobs designed for them that are now non existent. Doesn't that big picture alone tell liberals that their policies are a failure?
Nobody has really brought that up yet, but it's hard to disagree. It does seem like a power reserved for the states.
It's a different minimum wage for young people, not black people.
Wrong. Listen again. He said the young people were black and he wanted to give a lower wage to blacks so they would have a better shot at jobs.
Another nonsense post from the nonsense factory.