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89 Year Old WWII Veteran Beaten and Left for Dead Dies

Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.

ttwtt78640 said:
Then we can agree that poverty alone is not the issue? Is it not, in fact, easier to commit crime when nobody is likely to be there to witness it?

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Not when you don't gain anything with committing that crime. That is why you don't see high crime rates, well crime rates against others in rural settings. There is little to nothing to be gained by the equal poverty in the area.
 
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Nynaeve Meara said:
Not when you don't gain anything with committing that crime. That is why you don't see high crime rates, well crime rates against others in rural settings. There is little to nothing to be gained by the equal poverty in the area.
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Nonsense, folks have been killed for a pair of shoes or pocket change and recently (we are told) just out of "boredom". Don't give me that BS line that the poor do not prey upon the poor, that is a huge amount of the crime now, as even you have pointed out.

Trying to make point out that the rural poor and the city poor are "different" demands that the difference be examined and explained - try to figure it out and get back to us. Using your "logic" we could largely fix U.S. crime by simply relocating the criminal morons from the urban ghettos to the countryside.
 
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Nynaeve Meara said:
Not when you don't gain anything with committing that crime. That is why you don't see high crime rates, well crime rates against others in rural settings. There is little to nothing to be gained by the equal poverty in the area.
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It seems you haven't visited many 'rural settings'. Not only do they have different incomes, many of the people living there are very wealthy.
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
Nonsense, folks have been killed for a pair of shoes or pocket change and recently (we are told) just out of "boredom". Don't give me that BS line that the poor do not prey upon the poor, that is a huge amount of the crime now, as even you have pointed out.

Trying to make point out that the rural poor and the city poor are "different" demands that the difference be examined and explained - try to figure it out and get back to us. Using your "logic" we could largely fix U.S. crime by simply relocating the criminal morons from the urban ghettos to the countryside.
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That would work quite well really. It'd be interesting to try that experiment.
Grant said:
It seems you haven't visited many 'rural settings'. Not only do they have different incomes, many of the people living there are very wealthy.
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I grew up in a rural setting, the wealthy are no where near the wealthy of a city with very few exceptions.

You could be considered wealthy in a rural setting making 50K/yr when your neighbors barely make 19K.
 
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Grant said:
It seems you haven't visited many 'rural settings'. Not only do they have different incomes, many of the people living there are very wealthy.
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I think that one is very young with little real life experience and a wealth of idealism.....Under 30 is my guess. Maybe younger.
 
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Nynaeve Meara said:
That would work quite well really. It'd be interesting to try that experiment.

I grew up in a rural setting, the wealthy are no where near the wealthy of a city with very few exceptions.

You could be considered wealthy in a rural setting making 50K/yr when your neighbors barely make 19K.
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That obviously was not here in Texas where a modest ranch sells for $3,000,000 (and up).

You could fill several semi trailers with the contents; everything from art and antiques to luxury vehicles and ranch equipment.

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What does being a WWII vet have to do with anything? Sounds like an attempt to stir up emotion.
 
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Nynaeve Meara said:
I grew up in a rural setting, the wealthy are no where near the wealthy of a city with very few exceptions.

You could be considered wealthy in a rural setting making 50K/yr when your neighbors barely make 19K.
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Where was that rural setting? 'Urban ghettos' are also in cities.
 
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Nynaeve Meara said:
Not when you don't gain anything with committing that crime. That is why you don't see high crime rates, well crime rates against others in rural settings. There is little to nothing to be gained by the equal poverty in the area.
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I have lived in a few rural areas in different countries and most of the people are well off to rich...
 
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Nynaeve Meara said:
That would work quite well really. It'd be interesting to try that experiment.

I grew up in a rural setting, the wealthy are no where near the wealthy of a city with very few exceptions.

You could be considered wealthy in a rural setting making 50K/yr when your neighbors barely make 19K.
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Most people in my rural setting are making 100k + easy... Up in Napa and in West Sonoma County there were tons of millionaires. Saying rural isn't accurate and your experience seems limited.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
What does being a WWII vet have to do with anything? Sounds like an attempt to stir up emotion.
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Right. Otherwise it would just be the case of another 89 year old man beaten up by teenagers, in which case we could just shrug our collective shoulders and move along. And of course we should never try to stir up emotions over an old man being beaten to death.
 
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P. Kersey said:
I think that one is very young with little real life experience and a wealth of idealism.....Under 30 is my guess. Maybe younger.
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I like idealism though. Listening to it, thinking about it, and then crushing it.
 
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Grant said:
Right. Otherwise it would just be the case of another 89 year old man beaten up by teenagers, in which case we could just shrug our collective shoulders and move along. And of course we should never try to stir up emotions over an old man being beaten to death.
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Sounds like the emotional aspect really upset you and how is society not just shrugging its shoulders in this case? The last sentence is just disrespectful as if I am dismissing the beating of a person... get a grip.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
Sounds like the emotional aspect really upset you and how is society not just shrugging its shoulders in this case? The last sentence is just disrespectful as if I am dismissing the beating of a person... get a grip.
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Then perhaps i misunderstood your comment of
What does being a WWII vet have to do with anything? Sounds like an attempt to stir up emotion.
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They also mentioned that he was a mechanic, a good friend to many, was very generous, and liked to play pool,
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
That obviously was not here in Texas where a modest ranch sells for $3,000,000 (and up).

You could fill several semi trailers with the contents; everything from art and antiques to luxury vehicles and ranch equipment.

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Thanks for proving my point. I wouldn't call Texas very rural, I'm sure there are some parts that are similar but nothing quite like the North Midwest for it.

Grant said:
Where was that rural setting? 'Urban ghettos' are also in cities.
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It was in South Dakota, where most rural families are poor.

Grant said:
I like idealism though. Listening to it, thinking about it, and then crushing it.
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I do find it fascinating how you think "crushing" someone can be accomplished online. You are assuming things about other people you don't know for sure. I'd be careful taking likes from someone who legitimately things minorities are more violent with some magical wand of his.
 
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Grant said:
Then perhaps i misunderstood your comment of

They also mentioned that he was a mechanic, a good friend to many, was very generous, and liked to play pool,
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The bold is what is important. Being a WWII vet has nothing to do with a senseless and cruel act of killing a person. Elderly is valid... old, but him being a vet is no more important than when any older person is attacked and killed unless he was killed for being a vet, that is.
 
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P. Kersey said:
You decide WHY minorities and particularly negroes commit more crime. Make up any reason you want...but the fact remains that they do. I merely pointed out the facts...The FBI isn't lying
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So you're just putting out some facts because, hey why not? No political agenda from you, you just thought you'd point this out.

I was born on a day, but it wasn't yesterday.
 
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Nynaeve Meara said:
It was in South Dakota, where most rural families are poor.
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Yes. I've been through there and you're quite right. But as has been said, that doesn't apply to all rural settings.
I do find it fascinating how you think "crushing" someone can be accomplished online. You are assuming things about other people you don't know for sure. I'd be careful taking likes from someone who legitimately things minorities are more violent with some magical wand of his.
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I was making a silly joke and thought that would be obvious. I didn't intend to cause any real offense. I have no idea what you mean about minorities and magic wands.
 
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Nynaeve Meara said:
Thanks for proving my point. I wouldn't call Texas very rural, I'm sure there are some parts that are similar but nothing quite like the North Midwest for it.


It was in South Dakota, where most rural families are poor.



I do find it fascinating how you think "crushing" someone can be accomplished online. You are assuming things about other people you don't know for sure. I'd be careful taking likes from someone who legitimately things minorities are more violent with some magical wand of his.
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You still have not managed to explain the difference in urban verses rural area crime.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
The bold is what is important. Being a WWII vet has nothing to do with a senseless and cruel act of killing a person. Elderly is valid... old, but him being a vet is no more important than when any older person is attacked and killed unless he was killed for being a vet, that is.
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The public may like to know things about the man, including the fact that he was a WWII vet who had been wounded while fighting for his country. That information should not cause any emotional problems.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
The bold is what is important. Being a WWII vet has nothing to do with a senseless and cruel act of killing a person. Elderly is valid... old, but him being a vet is no more important than when any older person is attacked and killed unless he was killed for being a vet, that is.
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He selflessly fought to protect our freedom and to help people in other countries to be free...He fought for america so he could live in peace and not be a victim of lawless, feral, subhuman savages.

He fought to preserve a country that he could live in and go about his business without fear..

It's the contrast of what happened to a man who bravely defended our (former) way of life. Not JUST the fact that he was a veteran.
He didn't just talk the talk. He walked the walk.
 
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rocket88 said:
So you're just putting out some facts because, hey why not? No political agenda from you, you just thought you'd point this out.

I was born on a day, but it wasn't yesterday.
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Negroes commit OVER HALF of ALL violent crime in america despite only making up 13% of the population. That is a fact. I've proven it in page after page with FBI and Justice Dept. statistics...It doesn't matter whether you accept it or not. Everyone knows it is true.
You keep trying to deflect and dodge the facts and randomly assign motives to me that are obviously fantasy so you can avoid admitting the truth. It isn't working.
 
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Delbert Belton in Washington, Christopher Lane in Oklahoma, and David Santucci in Memphis all have something in common. All three white men were killed by young black men. And all three IMO where revenge for Travon Martin also all three were hate crimes, just my opinion based on the conclusion I have reached after reading the facts in these cases. The story of David Santucci is disturbing because the police for some reason are attempting a cover up. Read about it at the link below.

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rocket88 said:
So you're just putting out some facts because, hey why not? No political agenda from you, you just thought you'd point this out.

I was born on a day, but it wasn't yesterday.
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Don't hesitate to say what his political agenda might be. If you feel there is one, let's hear it.
 
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