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89 Year Old WWII Veteran Beaten and Left for Dead Dies
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
(Sigh).
A lot things. Slavery, Jim Crow and separate-but-unequal certainly had their part.
BUT.... in the 1960s and 70s we got the civil rights act and all kinds of EOE/AA and college-help programs aimed at helping the black community lift itself out of poverty and join the nation at large in prosperity and lawfulness.
That was around 50 years ago.... and racism really has abated to a HUGE degree since then, and the glass ceiling shattered long ago.
The opportunities are there. Companies are desperate for qualified blacks to promote to higher positions, because they don't want to get dinged for having a too-white executive class or suffer bad PR accusations of racism.
Those who seize those opportunities and work them to their utmost DO succeed, for the most part. Clarence Thomas, Barry Obama, Alan Keyes, Herman Cain, Oprah, Spike Lee, Tyler Perry... hell I posted a list of black business owners and executives in SC not long ago... there's a LOT of blacks making a prosperous way for themselves in the modern world.
Unfortunately, there's still far too many left behind in the culture-of-poverty... and at this point I don't think Whitey can be to blame anymore. The opportunities are there.... they are just not being taken.
This is why I say the answer is going to have to come from within, as a cultural revitalization.
(Sigh).
A lot things. Slavery, Jim Crow and separate-but-unequal certainly had their part.
BUT.... in the 1960s and 70s we got the civil rights act and all kinds of EOE/AA and college-help programs aimed at helping the black community lift itself out of poverty and join the nation at large in prosperity and lawfulness.
That was around 50 years ago.... and racism really has abated to a HUGE degree since then, and the glass ceiling shattered long ago.
The opportunities are there. Companies are desperate for qualified blacks to promote to higher positions, because they don't want to get dinged for having a too-white executive class or suffer bad PR accusations of racism.
Those who seize those opportunities and work them to their utmost DO succeed, for the most part. Clarence Thomas, Barry Obama, Alan Keyes, Herman Cain, Oprah, Spike Lee, Tyler Perry... hell I posted a list of black business owners and executives in SC not long ago... there's a LOT of blacks making a prosperous way for themselves in the modern world.
Unfortunately, there's still far too many left behind in the culture-of-poverty... and at this point I don't think Whitey can be to blame anymore. The opportunities are there.... they are just not being taken.
This is why I say the answer is going to have to come from within, as a cultural revitalization.
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
There are more than twice the poor black/latino people than white per capita.
I don't get why its so hard to understand this.
No I'm not kidding you but again you aren't using per capita right just like the guy above me.
There are more than twice the poor black/latino people than white per capita.
I don't get why its so hard to understand this.
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
I agree that the lack of strong and positive male role model can leave a crucial hole in a child's development... especially a boy. No doubt this is a significant factor.
Welfare actually plays into this too... a woman can typically get more money out of the system if she isn't officially and legally married. Absent marriage, it is a lot easier for the man to just walk away when things get difficult.
I agree that the lack of strong and positive male role model can leave a crucial hole in a child's development... especially a boy. No doubt this is a significant factor.
Welfare actually plays into this too... a woman can typically get more money out of the system if she isn't officially and legally married. Absent marriage, it is a lot easier for the man to just walk away when things get difficult.
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
That kind of transformation needs cooperation between blacks and whites, plus the rest of society.
That kind of transformation needs cooperation between blacks and whites, plus the rest of society.
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Exactly what more do you think whites should do? We already have EOE/AA, all kinds of college funds and grants and special loans, all kinds of programs and spending aimed at helping revitalize and de-thuggify inner city neighborhoods... I live in South Carolina and every day I see white grandparents in their 60s and 70s playing with their mixed-race grandchildren and nobody else batting an eye over it, so I am disinclined to think widespread white racism is still a causal agent... so exactly WTF else can whites do? The opportunities are there... grab them and climb the ladder. :shrug:
Exactly what more do you think whites should do? We already have EOE/AA, all kinds of college funds and grants and special loans, all kinds of programs and spending aimed at helping revitalize and de-thuggify inner city neighborhoods... I live in South Carolina and every day I see white grandparents in their 60s and 70s playing with their mixed-race grandchildren and nobody else batting an eye over it, so I am disinclined to think widespread white racism is still a causal agent... so exactly WTF else can whites do? The opportunities are there... grab them and climb the ladder. :shrug:
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
The poverty rates (percentages) are indeed higher within those racial/ethnic segments of the popualtion, but that is not per capita. Per capita is of the whole or per person.
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The poverty rates (percentages) are indeed higher within those racial/ethnic segments of the popualtion, but that is not per capita. Per capita is of the whole or per person.
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
Maybe they can help by trying to be the role models for the black community. Or maybe try to understand why the gang culture is so appealing to African Americans.
Maybe they can help by trying to be the role models for the black community. Or maybe try to understand why the gang culture is so appealing to African Americans.
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Twist and turn..spin and dodge..play word games and obfuscate...the fact remains that negroes commit a disproportionate amount of crime despite only being 13% of the population...and it is noted that you avoid and refuse to address the facts I posted in #169 as you desperately try to equivocate and rationalize.
Here's another proven statistic for you to evade;
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf
A 2007 special report released by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, reveals that approximately 8,000 — and, in certain years, as many as 9,000 African Americans are murdered annually in the United States. This chilling figure is accompanied by another equally sobering fact, that 93% of these murders are in fact perpetrated by other blacks. The analysis, supported by FBI records, finds that in 2005 alone, for example, African Americans accounted for 49% of all homicide victims in the US — again, almost exclusively at the hands of other African Americans.
During the Vietnam War, which lasted nearly 13 years, some 58,000 Americans were killed — nearly 13 percent of whom were African American.
Extrapolating black-on-black crime data reveals that, by comparison, approximately 100,000 African Americans have been killed on our own streets at the hands of other African Americans in roughly the same stretches of time. It is difficult to find anyone who would white-wash these mind-numbing statistics.
Now try to explain that with some convoluted excuse about poverty or per capita or whatever dodge you'll seek refuge in this time.
Twist and turn..spin and dodge..play word games and obfuscate...the fact remains that negroes commit a disproportionate amount of crime despite only being 13% of the population...and it is noted that you avoid and refuse to address the facts I posted in #169 as you desperately try to equivocate and rationalize.
Here's another proven statistic for you to evade;
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf
A 2007 special report released by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, reveals that approximately 8,000 — and, in certain years, as many as 9,000 African Americans are murdered annually in the United States. This chilling figure is accompanied by another equally sobering fact, that 93% of these murders are in fact perpetrated by other blacks. The analysis, supported by FBI records, finds that in 2005 alone, for example, African Americans accounted for 49% of all homicide victims in the US — again, almost exclusively at the hands of other African Americans.
During the Vietnam War, which lasted nearly 13 years, some 58,000 Americans were killed — nearly 13 percent of whom were African American.
Extrapolating black-on-black crime data reveals that, by comparison, approximately 100,000 African Americans have been killed on our own streets at the hands of other African Americans in roughly the same stretches of time. It is difficult to find anyone who would white-wash these mind-numbing statistics.
Now try to explain that with some convoluted excuse about poverty or per capita or whatever dodge you'll seek refuge in this time.
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
What we need is an end to the politically correct. Teachers need to be allowed to be frank with their students, and disclose in no uncertain terms the end result students can look forward to for poor performance, without getting fired for delivering a disturbing message to young minds. Parents need to be held accountable for the upbringing of their kids. There are harsh lessons that need to be learned, and they need to be taught before their kids are adults.
You do not have the right to not get offended, and once born, a child's rights supersedes those of a parents, up until they are considered old enough to be independent.
What we need is an end to the politically correct. Teachers need to be allowed to be frank with their students, and disclose in no uncertain terms the end result students can look forward to for poor performance, without getting fired for delivering a disturbing message to young minds. Parents need to be held accountable for the upbringing of their kids. There are harsh lessons that need to be learned, and they need to be taught before their kids are adults.
You do not have the right to not get offended, and once born, a child's rights supersedes those of a parents, up until they are considered old enough to be independent.
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I don't really see that. I mean, I've spent plenty of time in "the hood" in various capacities, and I really don't see whites being accepted as role models there. Nor is understanding the appeal of gangs to AA youth going to change anything in itself. Like..."okay, now I understand... what do you expect ME to DO about it??"
I don't really see that. I mean, I've spent plenty of time in "the hood" in various capacities, and I really don't see whites being accepted as role models there. Nor is understanding the appeal of gangs to AA youth going to change anything in itself. Like..."okay, now I understand... what do you expect ME to DO about it??"
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
Yes..if we only tried to understand them it would solve everything...LMAO
Is your position that you view them as inferior and incapable of achieving without white people's guidance?
Are you saying that most black people can't function in civilization without special support?
For over five decades we've "empowered" them, "enfranchised" them, pampered them, placed them on pedestals as creatures of worship or pity.... And for all that spending, pampering and pandering, we have vast urban areas of slums, ghettos, ruins filled with some of the most violent, blood thirsty, savage, feral creatures to ever stride the planet. We've had 50+ years of forced integration. 50+ years of generous social entitlement programs. 50+years of excuses.
They have received more help from white people than any other people in human history, and yet they still remain the most slothful, lazy, feckless, violent, brutal, and savage. No race in human history has been given more than negroes.
We've given money to bring them out of poverty, we've passed laws to prevent non-white discrimination, we've advanced them in our schools without them needing to learn, we've given them jobs and home loans they didn't qualify for.
Is life better now than it was before such social engineering took place? ..or are cities decaying ruins? Aren't negroes educated on par with whites after nearly three generations? Yes they are... More importantly, though, do current blacks embrace the education their grandparents demanded?
Some 50+ years after civil rights movement demanded blacks be included into white society, we are more segregated now than ever before. Black "culture" is so far removed from the main stream culture that is unrecognizable as progressive and has more in common with the African tribal warriors of the first century BC.
Yes..if we only tried to understand them it would solve everything...LMAO
Is your position that you view them as inferior and incapable of achieving without white people's guidance?
Are you saying that most black people can't function in civilization without special support?
For over five decades we've "empowered" them, "enfranchised" them, pampered them, placed them on pedestals as creatures of worship or pity.... And for all that spending, pampering and pandering, we have vast urban areas of slums, ghettos, ruins filled with some of the most violent, blood thirsty, savage, feral creatures to ever stride the planet. We've had 50+ years of forced integration. 50+ years of generous social entitlement programs. 50+years of excuses.
They have received more help from white people than any other people in human history, and yet they still remain the most slothful, lazy, feckless, violent, brutal, and savage. No race in human history has been given more than negroes.
We've given money to bring them out of poverty, we've passed laws to prevent non-white discrimination, we've advanced them in our schools without them needing to learn, we've given them jobs and home loans they didn't qualify for.
Is life better now than it was before such social engineering took place? ..or are cities decaying ruins? Aren't negroes educated on par with whites after nearly three generations? Yes they are... More importantly, though, do current blacks embrace the education their grandparents demanded?
Some 50+ years after civil rights movement demanded blacks be included into white society, we are more segregated now than ever before. Black "culture" is so far removed from the main stream culture that is unrecognizable as progressive and has more in common with the African tribal warriors of the first century BC.
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
If we understand what makes gangs so appealing maybe we can find a way to make them less appealing.
I just cannot accept the notion that African Americans are some how less worthy of understanding just because they worship gang culture.
If we understand what makes gangs so appealing maybe we can find a way to make them less appealing.
I just cannot accept the notion that African Americans are some how less worthy of understanding just because they worship gang culture.
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
It isn't what they "WORSHIP" that is the problem...the problem is with what they DO...and that is reflected in the black crime rates...which people are growing sick and tired of.
EDIT; untiedwestand..your avatar says sunnyvale cal.
Here ya go..check this out...
Sunnyvale Cal.
demographics
population 140,000
white; 43%
black; 2%
2 PERCENT!
Please lecture us some more on how those of us that live in majority black urban areas should try to "understand" them better.
The thing is, those of us that live among/near them already "understand" them. I happen to live in one of the most dangerous cities in america..Want to know why it's one of the most dangerous? Care to take a wild guess?
Here's another fact for those of you who sit far away from the problem and pontificate...The most dangerous cities in America have the most minorities. The safest have the fewest minorities.
But race doesn't have anything to do with it.:roll:
It isn't what they "WORSHIP" that is the problem...the problem is with what they DO...and that is reflected in the black crime rates...which people are growing sick and tired of.
EDIT; untiedwestand..your avatar says sunnyvale cal.
Here ya go..check this out...
Sunnyvale Cal.
demographics
population 140,000
white; 43%
black; 2%
2 PERCENT!
Please lecture us some more on how those of us that live in majority black urban areas should try to "understand" them better.
The thing is, those of us that live among/near them already "understand" them. I happen to live in one of the most dangerous cities in america..Want to know why it's one of the most dangerous? Care to take a wild guess?
Here's another fact for those of you who sit far away from the problem and pontificate...The most dangerous cities in America have the most minorities. The safest have the fewest minorities.
But race doesn't have anything to do with it.:roll:
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
And why is the black crime rate so high? I refuse to accept the notion that African Americans are more criminally inclined.
And why is the black crime rate so high? I refuse to accept the notion that African Americans are more criminally inclined.
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
It had all the elements of a tragic story, WWII veteran hero, savagely kicked to death by what is reported to be a random act of violence. They did it just because...on the heals of the other three teens killing the Australian baseball player because they were bored. The media should have been all over this story just for the sensationalism.
But it wasnt a violent crime against a minority so over look it as long as you can so you can tell everyone how Oprah says she got mistreated in Switzerland or update some other trivial entertainment story.
I dont care if you are green, blue, yellow, purple with orange polka dots....if you viciously kill someone for no reason, you dont deserve to see another minute of sunlight ever again.
It had all the elements of a tragic story, WWII veteran hero, savagely kicked to death by what is reported to be a random act of violence. They did it just because...on the heals of the other three teens killing the Australian baseball player because they were bored. The media should have been all over this story just for the sensationalism.
But it wasnt a violent crime against a minority so over look it as long as you can so you can tell everyone how Oprah says she got mistreated in Switzerland or update some other trivial entertainment story.
I dont care if you are green, blue, yellow, purple with orange polka dots....if you viciously kill someone for no reason, you dont deserve to see another minute of sunlight ever again.
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It doesn't matter what you accept or refuse to accept.It doesn't matter what the excuses are. The facts are irrefutable. Blacks commit hugely disproportionate amounts of crime despite only making up 13% of the population.
Go back and address the facts in post #169 that you have avoided...or just tell us why 93% of all blacks murdered in america were murdered by OTHER BLACKS. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf
Is that somehow white people's fault, too?
It doesn't matter what you accept or refuse to accept.It doesn't matter what the excuses are. The facts are irrefutable. Blacks commit hugely disproportionate amounts of crime despite only making up 13% of the population.
Go back and address the facts in post #169 that you have avoided...or just tell us why 93% of all blacks murdered in america were murdered by OTHER BLACKS. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/bvvc.pdf
Is that somehow white people's fault, too?
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
What were these guys desperate for when they murdered an innocent human being? Were they hungry? Had no place to spend the night? You should back up your claim with some facts. I never heard any of those accused say they did t because they were poor. That's just White Liberals speaking for the Black culture.
What were these guys desperate for when they murdered an innocent human being? Were they hungry? Had no place to spend the night? You should back up your claim with some facts. I never heard any of those accused say they did t because they were poor. That's just White Liberals speaking for the Black culture.
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
I hear the same reasoning from White Liberals. The problem could be the Democratic Party.
I hear the same reasoning from White Liberals. The problem could be the Democratic Party.
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Misguided liberal programs that generate an entitlement mentality, beginning with LBJ, coupled with preference programs for minorities to achieve "racial balance" regardless of qualification.
Misguided liberal programs that generate an entitlement mentality, beginning with LBJ, coupled with preference programs for minorities to achieve "racial balance" regardless of qualification.
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And the consequences of these poorly thought out programs are in the White House today. The 'affirmative action' programs begun by the Democrats institutionalized the idea that Black people were somehow inferior. This should be a sin against any group of people.
And the consequences of these poorly thought out programs are in the White House today. The 'affirmative action' programs begun by the Democrats institutionalized the idea that Black people were somehow inferior. This should be a sin against any group of people.
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I'm pretty sure that idea was well established long before then, like maybe when we brought them here in chains?
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
Some people had that idea at the time and they were referred to as "Democrats". The "Republicans" fought a Civil War, with hundreds of thousands of men lost, to abolish this idea of inferiority. But the "Democrats" reintroduced the idea again through their race based "Affirmative Action" programs.
Just a brief history lesson.
Some people had that idea at the time and they were referred to as "Democrats". The "Republicans" fought a Civil War, with hundreds of thousands of men lost, to abolish this idea of inferiority. But the "Democrats" reintroduced the idea again through their race based "Affirmative Action" programs.
Just a brief history lesson.
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Re: WWII Vet, 88, brutally beaten in Spokane, Wash.
Do a search and see who owned the slave ships that transported them to the u.s..
..also..how did those africans become slaves in the first place? Who enslaved them?
Do a search and see who owned the slave ships that transported them to the u.s..
..also..how did those africans become slaves in the first place? Who enslaved them?