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Bill Clinton foundation has spent more than $50M on travel expenses

Grant said:
Leftists are much the same everywhere. It doesn't really matter what country you're in. Get out more, read more, learn more, and you will see for yourself. Connecticut is just a small dot on the map, but Leftism is universal.
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Hahahahahhaah. Ahhh they're so cute.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Naivety can be extremely comforting.
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Blind partisan hatred can be extremely comforting.

Slick Willie would be proud, "oblivious" child.
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Do you have anything but conjecture? Did you look at their tax returns?

Or are you, like Grant, going to argue from positions of sheer ignorance?
 
CanadaJohn said:
It was pointed out that as a charitable foundation, those donating money receive a tax rebate or incentive to do so, so in effect, the foundation is taking money from the treasury of the United States. If then, that money is being misused in any way, that becomes an issue for the American people as a whole.

So, to your point, Rocket claiming that it's not "government" money and not "your" money is partly untrue.
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Do you have evidence this is happening? Also, where is your outrage on others actually caught violating the 501(c)3 code?

I take it you didn't bother to read or understand the law in question, nor did you even bother to read the foundation's 990 returns?

Furthermore, with the 2% itemized phaseout, the tax expenditure amounts aren't as big as partisans like to claim they are.
 
It should embarrass every single one of you that Sangha read the 990 and you didn't.

How can ANY of you even remotely think you are qualified to discuss this without reading their 990 and without reading and understanding the law in question?

Jesus Christ. The Era of Free Information and so many of you are willfully ignorant. Shame.
 
obvious Child said:
Blind partisan hatred can be extremely comforting.



Do you have anything but conjecture? Did you look at their tax returns?

Or are you, like Grant, going to argue from positions of sheer ignorance?
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The fact that you have blind acceptance that the "Clinton" foundation - with Billie, and Hill, and Chelsea all on the payroll and promoting themselves - is anything but a vanity project to stroke the Clinton narcissism is laughable. Again, naivety is comforting, isn't it?
 
obvious Child said:
Do you have evidence this is happening? Also, where is your outrage on others actually caught violating the 501(c)3 code?

I take it you didn't bother to read or understand the law in question, nor did you even bother to read the foundation's 990 returns?

Furthermore, with the 2% itemized phaseout, the tax expenditure amounts aren't as big as partisans like to claim they are.
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You seem to be portraying yourself as an expert on the foundation so I'll ask you, I've been trying to determine how much the Clintons donated to start up the "Clinton" foundation and how much they have personally donated to the foundation since its inception and I've been unable to find any references - any information? I ask because I note that Bill and Melinda Gates donated $26 billion to start their foundation and continue to donate so I assume the Clintons do likewise.
 
CanadaJohn said:
The fact that you have blind acceptance
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And you got this were?

I read the 990. I cited numbers from it. I also have experience with other non-profits. And I know where to find comparably large non-profits.

And I have good working knowledge of the 501(c)3 code.

Where did you get the notion of blind acceptance?

Or is this your sole pathetic way of avoiding an argument on technical and legal grounds?

that the "Clinton" foundation - with Billie, and Hill, and Chelsea all on the payroll
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Really? Page 7 has Chelsea receiving zero compensation. If you did any research whatsoever, you'd know this. If Biill or Hillary are recieving any compensation, it's less than $100,000 as they are excluded from reporting requirements. So where is your evidence that Bill, Hillary and Chelsea are all on payroll? It's pretty obvious you did zero research at all on this.

and promoting themselves
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Which is not illegal.

is anything but a vanity project to stroke the Clinton narcissism is laughable. Again, naivety is comforting, isn't it?
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Did you read a single thing the foundation does?

CanadaJohn said:
You seem to be portraying yourself as an expert on the foundation so I'll ask you, I've been trying to determine how much the Clintons donated to start up the "Clinton" foundation and how much they have personally donated to the foundation since its inception and I've been unable to find any references - any information? I ask because I note that Bill and Melinda Gates donated $26 billion to start their foundation and continue to donate so I assume the Clintons do likewise.
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I never said I was an expert on the foundation. I said know a hell of a lot more than any of you do about non-profits. You should be ashamed that Sangha read the return and you didn't.

How is this relevant to the topic?

Do you or do not have any actual evidence for your claims?
 
Grant said:
How would you describe "an extreme centrist"?
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reaching a high or the highest degree; very great.
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going to great or exaggerated lengths
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Someone who considers the center their base.

Also...let's not kid ourselves. Centrism in the US is typically socially liberal and fiscally conservative. It's the Wall Street folks or big business folks that don't care about gays getting married but man....don't regulate their derivatives market.
 
Grant said:
Leftists are much the same everywhere. It doesn't really matter what country you're in. Get out more, read more, learn more, and you will see for yourself. Connecticut is just a small dot on the map, but Leftism is universal.
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If you think all Democrats are leftists then you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
 
iliveonramen said:
If you think all Democrats are leftists then you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
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I watched much of their convention, witnessed BHO's programs, etc. Are the Dem's for or against, for example, socialized medicine?
 
Grant said:
I watched much of their convention, witnessed BHO's programs, etc. Are the Dem's for or against, for example, socialized medicine?
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Couldn't even get 60 votes for a public option in health insurance, let alone socialized insurance, let alone socialized medicine...
 
Deuce said:
Couldn't even get 60 votes for a public option in health insurance, let alone socialized insurance, let alone socialized medicine...
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The end ambition is single payer, which is what Obama has wanted and which is socialized medicine. No Republicans voted for it - it was all Democrats.
 
iliveonramen said:
Ehhh...if you think Bill or Hillary are liberal progressives you're crazy.
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Oh, well don't take my word for it, listen to Hillary herself....



Now, you can twist all you want, but Hillary is a progressive, and dangerous.
 
j-mac said:
Oh, well don't take my word for it, listen to Hillary herself....



Now, you can twist all you want, but Hillary is a progressive, and dangerous.
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These objections over political classifications really got rolling some years ago when the left continually claimed most of the world did not know what socialism is. They're still at it, changing labels faster than a gypsy con artist.
 
humbolt said:
These objections over political classifications really got rolling some years ago when the left continually claimed most of the world did not know what socialism is. They're still at it, changing labels faster than a gypsy con artist.
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They gave a once respected word like 'Liberal' a bad name and have already done so with 'progressive'. How is Hillary, part of the 1% of the 1%, progressive? She only wants to progress in politics, gaining ever more money and power.
 
Grant said:
They gave a once respected word like 'Liberal' a bad name and have already done so with 'progressive'. How is Hillary, part of the 1% of the 1%, progressive? She only wants to progress in politics, gaining ever more money and power.
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What those in power on the left espouse is decidedly different than the lives they live. It's actually the very same lifestyle as those in power on the right, center, and every other point on the political compass. I don't expect them to renounce their lives, money and power. They'll never do that. They could end the obvious hypocrisy, though. That would be refreshing.
 
humbolt said:
What those in power on the left espouse is decidedly different than the lives they live. It's actually the very same lifestyle as those in power on the right, center, and every other point on the political compass. I don't expect them to renounce their lives, money and power. They'll never do that. They could end the obvious hypocrisy, though. That would be refreshing.
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And they con those of simple mind that they are one of the folks and can, like Hillary, even provide an accent when needed to prove their point. BHO does the same.

The PJ Tatler » Seven of the Top Ten Wealthiest Members of Congress Are Democrats
 
It is just hilarious to watch the Leftists defend Clinton after the Occupy Wall Street Scumbags, and their hounding Romney for actually working for the money he earned.

How Leftists wake up in the morning and look themselves in the mirror must be a real circus act. I couldn't do it when I learned the depth of the lies and deceits of the Left.

ROTFLOL... they take in tens of millions and still spend more than what comes in. EXACTLY what they've done with our nation.

If they're so incompetent they can't manage a foundation, what are the chances they can run a nation? Well... many know the answer to that... don't we?
 
humbolt said:
"I ain't in no ways tired..." I remember that well. Hillary at her finest.
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For some reason I still have to laugh when I see this, despite it being a few years old. It is just what we have come to expect from the Jubilation T. Cornpone types.
 
Grant said:
For some reason I still have to laugh when I see this, despite it being a few years old. It is just what we have come to expect from the Jubilation T. Cornpone types.
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Think if Sarah Palin did something half this dimwitted? And then there is Obama who laid out a pile of dung as large as Hillary's with this BS:
There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don’t tell me Im not coming home to Selma, Alabama.
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Ugh... Barack... you don't have no claims on Selma. Ugh Barack... N' I don't thank youz com'in howm t' Selma eetha.

Both are Bullchit Machines. Model 21st Century Leftists.

 
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