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Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens - just because[W:189:219]

Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

Who cares, they decided to be murderers. All sympathy gone. Adult prison or death.
Oh wait, 3 poor bored black kids kill white successful college student and star athlete.
Move on, nothing to see. No race componant, just is what it is, just a little worse then an ass whoopin'.
Plenty of white people out there, they wont miss one.

Did I say they shouldn't be held accountable? I'll have to go back through my posts and check, but I don't recall saying it was OK.

Good to know that what you really care about is people's race though.
 
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All three were black. It makes all black people look bad. I don't get how people can be so freakin' evil to murder someone because they're bored.


It doesn't make all black people look bad anymore than Timothy McVeigh made all white people look bad.
 
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Did I say they shouldn't be held accountable? I'll have to go back through my posts and check, but I don't recall saying it was OK.

Good to know that what you really care about is people's race though.
Money says they wouldnt have done it to a black guy.
 
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How long are right wing posters going to link every murder back to the Zimmerman/martin case?

Forever.

TBH, I think they were all ready for a "guilty verdict" that when it didn't happen they didn't know what to do with all the rage they had stored up for it.
 
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Money says they wouldnt have done it to a black guy.

Why do I care? Is what's bad that they killed a person, or that they killed a white person?
 
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Why do I care? Is what's bad that they killed a person, or that they killed a white person?

Good for the goose, good for the gander. The left better get used to it.
 
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So, the Z/M should have ended, but this one should continue to be huge news because???

Because if the race hustlers like Sharpton, Jackson and Obama opened their yaps about this kind of stuff then maybe they could generate a little responsibility in their communities instead of just more excuses.
 
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Good for the goose, good for the gander. The left better get used to it.

The left better get used to white people getting killed?

Or is this another one of those "the Libbos in my head say this" arguments?
 
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Because if the race hustlers like Sharpton, Jackson and Obama opened their yaps about this kind of stuff then maybe they could generate a little responsibility in their communities instead of just more excuses.

If the problem was that Z/M got blown out of proportion because of a faulty racial thing, doing that to this doesn't make it OK.
 
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It doesn't make all black people look bad anymore than Timothy McVeigh made all white people look bad.

We'll, I'm personally ashamed.

I think a part of it that maybe should be is many black people identify more with other blacks; shared history of persecution, impressive accomplishments despite difficult treatment in history and now many in the post Civil Rights era choose to be deadbeats, crackheads, dropouts and the worst kind of criminals. Its pathetic. I wonder what Martin Luther King would say today if he were alive to see what these thugs have done with the mantle he handed to him. A 70% out of wedlock birth rate, 14% making up 50% of the prison population and murder for boredom is not why gave his life. Sorry, I'm just angry and frustrated right now. People should be able to jog down the street without having to worry if they're going to get killed because somebody has nothing else to do. I'd think we'd somewhat were trying to come together as a country if Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Ben Jealous and Louis Farrakhan would go out to Oklahoma and call for these thugs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law but I doubt that'll happen.
 
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Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

If the problem was that Z/M got blown out of proportion because of a faulty racial thing, doing that to this doesn't make it OK.

Yeah because it's only OK when the victim is black and the perp is white....

Typical progressive logic right there.
 
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If the problem was that Z/M got blown out of proportion because of a faulty racial thing, doing that to this doesn't make it OK.

So there is no good reason for black parents to say to their kids, "Hey! Look what happened in Duncan. Three kids your age just shot a guy because they were bored. They were all black, just like you. They were "wannabe thugs" just like you're hanging out with. As a parent, I would much prefer that you put any ideas of rolling with damned fools like that out of your head. If you choose to do that then get the hell out of my house now and never come back. If you do it behind my back then I'm going to beat the black right off of you and then kick you out. Do we have an understanding!?"

How about encouraging good behavior, positive attitudes and a productive lifestyle instead of making excuses?
 
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It doesn't make all black people look bad anymore than Timothy McVeigh made all white people look bad.

I'm still looking for explanation as to why Zimmerman was called white for two years.
 
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So there is no good reason for black parents to say to their kids, "Hey! Look what happened in Duncan. Three kids your age just shot a guy because they were bored. They were all black, just like you. They were "wannabe thugs" just like you're hanging out with. As a parent, I would much prefer that you put any ideas of rolling with damned fools like that out of your head. If you choose to do that then get the hell out of my house now and never come back. If you do it behind my back then I'm going to beat the black right off of you and then kick you out. Do we have an understanding!?"

How about encouraging good behavior, positive attitudes and a productive lifestyle instead of making excuses?

That's fine, but what's race specific about that? If you take out any references about being black, it still makes sense. Being a good person = being a good person.
 
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Yeah because it's only OK when the victim is black and the perp is white....

Typical progressive logic right there.

I didn't say that, but I understand that you have no ability to debate anything but a strawman.
 
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I'm still looking for explanation as to why Zimmerman was called white for two years.

Strawman.

I'm still looking for an explanation as to why I have to take off my shoes at the airport, but that has nothing to do with this either.
 
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We'll, I'm personally ashamed.

I think a part of it that maybe should be is many black people identify more with other blacks; shared history of persecution, impressive accomplishments despite difficult treatment in history and now many in the post Civil Rights era choose to be deadbeats, crackheads, dropouts and the worst kind of criminals. Its pathetic. I wonder what Martin Luther King would say today if he were alive to see what these thugs have done with the mantle he handed to him. A 70% out of wedlock birth rate, 14% making up 50% of the prison population and murder for boredom is not why gave his life. Sorry, I'm just angry and frustrated right now. People should be able to jog down the street without having to worry if they're going to get killed because somebody has nothing else to do. I'd think we'd somewhat were trying to come together as a country if Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Ben Jealous and Louis Farrakhan would go out to Oklahoma and call for these thugs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law but I doubt that'll happen.
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Why should you be personally ashamed? I assume from you saying that that you're black, but I'm not personally ashamed about McVeigh or Jeffrey Dahmer. They were both white as I am, but their actions have nothing to do with me. That was them, I'm me. We're all individuals and the bad things a person does should be ascribed to the individual and not to every person in a racial, religious, or national grouping.
 
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So there is no good reason for black parents to say to their kids, "Hey! Look what happened in Duncan. Three kids your age just shot a guy because they were bored. They were all black, just like you. They were "wannabe thugs" just like you're hanging out with. As a parent, I would much prefer that you put any ideas of rolling with damned fools like that out of your head. If you choose to do that then get the hell out of my house now and never come back. If you do it behind my back then I'm going to beat the black right off of you and then kick you out. Do we have an understanding!?"

How about encouraging good behavior, positive attitudes and a productive lifestyle instead of making excuses?

I don't fully get the dysfunction but being there under the same roof everyday and living your life to make sure your kids know they're loved more than you love your own happiness, which includes a healthy dose of disciple, is probably a part of what might be missing.
 
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I'm telling you... Oklahoma is just a damn violent place.

Hate to even ask but is there outrage that this was racist? The three kids are black.
 
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That's fine, but what's race specific about that? If you take out any references about being black, it still makes sense. Being a good person = being a good person.

Maybe you're unaware of this but the problem we're discussing has manifested in the black community to a MUCH larger extent than it has in white communities. We all hear the excuses that blacks get unfair treatment and they can't get ahead as easy as white kids and so on and so forth but there is an INSTITUTION built up around making excuses for blacks and that institution is doing far more damage than any overt racial prejudices are.

Equality means that everyone gets treated the same. If we build up walls around one demographic or another then we are no longer treating them equally and that "protection" first breeds resentment then it breeds entitlement and then it breeds contempt and self loathing. Somebody needs to stop the cycle.
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

I'm telling you... Oklahoma is just a damn violent place.

Hate to even ask but is there outrage that this was racist? The three kids are black.

most of the outrage I have seen is because they used a......GASP.....gun. news flash...it's not the damned gun's fault. If they didn't have a gun, these three punks would have just stabbed him or beaten him to death. If you are wanting to kill someone...not having a gun isn't going to stop you.
 
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I don't fully get the dysfunction but being there under the same roof everyday and living your life to make sure your kids know they're loved more than you love your own happiness, which includes a healthy dose of disciple, is probably a part of what might be missing.

I think that's part of the problem. In many broken homes the concept of love gets warped. The idea of discipline isn't seen as love but it's one of the most important aspects of expressing that deep emotional desire for your progeny to succeed in their lives. The single parent has time constraints which make that discipline more difficult but too often one parent disciplines and the other overturns the decision or when the kid goes to see the other parent they get a pass because there either isn't any communication between the parents or one chooses to play "nice guy" to the other ones "bad guy".
 
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Unreliable sources report that George W. Bush has said that if he "had a son he'd look like Chris Lane".
 
Re: Police: Australian baseball player killed by Oklahoma teens -- just because

All three were black. It makes all black people look bad. I don't get how people can be so freakin' evil to murder someone because they're bored.

One was white and two were black. These kids were thrown away. That's the real problem. How do we address that? Where in the world do we start? I am not saying that excuses what they did. When you kill someone in cold blood you forfeit all your rights no matter how old you are. But to keep it from happening again and again, WTF do we do?
 
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It looks like the original report I read was correct....two black kids and one white kid. Seems like two parents have made statements along the lines of "my kid isn't like that".

I look forward to hearing what these fine young men have to say for themselves because at this point I kind of figure them to be a disgrace to all mankind.

Oh yeah...to the white kid who was apparently crying in his jail cell and claiming "I didn't pull the trigger"......go **** yourself! You chose to play with punks and be a tough guy. Well, tough guy, how'd that all work out for you? If you never see the light of day again it will be too soon as far as I'm concerned.
 
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