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Diplomats in Benghazi Debacle Back on Job

Diplomats punished for Benghazi back on job | Fox News

Four Americans dead, government cover-up, lies and deception at the highest levels, corruption, no accountability and American credibility in further decline. Diplomats reinstated after a year long paid vacation! Sick!

Don't feel bad.....it gets worse. Susan Rice was made head of the NSA. Plus Hillary actually thinks she should run for the Presidency. In her thinking.....What difference does it make. But don't worry. We got Thousands of pics of the Dead from Benghazi all waiting to go up with Hillary's Name all on them. Specially pics of Stevens whom she sent to his death.


Btw.....Welcome to the Forums of Debate Politics, Mizmo.
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It is absoultley horrible, and I am not a sensitive guy, the Republicans would use those pictures for political gain. 4 people got killed and to Faux and the conservatives it is politics of smear as usual. The thought of that is really pitiful. ANd there was no wrongdoing at benghazi.
Don't feel bad.....it gets worse. Susan Rice was made head of the NSA. Plus Hillary actually thinks she should run for the Presidency. In her thinking.....What difference does it make. But don't worry. We got Thousands of pics of the Dead from Benghazi all waiting to go up with Hillary's Name all on them. Specially pics of Stevens whom she sent to his death.


Btw.....Welcome to the Forums of Debate Politics, Mizmo.
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Diplomats punished for Benghazi back on job | Fox News

Four Americans dead, government cover-up, lies and deception at the highest levels, corruption, no accountability and American credibility in further decline. Diplomats reinstated after a year long paid vacation! Sick!

The Obamatrons simply don't care. What difference, at this point, does it make? Holding anyone accountable for "mistakes in judgement" is not the federal gov't way of doing business. Don't expect any shake-ups to occur anywhere within the "trusted" Obama federal personnel, either in the state departmant, IRS or NSA. Those that tow the official line well, like Susan Rice, get promoted - Hillary expects the same thing and is already campaigning for 2016.
 
It is absoultley horrible, and I am not a sensitive guy, the Republicans would use those pictures for political gain. 4 people got killed and to Faux and the conservatives it is politics of smear as usual. The thought of that is really pitiful. ANd there was no wrongdoing at benghazi.

"no wrongdoing at benghazi"?? You remind me of those who say, "It's wrong only if you get caught." So far, no one has been "caught"!

Semper Fidelis!
 
Exactly what did someone do wrong? You remind me of people who make up stuff. Semper Fi.
"no wrongdoing at benghazi"?? You remind me of those who say, "It's wrong only if you get caught." So far, no one has been "caught"!

Semper Fidelis!
 
It is absoultley horrible, and I am not a
sensitive guy, the Republicans would use those pictures for political gain. 4 people got killed and to Faux and the conservatives it is politics of smear as usual. The thought of that is really pitiful. ANd there was no wrongdoing at benghazi.

Wow your'e more twisted than I thought.

Hillary to the parents of the men who lost their lives waiting for help that never came....." We will arrest the man that made that movie ".

A cover up right before a election is OK with you but what the Rebublicans are doing......now that's " terrible"..

Wow
 
Dont start off with an insult and expect someone to take you seriously.
Wow your'e more twisted than I thought.

Hillary to the parents of the men who lost their lives waiting for help that never came....." We will arrest the man that made that movie ".

A cover up right before a election is OK with you but what the Rebublicans are doing......now that's " terrible"..

Wow
 
It is absoultley horrible, and I am not a sensitive guy, the Republicans would use those pictures for political gain. 4 people got killed and to Faux and the conservatives it is politics of smear as usual. The thought of that is really pitiful. ANd there was no wrongdoing at benghazi.

Heya Mak. :2wave: Well to be honest.....it was trick taken out of the Democratic Playbook. Like Obama did, used Benghazi for Political Gain and in Election to top it off. You don't think for a second that Clinton wouldn't hesitate to use something politically damaging to gain power. No not at all Right? :roll:
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Yes there was quite a bit of wrongdoing in Benghazi.....the First thing that was wrong. Was not listening to the Libyans. Who repeatedly told us that Benghazi was to dangerous to conduct any business in at the time. We were given this warning 3 days before 911 and two days before al Zawahiri released his tape stating to avenge al-Libi. Both State Dept and the CIA ignored those warnings.

Also State Dept refused to acknowledge the clear and present warning signs as to what had happened inside Libya with other Foreign Diplomats.

Then there was the issue of the State Dept hiring those who attacked us. Let alone a host of procedures and protocols that were not followed. As well as the incompetency and then the playing for political gain by those all working Under Clinton Directly.
 
Diplomats punished for Benghazi back on job | Fox News

Four Americans dead, government cover-up, lies and deception at the highest levels, corruption, no accountability and American credibility in further decline. Diplomats reinstated after a year long paid vacation! Sick!

4 dead is horrible to you, but you probably thought a second Bush term was a great idea. Please, keep the faux outrage and get another issue. this is a non-issue. You never freaked out under other presidents who had a lot more embassy attacks and deaths than obama has. You did not say it was sick that a president ignores dire warnings that lead to the largest terror attack and over 3000 dead civilians on US soil. You never freaked out over the thousands of soldiers who gave their lives in a goose chase for WMDs that never existed. Now 4 people dead is sick. Seriously, you sound like jim Carrey protesting kickass 2.
 
4 dead is horrible to you, but you probably thought a second Bush term was a great idea. Please, keep the faux outrage and get another issue. this is a non-issue. You never freaked out under other presidents who had a lot more embassy attacks and deaths than obama has. You did not say it was sick that a president ignores dire warnings that lead to the largest terror attack and over 3000 dead civilians on US soil. You never freaked out over the thousands of soldiers who gave their lives in a goose chase for WMDs that never existed. Now 4 people dead is sick. Seriously, you sound like jim Carrey protesting kickass 2.

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Wake Up.....No one said anything about Buuuuuuuuuuusssssshhhhhh. :2razz:

How do you know he never freaked out about all those people killed at Embassies when Bilbo the Clown was in office? Another Democrat. The reason he did not say he was sick that a president ignores dire warning that lead to the largest terror attack and over 3000 dead civilians. Was due to the issue of no one bringing anything up.

Again how do you know he never freaked out over the thousands of soldiers who gave their lives in a goose chase for WMDs that never existed. How do you he is not freaked out by the Obama Policy in Afghanistan that has lead to more deaths than even Under Buuuuuuuuuuuusssssshhhhhh. As well as to a policy that allows our people to get shot in the back.

Now 4 people dead and one being a US Ambassador.....which came from a Direct and purposeful attack. Which btw.....is an Act of War.
 
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Wake Up.....No one said anything about Buuuuuuuuuuusssssshhhhhh. :2razz:

Actually he said it was sick, and in comparison with what has happened in the past 4 people dying in a consulate attack is relatively good compared to past presidents including Bush, Clinton, Daddy Bush, and Reagan. If you are going to be all overdramatic about 4 people dying it might be good to have some consistency because i am pretty sure given the OPs dramatic overreaction he probably should have poured gasoline on himself and lit himself on fire in protest long before obama came into office. If you want to take obama out of context with history that is your choice, but some of us might actually realize it was not sick and considering the past it was actually an improvement from how our presidents normally sacrifice lives.
How do you know he never freaked out about all those people killed at Embassies when Bilbo the Clown was in office? Another Democrat. The reason he did not say he was sick that a president ignores dire warning that lead to the largest terror attack and over 3000 dead civilians. Was due to the issue of no one bringing anything up.

Yeah, I am not buying that one. We all know benghazi is the hypocrite cry of the right wing drama queens. I am not even close to that gullible and the OP most definitally did not whine during past republican presidents and their sick errors. I can buy he whined during the clinton administration.
Again how do you know he never freaked out over the thousands of soldiers who gave their lives in a goose chase for WMDs that never existed. How do you he is not freaked out by the Obama Policy in Afghanistan that has lead to more deaths than even Under Buuuuuuuuuuuusssssshhhhhh. As well as to a policy that allows our people to get shot in the back.

Believe me, i have no doubt in my mind he did not freak out. As a matyter of fact I have absolutely no doubt he considers those men heroes and that they died for an important cause. Please, if i was that gullible I probably would not be here and would be emailing my bank account info to some nigerian prince.
Now 4 people dead and one being a US Ambassador.....which came from a Direct and purposeful attack. Which btw.....is an Act of War.

BTW it happened many more times and with many more casualties under the last 5 presidents and then some. 4 is actually an improvement, and even the Bush boys completely ignored those acts of war, and the younger one was distracted from those acts by the imaginary WMDs he made up. Which is worse to you, 4 people dead from a poorly secured consulate in a country we helped to free, or thousands dead because our president is such a boob he bought a lie he made up?
 
Actually he said it was sick, and in comparison with what has happened in the past 4 people dying in a consulate attack is relatively good compared to past presidents including Bush, Clinton, Daddy Bush, and Reagan. If you are going to be all overdramatic about 4 people dying it might be good to have some consistency because i am pretty sure given the OPs dramatic overreaction he probably should have poured gasoline on himself and lit himself on fire in protest long before obama came into office. If you want to take obama out of context with history that is your choice, but some of us might actually realize it was not sick and considering the past it was actually an improvement from how our presidents normally sacrifice lives.


Yeah, I am not buying that one. We all know benghazi is the hypocrite cry of the right wing drama queens. I am not even close to that gullible and the OP most definitally did not whine during past republican presidents and their sick errors. I can buy he whined during the clinton administration.


Believe me, i have no doubt in my mind he did not freak out. As a matyter of fact I have absolutely no doubt he considers those men heroes and that they died for an important cause. Please, if i was that gullible I probably would not be here and would be emailing my bank account info to some nigerian prince.


BTW it happened many more times and with many more casualties under the last 5 presidents and then some. 4 is actually an improvement, and even the Bush boys completely ignored those acts of war, and the younger one was distracted from those acts by the imaginary WMDs he made up. Which is worse to you, 4 people dead from a poorly secured consulate in a country we helped to free, or thousands dead because our president is such a boob he bought a lie he made up?



Well.....that's not fair you using a Crystal ball to read his thoughts. :lol:

Now now you know Bilbo was Responsible for more Diplomats deaths and 5000 getting injured while 244 were killed. Even had that Ambassador back then call and request for More Security. Only to be told no.

Course once it was all done and over with.....there was that promise that all Embassies had been hardened, security tightened, then that good Ole Democratic Guarantee. It will never happen again. :shock:
 
Actually two men have been held accountable. The military officers who ignored the stand down orders were both replaced. Guess the political pundits who enable Americans to be killed don't matter, but we punished the two who tried to stop it. Of course being good soldiers we don't REALLY know why they were demoted.


The Obamatrons simply don't care. What difference, at this point, does it make? Holding anyone accountable for "mistakes in judgement" is not the federal gov't way of doing business. Don't expect any shake-ups to occur anywhere within the "trusted" Obama federal personnel, either in the state departmant, IRS or NSA. Those that tow the official line well, like Susan Rice, get promoted - Hillary expects the same thing and is already campaigning for 2016.
 
4 dead is horrible to you, but you probably thought a second Bush term was a great idea. Please, keep the faux outrage and get another issue. this is a non-issue. You never freaked out under other presidents who had a lot more embassy attacks and deaths than obama has. You did not say it was sick that a president ignores dire warnings that lead to the largest terror attack and over 3000 dead civilians on US soil. You never freaked out over the thousands of soldiers who gave their lives in a goose chase for WMDs that never existed. Now 4 people dead is sick. Seriously, you sound like jim Carrey protesting kickass 2.

Friend, I don't freak out about any thing. And, I don't presume to know what some stranger has done or thought in past situations. The Benghazi debacle is still being investigated and hopefully the real truth will emerge. I'm sure that somewhere in the failure to protect Americans and in the subsequent cover-up, we will see that illicit gun-running plays a large part, and we will see that those in high places were calling the shots. Kinda like a foreign version of "fast and furious". Where was Obama during the hours long seige in Benghazi???
 
Friend, I don't freak out about any thing. And, I don't presume to know what some stranger has done or thought in past situations.

Sorry buddy, but I am not that gullible. Cons can try to be ambiguous about it, but we have seen your enthusiasm for the Iraq war, your excuses for Bush on ignoring warnings that might have helped stop 9/11 if he had paid attention, and the reality that 4 dead in an embassy attack is actually a pretty good record for a 2 term president considering the last half century. We know you do not like obama and hold him to a much higher standard than the failures like the Bushs', reagan, and nixon. You make it seem like this is something only he did and the rest of those guys are saints who did much better when really they failed much harder than he has in this area. If you want to do that sort of thing in the future it might be a good idea to have the conservatives stay more silent rather than being shining examples of hypocrisy in situations like this. In other words do not open your mouths and remove all doubt as to your intentions and contradictions. However, when you spend 8 years hailing Bush and praying to reagan's dead spirit it shows where you truly stand. Own it.

The Benghazi debacle is still being investigated and hopefully the real truth will emerge.

The truth has emerged. We know what happened. What you want is not the truth, but rather evidence of the lie that was made up. The problem with having an investigation based on an assumption of wrongdoing is that sometimes the situation and evidence is not what you assumed or wanted it to be. Was what happened due to risky actions? Of course. Was it worse than any other president? No, it actually worked out better than it has for other presidents. Interestingly the mistake of leaving the consolate with little protection also lowered the available people to die which was normally much higher for past presidents who put more people in harms way. Considering budget limitations and spending cutbacks you cannot boost support for these places. Less taxes and less spending that is promoted by the republicans means that the only available option to lower the death toll is to lower the number of people to be killed. It is simple math.

I'm sure that somewhere in the failure to protect Americans and in the subsequent cover-up, we will see that illicit gun-running plays a large part, and we will see that those in high places were calling the shots.

Thank you for catching up. We were selling arms to wacky kadaffi a month before the whole attack started and that was pretty public knowledge, and many news organizations questioned why we would all of a sudden turn on a customer. We also know that we provided assistance for the rebels which included weapons. Maybe you forgot those things, but the strategy seemed to be avoid a full on invasion by helping to arm the rebels and giving them some military strikes in lieu of using the full force of the military to invade. None of this is new, or surprising. The US sells guns and arms all over the world. We know a certain OBL was directly assisted by the US government through money and arms because he fought against russia during their afganistan invasion. There is things like Iran/contra, the gun sales to destabilize south american countries, the supply of arms to isreal and her allies, and tons of other incidents where the US has played arms dealer to many notoriously bad people. This is not Obama's creation. Would it be nice if we stopped screwing around in the world like that? Yes it would. Would it be great if obama decided to stop doing that? i think so but we know you would complain he is endangering america if he stopped playing those games. The reality is you want him to do it, you just don't want it to be him that does it because you hate him. You would criticize him both ways, and that is why people like you are hypocrites.

Kinda like a foreign version of "fast and furious". Where was Obama during the hours long seige in Benghazi???

If obama had parachuted in and single handedly saved the embassy and all it's people you would complain because of some other reason. Please don't tell us that you actually care because we know you do not care about the dead people. All you care about is complaining about obama and you will stand on the backs of those corpses to do so.
 
Sorry buddy, but I am not that gullible. Cons can try to be ambiguous about it, but we have seen your enthusiasm for the Iraq war, your excuses for Bush on ignoring warnings that might have helped stop 9/11 if he had paid attention, and the reality that 4 dead in an embassy attack is actually a pretty good record for a 2 term president considering the last half century. We know you do not like obama and hold him to a much higher standard than the failures like the Bushs', reagan, and nixon. You make it seem like this is something only he did and the rest of those guys are saints who did much better when really they failed much harder than he has in this area. If you want to do that sort of thing in the future it might be a good idea to have the conservatives stay more silent rather than being shining examples of hypocrisy in situations like this. In other words do not open your mouths and remove all doubt as to your intentions and contradictions. However, when you spend 8 years hailing Bush and praying to reagan's dead spirit it shows where you truly stand. Own it.



The truth has emerged. We know what happened. What you want is not the truth, but rather evidence of the lie that was made up. The problem with having an investigation based on an assumption of wrongdoing is that sometimes the situation and evidence is not what you assumed or wanted it to be. Was what happened due to risky actions? Of course. Was it worse than any other president? No, it actually worked out better than it has for other presidents. Interestingly the mistake of leaving the consolate with little protection also lowered the available people to die which was normally much higher for past presidents who put more people in harms way. Considering budget limitations and spending cutbacks you cannot boost support for these places. Less taxes and less spending that is promoted by the republicans means that the only available option to lower the death toll is to lower the number of people to be killed. It is simple math.



Thank you for catching up. We were selling arms to wacky kadaffi a month before the whole attack started and that was pretty public knowledge, and many news organizations questioned why we would all of a sudden turn on a customer. We also know that we provided assistance for the rebels which included weapons. Maybe you forgot those things, but the strategy seemed to be avoid a full on invasion by helping to arm the rebels and giving them some military strikes in lieu of using the full force of the military to invade. None of this is new, or surprising. The US sells guns and arms all over the world. We know a certain OBL was directly assisted by the US government through money and arms because he fought against russia during their afganistan invasion. There is things like Iran/contra, the gun sales to destabilize south american countries, the supply of arms to isreal and her allies, and tons of other incidents where the US has played arms dealer to many notoriously bad people. This is not Obama's creation. Would it be nice if we stopped screwing around in the world like that? Yes it would. Would it be great if obama decided to stop doing that? i think so but we know you would complain he is endangering america if he stopped playing those games. The reality is you want him to do it, you just don't want it to be him that does it because you hate him. You would criticize him both ways, and that is why people like you are hypocrites.



If obama had parachuted in and single handedly saved the embassy and all it's people you would complain because of some other reason. Please don't tell us that you actually care because we know you do not care about the dead people. All you care about is complaining about obama and you will stand on the backs of those corpses to do so.

The Benghazi debacle is shameful.
 
Actually two men have been held accountable. The military officers who ignored the stand down orders were both replaced. Guess the political pundits who enable Americans to be killed don't matter, but we punished the two who tried to stop it. Of course being good soldiers we don't REALLY know why they were demoted.

Of the tens of thousands of other Americans who have died in terrorist attacks or fighting terrorism why do you think only these 4 were killed by a lack of ability on the part of their bosses?

I've yet to hear a good reason for the President of SecState to willingly leave four Americans to die, but despite no reason to do so many people believed that's what happened.
 
Its really sick that the deaths of those in our foreign service are acceptable because "Bush" or anyone else for that matter did it. The best the left can come up with is - "Why Does it Matter?" Remember that hilda fans, remember it because when she wants her promotion IT WILL MATTER.


Of the tens of thousands of other Americans who have died in terrorist attacks or fighting terrorism why do you think only these 4 were killed by a lack of ability on the part of their bosses?

I've yet to hear a good reason for the President of SecState to willingly leave four Americans to die, but despite no reason to do so many people believed that's what happened.
 
Of the tens of thousands of other Americans who have died in terrorist attacks or fighting terrorism why do you think only these 4 were killed by a lack of ability on the part of their bosses?

I've yet to hear a good reason for the President of SecState to willingly leave four Americans to die, but despite no reason to do so many people believed that's what happened.

It was called a Re-Election, Party Time and Lack of Vision.....Did you happen to come up with a Link as to where Obama was at that time, you know to show he was on the Ball? Got an answer as to why Hillary never called back to check on her people, after she talked to Hicks and was told what was going on?
 
Of the tens of thousands of other Americans who have died in terrorist attacks or fighting terrorism why do you think only these 4 were killed by a lack of ability on the part of their bosses?

I've yet to hear a good reason for the President of SecState to willingly leave four Americans to die, but despite no reason to do so many people believed that's what happened.

When you are selling the idea that UBL is dead, GM is alive & well and that Al Qaeda style terror is under control then admitting that on the anniversary of 9/11 that you had defenssless a US facility in Lybia acttacked by terrorists is not going to fit that narrative very well. Obama, and his cronies, sought to create the illusion that this was a spontaneous act of movie protestors run amok or some kind of "soft terror". It only had to hold up until after the 2012 election then "at that point" it made no difference (to the Obamatrons).
 
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Its really sick that the deaths of those in our foreign service are acceptable because "Bush" or anyone else for that matter did it. The best the left can come up with is - "Why Does it Matter?" Remember that hilda fans, remember it because when she wants her promotion IT WILL MATTER.

It was called a Re-Election, Party Time and Lack of Vision.....Did you happen to come up with a Link as to where Obama was at that time, you know to show he was on the Ball? Got an answer as to why Hillary never called back to check on her people, after she talked to Hicks and was told what was going on?

When you are selling the idea that UBL is dead, GM is alive & well and that Al Qaeda style terror is under control then admitting that on the anniversary of 9/11 that you had defenssless a US facility in Lybia acttacked by terrorists is not going to fit that narrative very well. Obama, and his cronies, sought to create the allusion that this was a spontaneous act of movie protestors run amok or some kind of "soft terror". It only had to hold up until after the 2012 election then "at that point" it made no difference (to the Obamatrons).

None of these are reasons to leave them to die, how does Americans dying right before an election help one get elected? To tell me that he let them die because he was worried about re-election makes no damn sense at all. Likewise keeping the narrative that AQ is under control is not a good reason, how does it help the message that AQ style terrorism is under control if they successfully kill four Americans? Wouldn't it make more sense to rescue four Americans so they could claim no victory? Seriously, if you're thinking of how to spread the message that AQ and terrorism is under control, why would you think that letting terrorists kill four Americans would help that message?

And the narrative of a spontaneous attack, how does it help that narrative if four people are killed? Dead bodies is only going to bring more s****iny over what happened, not less. And how does whether people people were killed or not play into spontaneity? Do we think that people are more likely to die in spontaneous attacks rather than pre-planned ones, therefore they had to let four people die to carry that narrative?

Sorry but there's no good reason anybody, especially someone trying to get re-elected literally less than two months later would deliberately let this happen.

The attack on Benghazi was a tragic event, but **** happens in the world, its not the first time that an embassy or diplomatic compound has been attacked nor Americans killed while overseas. What makes this event so damn special that it deserves so much damn attention other than the fact that it makes useful political fodder?
 
Notice how the only people being held accountable for the four deaths in Benghazi are dead?

Nobody had any idea something like this could happen.
Nobody tried to help them (that didn't get killed).
Nobody knew why this happened.
Nobody still knows why this happened.
Nobody knows what the president was doing while this was happening.
Nobody knows who denied sending help.

Nobody knows anything about this but four people are cleared? Why were they ever blamed? I'd be willing to bet none of the four set/made policy or sop alone.

The former Sec of State said, "What difference does it make?". Well, she had a point. She knew NOBODY was going to be held accountable that was still alive.
 
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