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Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry' [W:245]

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Zimmerman wasn't prosecuted under hate crime legislation.
No but he was arrested only because Obama, Sharpton and Jackson got involved. There wasnt even evidence to arrest.
 
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Dude this has nothing to do with race. Would you still call them animals if the kids that were beating him up were white?
Yes it does have to do with race. Blacks are a very violent race,they never evolved as far as White's and Asian's have. Is it just a coincidence you can take White and Asian students and put them in the very same school with same teachers,etc that blacks had done horribly in and turn it around as far as test scores goes in less than 5 years yet move those black students to that white and asian school and they would turn it into a criminally infested hell hole within 5 years...same teachers same technology etc..Oh and white kids are raised in this society that OK's this violence and disrespect for each other so it wouldn't surprise me if some white students would do this but whites don't do it in packs like this no where near as much as blacks do...This has EVERYTHING to do with race.

And then, when you move to that small white town, your kid can get shot in the face by a school shooter. Yay! LOL.

You would like that wouldn't ya? Why in the hell would moving to a white town have anything to do with a school shooting? I can't wait to hear this...
 
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no, this is not about race ... at least until the race baiters show up


i suspect many of us have already formed our opinion based on racist drivel we have seen in posts

In as much as these thugs would have beat down a kid of any color for telling on them, no it is not about race but that doesn't make that better, it makes them worse.
 
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Don't kid yourself. Whites are clearly the victims of our criminal justice system being biased toward blacks.

I know, I'm white.
 
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No but he was arrested only because Obama, Sharpton and Jackson got involved. There wasnt even evidence to arrest.

Not true...Sanford Police asked the state attorney's office for an arrest warrant to charge Zimmerman early in the investigation but the state's attorney's office decided to wait. The police report labeled the case as "homicide/negligent manslaughter".

We don't need another Zimmerman/Martin case. I'm tired of talking about it.

Hate crimes are something specific and not...not every white person that beats up a black person or even kills a black person is charged with a hate crime.
 
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You would like that wouldn't ya? Why in the hell would moving to a white town have anything to do with a school shooting? I can't wait to hear this...
Well, why the hell would moving to a non-white town have anything to do with being beat up?
 
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Sounds to me like the guy is not that articulate. "That is just the way it is" could be an attempt to express, "I wish I could change the past, but I can't" or "No matter how you try to teach your kids to be good people, they meet up with bad people who have greater influence in getting your kid to do bad things."

I really cannot judge him one way or the other on the quote. My parents were the same people who raised both straight A students and kids who were holy terrors. What went on behind closed doors to try to get the holy terrors to not be that way was no lack of effort on their part. There are just limits to how much parents can do, especially with kids are who easily swayed by peer pressure or are inclined to be rebellious no matter how you punish them or how often.

While it may be true he is a good parent and just has a weak kid, I want to know what he means by this.

"All I can say is that he had his consequences already, you know?
 
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What's to explain?

You indicated that you are in favor of age restrictions on children for things like drinking alcohol, gambling and voting? We are waiting to find out what the basis of your support is? What it is about children that you believe is a rational basis for banning them from these activities?

Drinking, gambling are not good vices for anyone. Much less a minor.
Voting is reserved for those who supposedly actuall pay taxes.
Minors dont pay taxes. Except sales tax.
You are making the wrong arguement.
Underage soldiers in many states cant drink, but they are adults.
You just dont want these animals punished. Pray tell, what part of the justice system do you work. Parole?
More coddling of more criminals is not the answer.
 
Re: Father of teen charged in Florida school bus beating says son is 'sorry'

What's to explain?

You indicated that you are in favor of age restrictions on children for things like drinking alcohol, gambling and voting? We are waiting to find out what the basis of your support is? What it is about children that you believe is a rational basis for banning them from these activities?

Oh cmon. You know the violent felons of a young age laugh at and use folks like you who let them commit adult crimes and get off with a slap on the wrist. They're immune and know it. Has nothing whatsoever to do with whatever else they legally can or cannot do at their age. Even 15 year olds should be exposed to adult consequences for aggravated assault.
 
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Pretty sure the guys who barb wired that gay kid, and the ones who dragged that black guy were all white.

What's your point? None of those were teenagers. The homosexual his name was Mathew Shepard came onto the guys and it set them off totally understandable. The other 2 morons you are talking about were drug addled criminals.Had already been to prison before and had nothing better to do than murder a black guy for the hell of it. Again adults...again raised in this society where violence is OK'ed and encouraged and is on TV all day long...white's are not inherently animal like and are taught these things to bring us down to the level of the black race. There are idiots in every race but as a whole when your race only constitutes 12% of the population yet over half the prison population I say there is a problem with your race.
 
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These kids should have to serve time in juvi for what they did. That was a serious assault and three on one! If they don't get punished severely, what kind of adults are they going to be?

Are you sure juvi would be punishment?

That is a place they can learn to get away with it next time.

I say house arrest with the relative in their family they hate the most.
 
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Pretty sure the guys who barb wired that gay kid, and the ones who dragged that black guy were all white.

Adults, and their sentence was?
 
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Well, why the hell would moving to a non-white town have anything to do with being beat up?

More civilized place. Blacks are a violent racist race. They attack in packs much like dogs do. Like I said never had this problem in ANY town I have lived in and since I was 18 I have made an effort to make sure I lived in white towns and even more so now that I have kids its for their safety and the safety of my wife when she and the kids are at the park or store or she gets off late from work and most definitely in school for my kids.
 
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Anything Asheville and west. I live 70 miles west of Asheville. Never had a problem like this here.

I never had this problem either and I grew up in Los Angeles. So by your logic, I am safe in LA.


Oh I was picked on by white kids as well and I am white.This wasn't being picked on,this was attempted murder. Its typical in any non white majority area.

REALLY ????

 
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For one, I would place them in an environment where they are required to take care of something or someone. Nothing rehabilitates like concern for something besides yourself. Make them work in an animal shelter, taking care of abandoned animals. Teach them how to grow plants, and work the natural environment.

Oh I wouldn't put them anywhere near animals.
 
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What's your point? None of those were teenagers. The homosexual his name was Mathew Shepard came onto the guys and it set them off totally understandable..

Yeah...totally understandable :roll:
 
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More civilized place. Blacks are a violent racist race. They attack in packs much like dogs do. Like I said never had this problem in ANY town I have lived in and since I was 18 I have made an effort to make sure I lived in white towns and even more so now that I have kids its for their safety and the safety of my wife when she and the kids are at the park or store or she gets off late from work and most definitely in school for my kids.

Riiiigght. Because we all know that historically whites are a non-violent non-racist race :roll:
 
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Oh cmon. You know the violent felons of a young age laugh at and use folks like you who let them commit adult crimes and get off with a slap on the wrist. They're immune and know it. Has nothing whatsoever to do with whatever else they legally can or cannot do at their age. Even 15 year olds should be exposed to adult consequences for aggravated assault.
See, he is someone that gets gamed on a daily basis and dont see it.
I am not too worried, those three will be in prison or dead in a matter of 3-5 years.
I'd put money on it.
 
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You have GOT to be kidding here? The father saying "I'm sorry for what happened to the victim, but that's just the way it is?" What the hell is that?

Sorry, but these kids, all three of them should be charged as adults, and serve time.

What say you?

What is your objective? To punish them so you feel good or take steps that will best help to assure they do not do something like this again?
 
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Good lord! It must be horrifying to endure all that suffering!

Yes, it is, but my Mexican wife is here to help me cope.
 
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And what does this make you????

isolated
 
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What is your objective? To punish them so you feel good or take steps that will best help to assure they do not do something like this again?

Cant do it again if they are in jail. And if they beat up another prisoner or get beat up? So what, who cares? Not me.
Make examples of them. Its about time.
 
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Adults, and their sentence was?

I know in the dragging case it was at least 1 death penalty and 1 life sentence give me a minute and I can look it all up.Brewer was executed 2 years ago,Another remains on death row and the 3rd is serving life. In the shepard case. Both people in the Shepard case got life sentences. They should have been found not guilty of felony murder maybe involuntary manslaughter at best. The jury obviously didn't believe their temp insanity defense because Shepard wanted to have sex with the men and they freaked and killed him...
 
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More civilized place. Blacks are a violent racist race. They attack in packs much like dogs do. Like I said never had this problem in ANY town I have lived in and since I was 18 I have made an effort to make sure I lived in white towns and even more so now that I have kids its for their safety and the safety of my wife when she and the kids are at the park or store or she gets off late from work and most definitely in school for my kids.
Wow. Please get the **** out of my country.
 
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