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Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

So you're saying that Zimmer is once again wrong? That a movie about killing Bush did get significant press even though very few people watched it?

He's absolutely wrong. The film received its fair amount of infamy with the mainstream press, as well as mainstream movie critics. It was controversial enough for the creators to somehow sidestep that they were rooting for the sitting President to be the victim, by stating some nonsense about how it was just a mental exercise about the actions and reactions to the plot's execution. The attention may have been a brief number of weeks, but this clown would probably receive almost as lengthy of review, if the clown in question were somehow able to do his routine numerous times months from now like the film.
 
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Death of a President (2006 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That film?

That's the best you can come up with?

A private British Film barely showed at all in the US (a mere 143 theaters for 2 weeks) is the same thing as a state fair where a rodeo clown suggested in front of a huge audience that Obama should be killed? Hell, barely anyone saw this movie in America.

Try again.

I see you don't like the comparison and try to dismiss it. Typical of you.

Let's see... the film may not have been popular, but it did receive press... and no negative press from the leftists in the press, and nobody spoke about banning any of the participants or creators from unions or guilds.

But... put a rodeo clown in an Obama mask and we end up with a serious problem from leftists and other twits.

The film won a total of 6 awards including;
the International Critics Prize (FIPRESCI) from the 2006 Toronto Film Festival,[22]
the International Emmy Award for the TV Movie/Mini-Series category in the (UK),
the RTS Television Award in the Digital Channel Programme category from the Royal Television Society,
the RTBF TV Prize for Best Picture Award from the Brussels European Film Festival for director Gabriel Range,
the Banff Rockie Award from the Banff Television Festival for the film, and one for director Gabriel Range.
The film also received a nomination for Best Visual Effects from the British Academy TV Awards in 2007.[23]

Death of a President (2006 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not only was the film celebrated by leftists, but we didn't find any denunciation or front page news in the press.

Back to the drawing board for you.
 
Huh. Appears the whole fair only gets around 350,000 people for 11 days. That's actually kind of sad.

Alright, fair enough, not that big of a crowd. Maybe a 1,000 tops? Still wrong for an entertainer at a state fair to call for effectively either seriously injuring or killing the President.

The asked if they wanted to see Obama get run down... not get killed and not seriously injured. You see... it wasn't Obama behind the mask (unlike his skit during SNL where Obama donned a mask of himself)... it was a professional rodeo clown. An expert at bull management.

And frankly watching Obama run at a rodeo would be hilarious... especially for those that dislike his politics, and even for those rare Libs that love his politics and have a sense of humor. But... that breed of Lib is rare.
 
So you're saying that Zimmer is once again wrong? That a movie about killing Bush did get significant press even though very few people watched it?
ROTFLOL... YOU are the one that's wrong... again... but you try and lie, twist and deceive your way out of it. As usual.

He's absolutely wrong. The film received its fair amount of infamy with the mainstream press, as well as mainstream movie critics. It was controversial enough for the creators to somehow sidestep that they were rooting for the sitting President to be the victim, by stating some nonsense about how it was just a mental exercise about the actions and reactions to the plot's execution. The attention may have been a brief number of weeks, but this clown would probably receive almost as lengthy of review, if the clown in question were somehow able to do his routine numerous times months from now like the film.

Obvious Child is up to his twisting and deceiving once again. Why do you have such difficulty with the truth?

I accurately summed up the popularity of that movie, and he tries deserately to twist it into something else... as usual.

Here is what I wrote:

I can find movie based on the assassination of Bush 43, and leftists responding with applause about the flick. I didn't notice front page news, and I didn't notice this being a national story that resulted in the actors, producers or directors being dragged through the muck publicly and blackballed.

1. The story created some news... NOT FRONT PAGE NEWS.
2. The story did not result in some national media backlash.
3. The story did not result in actors, directors, producers being blackballed or banned by the unions or guilds.
4. The story did not result in state senators with tons of face time on TV.

This Obvious Child is why I say you are a prevaricator and twist reality ... try at least once to be honest... it would do DP good, for constantly having to unwind your lies and deceits is boring.
 
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I will concede on the first of your four, but there is a caveat here too. I have neither seen the front page of most websites or newspapers that carried the story. The majority of the coverage I saw and read was through already linked mainstream news media coverage. So, I do recall a decent amount of attention paid to it by national media outlets on television at the time, and I do recall stories through newspapers, but I do not know the location of the story in each newspaper for the rodeo clown or Death of a President.

That's not really true. For one thing, even though the NYT did not spend much time covering this particular event, CNN and NPR had announced that they were not going to advertise the film due to its extreme content. The film, however, was shown on TV, but not in the states (for obvious reasons).

I haven't followed the careers of any involved in the film. I couldn't speak to any rejection or increase in fame as a result of the film. From what I could recall, the cast members were fairly no-name actors, and the film was even at times dubbed a bore. Despite creating a shock piece he ridiculously tried to side step, I don't believe the director had really done much afterward. It was probably the shock piece that got him notoriety, however brief.

All in all, the film was rejected for its content, and justifiably so.
 
Actually it did happen. That's why it made the news. The rodeo clown at a state fair suggested to the crowd that Obama should be run down by a bull which can and has been fatal. The rodeo clown effectively suggested that Obama should be killed at a state event. You can lie all you want (and boy you do that all the time), but it doesn't change the fact that is exactly what happened.



Cite, or you're a liar.



Hence my point about you lying.



Obama clown at Missouri State Fair draws criticism - POLITICO.com

Do you deny that the rodeo clown suggested to the crowd that Obama should be run down by a bull? People can and have been seriously injured and killed from bulls doing exactly that. Let's see just how far you are willing to lie.



So you think that a bulls running down people never results in deaths? That the possibility of that is low to non-existent? Hell even J-Mac and Lowdown realize they can't argue against this.



And once again Zimmer fails to meet the basic requirements.

Color me...not surprised.
Bush Assassination Film Applauded at Festival | Movie News | Hollywood.com



Yeah because people can't get killed by being run down by a bull ....oops and oops again and oops a third time

Zimmer, wrong as usual.


LOL.

Nothing like an Obama supporter. Twist, spin, show ignorance, misrepresent and everything else. All for the cause of supporting an incompetent.

LOL. How many dummies have bulls ever killed? How many dummies have bulls ever injured? So you think bulls running down dummies results in deaths? LOL.

I don't know how old you are but where have you been, lets say the last ten years on this rodeo clown issue? The exact same skit gets pulled countless times each year but they call the dummy something besides Obama. Never heard any idiot complain about it, until now.

Everybody gets the joke every time except now? LOL. It's hilarious watching and listening to a bunch of idiots try to make this into something it's not. Keep it up leftists, it's the best comedy show around right now. At least until you have to try to provide absurd cover again for our incompetent President. We won't be waiting long on that.
 
Huh. Appears the whole fair only gets around 350,000 people for 11 days. That's actually kind of sad.

Alright, fair enough, not that big of a crowd. Maybe a 1,000 tops? Still wrong for an entertainer at a state fair to call for effectively either seriously injuring or killing the President.



LOL. Over and over and over at you.

So the rodeo clown, an "entertainer" even by your words, calls for "effectively either seriously injuring or killing the President" by a bull? LOL. It is crystal clear you have been watching to many reruns of Mr. Ed.

Just so you will know, the bull had no clue as to what the rodeo clown said or who the rodeo clown was even talking about. The bull also had no idea that the dummy was part of a skit And lets also make sure you know, the President, he was no where around the rodeo arena. So unless the bull had the capabilities of Mr Ed, like you are foolishly trying to pretend he has, and the bull was prepared to charge the President in DC all the way from MO, the President was perfectly safe. And to put your mind at further ease, the FBI agreed, it was a joke.

Lay off the Mr. Ed reruns for awhile. Probably wouldn't hurt you to cut back on the cartoon channel as well. It's all smoke and mirror's TV, just like our President.
 
Praying. Now, would like you like to tell us how a video is a representation of EVERYONE again?

Everyone? I didn't say everyone. Matter of fact, I asked a simple question, which indicates that I don't know who does, and who doesn't. Elementary really.

However, it is telling to me to observe how, and who is upset by the inquiry.
 
Seems everyone has got their panties up in wad over this.

The simple fact is that the clown was working as an employee of the Missouri State Fair Commission and one has to abide by their rules and standards. This is seen in many companies. I just don't think the state fair commission wants to have any of their employees or contracted employees being risque or any way offending people. They actually want "everyone"to come and spend money at their fairs.
I don't see anything wrong if he performs his Obama mask routine at other venues as comedians make fun of politicians all the time. But this was the wrong venue.

Is it really that hard to understand?
 
Seems everyone has got their panties up in wad over this.

The simple fact is that the clown was working as an employee of the Missouri State Fair Commission and one has to abide by their rules and standards. This is seen in many companies. I just don't think the state fair commission wants to have any of their employees or contracted employees being risque or any way offending people. They actually want "everyone"to come and spend money at their fairs.
I don't see anything wrong if he performs his Obama mask routine at other venues as comedians make fun of politicians all the time. But this was the wrong venue.

Is it really that hard to understand?

Well hold on just a minute. For years and years liberals have insisted that publicly funded art galleries, museums and such display very objectionable art. None of it intended as a joke that reasonable and aware people find funny, instead this art is all designed to offend. And talk about being "risqué" much of it.

I never heard a liberal complaining about any of that. Only when the joke is about Obama. And Obama himself goes out of his way to make sure he offends people.

So, you know what they say about people that can't take a joke?
 
Well hold on just a minute. For years and years liberals have insisted that publicly funded art galleries, museums and such display very objectionable art. None of it intended as a joke that reasonable and aware people find funny, instead this art is all designed to offend. And talk about being "risqué" much of it.

I never heard a liberal complaining about any of that. Only when the joke is about Obama. And Obama himself goes out of his way to make sure he offends people.

So, you know what they say about people that can't take a joke?

Am not defending some of the stuff they offer at art galleries. There is a lot of stuff passed off as "art" that I would toss in the back of the pickup on the next trip to the dump.
The BS piece of art that had a crucifix in a jar of urine was pathetic and I can bet you anything the Missouri State Fair Commission would also kick the crucifix in the urine out of the art show too.

You might be able to put up some of the bizarre stuff such as the jar of urine at the art gallery but a state fair is a totally different area. Wrong venue.
 
Now the NAACP is attempting to call this a "hate crime."

I'm getting real sick of all these blacks crying racism -- and it's only blacks. I hardly ever see a non-black cry racism.
 
I see you don't like the comparison and try to dismiss it. Typical of you.

It's not even a valid comparison. A small film viewed by a few thousand people, with barely any coverage in the US is the same thing as a state funded fair with a sizable audience where an entertaining suggested that Obama should be seriously injured or killed?

Hardly. The. Same. Thing.

Let's see... the film may not have been popular, but it did receive press... and no negative press from the leftists in the press, and nobody spoke about banning any of the participants or creators from unions or guilds.

Fiddytree just pointed out you were wrong. It did receive quite some press, mostly bad.

But... put a rodeo clown in an Obama mask and we end up with a serious problem from leftists and other twits.

I don't find it surprising that you think state events should allow people to advocate for killing the President.

Not only was the film celebrated by leftists, but we didn't find any denunciation or front page news in the press.

Back to the drawing board for you.

Fiddytree says you're wrong (as you always are).

The asked if they wanted to see Obama get run down... not get killed and not seriously injured.

Wow. That's some extreme cognitive mental gymnastics. You are now arguing that bulls do not kill people and you can't be seriously injured by a bull. Maybe you if you used Google, you'd see "man kills bull" gets over 13 million hits. Your "logic" and I use that term loosely, only works in a world were bulls don't kill or injury people. But then again, you are the least honest person on the forum.

You see... it wasn't Obama behind the mask (unlike his skit during SNL where Obama donned a mask of himself)... it was a professional rodeo clown. An expert at bull management.

Endless Zimmer Fail. They were eluding to seeing the actual President getting run down.

And frankly watching Obama run at a rodeo would be hilarious... especially for those that dislike his politics, and even for those rare Libs that love his politics and have a sense of humor. But... that breed of Lib is rare.

Oh this is rich. It's hilarious how you were always a huge Bush Fan, but you can't stand it when someone with a D after their name does the same things as him. Obama is a liberal purely because he's a Democrat...despite being nothing more than Bush's 3rd and 4th Term.

I accurately summed up the popularity of that movie, and he tries deserately to twist it into something else... as usual.

This Obvious Child is why I say you are a prevaricator and twist reality ... try at least once to be honest... it would do DP good, for constantly having to unwind your lies and deceits is boring.

Again, this is why you are the #1 Dishonest Poster. I asked for a specific example. You failed to even get close. Then you accuse me of being of being a liar when I pointed out you didn't meet the initial requirements.
 
LOL.

Nothing like an Obama supporter. Twist, spin, show ignorance, misrepresent and everything else. All for the cause of supporting an incompetent.

UBER FAIL!

Try again. FYI, this is the second time I';ve posted this after partisan hackjobs accuse me of being an Obama supporter. You should do some basic research on people you pull wild accusations on. You look really foolish right now.

LOL. How many dummies have bulls ever killed? How many dummies have bulls ever injured? So you think bulls running down dummies results in deaths? LOL.

Google Returns 14 MILLION results for Bull Kills Man

That's pretty embarrassing you didn't even Google before opening your mouth. I also linked three articles/videos of bulls doing just that. And if you think it's so unlikely, how about we put you in a small area with a raging bull? Afraid yet?

Your partisan hackery is showing and it's raging out of control.

I don't know how old you are but where have you been, lets say the last ten years on this rodeo clown issue? The exact same skit gets pulled countless times each year but they call the dummy something besides Obama. Never heard any idiot complain about it, until now.

How many rodeo events allude to a real person rather than the rodeo clown?

Everybody gets the joke every time except now? LOL. It's hilarious watching and listening to a bunch of idiots try to make this into something it's not. Keep it up leftists, it's the best comedy show around right now. At least until you have to try to provide absurd cover again for our incompetent President. We won't be waiting long on that.

See the question above. You're going to fail.
 
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LOL. Over and over and over at you.

I'm going to have fun with you. You don't bother to do anything but let your rampant partisan hackery run wild.

So the rodeo clown, an "entertainer" even by your words, calls for "effectively either seriously injuring or killing the President" by a bull? LOL. It is crystal clear you have been watching to many reruns of Mr. Ed.

For someone who allegedly hangs out at rodeos, you seem extremely unaware of how powerful a bull is. Which is embarrassing, but a sign of partisan hackery.

Just so you will know, the bull had no clue as to what the rodeo clown said or who the rodeo clown was even talking about. The bull also had no idea that the dummy was part of a skit And lets also make sure you know, the President, he was no where around the rodeo arena. So unless the bull had the capabilities of Mr Ed, like you are foolishly trying to pretend he has, and the bull was prepared to charge the President in DC all the way from MO, the President was perfectly safe. And to put your mind at further ease, the FBI agreed, it was a joke.

If course it was a joke. Did anyone argue otherwise? And what the bulls think is irrelevant. Jesus Christ the quality of new users have dropped like a rock.
 
I didn't even vote for the mother****er last year. Try your strawmen elsewhere.

You can tell who is the raging partisan hack when they accuse you of ridiculous partisan worship merely because you're not 100% in lockstep with their beliefs. I've noticed the recent string of new users leaves much to be desired. I'm getting called an Obama supporter merely because I find certain behavior offensive to the office, regardless of who's in power. One user attempted this on me, I posted my 2012 ballot and he got the hell out of the thread. I guess many of them aren't capable of understanding that some people are independent and don't drink the kool-aid. It's also super embarrassing when you accuse someone who just argued that Obama is Bush's 3rd and 4th term of being a diehard Obama supporter.

See this guy:

LOL.

Nothing like an Obama supporter.

I guess he thinks that someone who didn't vote for him and thinks Obama is just Bush is "an Obama supporter"

The quality of new users have dropped like a rock recently.
 
Seems everyone has got their panties up in wad over this.

The simple fact is that the clown was working as an employee of the Missouri State Fair Commission and one has to abide by their rules and standards. This is seen in many companies. I just don't think the state fair commission wants to have any of their employees or contracted employees being risque or any way offending people. They actually want "everyone"to come and spend money at their fairs.
I don't see anything wrong if he performs his Obama mask routine at other venues as comedians make fun of politicians all the time. But this was the wrong venue.

Is it really that hard to understand?

You're 100% wrong...

This clowns civil rights were violated -- that's all that matters...

Oh, and I personally wish we lived in world where people could be fired "just because" however, that's NOT our present reality...
 
What if I owned a business and fired someone for being progressive, being gay, being a Al Sharpton wannabe or just being an asshole???

I wonder if progressives would defend that?
 
I refuse to play stupid semantic games. This isn't the first go around with you.

Please!! It is you who is playing 'semantic games' by refusing to quote what I actually said and instead providing your own misleading interpretation.
I don't disagree with that. Why do righties spend so much time fighting strawmen? Is it really that much easier?

Then why did the guy get fired or banned. Don't then attempt to defend the indefensible.

Why does it matter? You call everything you don't like "leftist."

Again, you are making it up as you go along.

I did not say that he should be fired or banned from anything. Just once in your life, forget about strawmen and read.

OK, Read this last paragraph again and tell me where I said you said he should be fired or banned. Can you do that? Unless you use the quote system properly, sites like this will never work.
 
I don't see how you can make this claim? What exactly do you think the rodeo clown was trying to say other than he dislikes (or dare I say hates) Pres. Obama? Frankly, I find it very cowardice for people to hide behind "free speech" when all they've done was show blatant disrespect for the President of the United States no matter who he is or from whatever political party he affiliates.

What evidence do you have that their was any "hatred" expressed anywhere? Do you think this was the first time entertainers have made fun of Presidents? Are you not aware the comedians showed 'dsrespect' towards George W. Bush, as well as his predecessors?
To this claim that "liberals" get all butt-hurt whenever anyone from the opposing party challenges a claim of being disrespectful towards "their" President, I think people know bad behavior when they see it. But for the record, I don't consider myself a liberal nor a Democrat although I do identify more with the Democrat Party than I do the Republican Party.

No kidding.
 
I don't know your media habits....but....if you are one of the Limbaugh-ese, or the Beckians, or the Hannitians....perhaps the treatment of Bush was overblown by folks who get paid big bucks to be outraged on the air.

I'm 48 years old and never treated a sitting President with the kind of disrespect that the right shows Obama. I've disagreed with policies and ideology.....even poked some good natured fun(which is what this whole clown thing pretty much is) at them....but I've never seen hatred and vitriol like it is now.

Perhaps with Nixon....but being born in '65, I was too young to experience it.

I'll guess you are not a professional comedian.
 
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