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Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?[W:395]

Well, not a fair, but there was a movie...oh, and a national liberal radio host on the no longer in business "air America" host.

Which is the same crap happening to Obama.

At least you're honest enough to admit it didn't happen. Lowdown is (once again dishonestly) trying to cast movies, talk radio and banner ads as "a local state sponsored fair, an entertainer in front of a big crowd openly suggested that Bush should be killed to the audience."
 
I think the Obama-mask clown should run for the GOP's nominee for president. He's more qualified than most GOP candidates. And his profession makes him a true conservative.

And if he were a Black clown in Texas wearing a Perry mask, he could now be on death row.
 
And if he were a Black clown in Texas wearing a Perry mask, he could now be on death row.

With that woman Davis down there making all that noise, it would be a wonder he would ever be born.
 
With that woman Davis down there making all that noise, it would be a wonder he would ever be born.

But if a minority was born in Texas, from your post, you would call them a waste on society. Why do you folks only support the fetus until it is born?
 
But if a minority was born in Texas, from your post, you would call them a waste on society. Why do you folks only support the fetus until it is born?

LOL. Liberal, liberal, liberal. It's always, race, gender, sexual orientation. On everything.

Anybody that can read and not be a liberal will see that you (as all liberals do) are the one that brought up race in the example you provided. Not once, but twice. I don't think that Davis woman cares one way or the other how many babies of a particular color get murdered via abortion, as long as they get murdered by abortion.

I supported my kids when they were born. I don't owe anybody else anything. However if a person is having problems and needs help (over the years it's happened several times) with themselves and family, I've helped. Provided they were trying to help themselves.

Useless people that are incapable of thought, the same type that pretend to know what I would say about someone, I wouldn't do squat for. They are to dumb to appreciate anything anyway.
 
No, it was clearly free speech.

I don't see how you can make this claim? What exactly do you think the rodeo clown was trying to say other than he dislikes (or dare I say hates) Pres. Obama? Frankly, I find it very cowardice for people to hide behind "free speech" when all they've done was show blatant disrespect for the President of the United States no matter who he is or from whatever political party he affiliates.

How many times was George Bush hanged, burned in effigy, etc., during his Presidency, I wonder? Probably dozens of times at various protests. Nobody interpreted this as a threat against the President, not even Bush's supporters that I know of. But here we have Obama's supporters going crazy, trampling free speech under foot in a desperate attempt to salvage some dignity for the big Zero. The smell of fear and desperation is unmistakable. You guys ought to be ashamed that you are willing to give up our civil rights for that Clown.

This brouhaha over the rodeo clown is a manifestation of Obama's Cult of Personality, and you all ought to SNAP OUT OF IT.

To this claim that "liberals" get all butt-hurt whenever anyone from the opposing party challenges a claim of being disrespectful towards "their" President, I think people know bad behavior when they see it. But for the record, I don't consider myself a liberal nor a Democrat although I do identify more with the Democrat Party than I do the Republican Party. I like to think I can see the good and the bad within both parties. I take the better qualities of both and try to shape my ideology around those issues. For example, I don't like the continuous dependency on social programs by some segments of the population, but I can understand how many people would struggle to have their survival needs met without these programs. I think we as a nation can met the needs of those in need without maintaining a revolving door to such benefits. Nevertheless, I call inappropriate behavior what it is no matter what side of the political divide the behavior stems from. For example, when the Iraqi tossed a shoe at GWB during a press conference he held in Iraq, I thought it was disrespectful. Moreover, it was dangerous! What if it had been a knife instead? I may not have liked him much as President, but I certainly didn't want to see him get hurt. And that's where I'm coming from with this clown issue.

He may have been attempting to convey to the crowd his displeasure with President Obama, but he could have shown it in a much more appropriate way. This wasn't a man trying to be funny. This was a man trying to stir the crowd to anger. This wasn't a man making jokes. This was a man attempting to mock the President of the United States. No matter what he may have thought of his policies or the direction he believes the President is taking the country in, there are better more appropriate ways to be funny yet not be disrespectful of the President of the United States.

What? You've already forgotten Assassination Chic?

An entire book chapter with numerous examples explored the popular genre of “Kill Bush” literature, talk radio rhetoric, and art on the Left devoted to fantasies about murdering President Bush and Republicans.

Liberals didn't think it was such a big deal at the time.

As an aside, between 1976 and 2004 I really wasn't as into politics during that period as I am now. Of course, I had so many other things taking place in my life back then - finishing high school, serving my country on active duty in the Navy, taking care of my young family, etc. But since 2004, I've paid closer attention to the political wrangling of the day, and I must admit I don't like the hyper-partisanship I see every day. I've often wondered why can't a person simple call out a wrong without being labeled a liberal whinny-ass or a conservative blowhard?
 
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I think the Obama-mask clown should run for the GOP's nominee for president. He's more qualified than most GOP candidates. And his profession makes him a true conservative.

You're just a funny little dickens, yes you are. :lol:
 
I don't see how you can make this claim? What exactly do you think the rodeo clown was trying to say other than he dislikes (or dare I say hates) Pres. Obama? Frankly, I find it very cowardice for people to hide behind "free speech" when all they've done was show blatant disrespect for the President of the United States no matter who he is or from whatever political party he affiliates.



To this claim that "liberals" get all butt-hurt whenever anyone from the opposing party challenges a claim of being disrespectful towards "their" President, I think people know bad behavior when they see it. But for the record, I don't consider myself a liberal nor a Democrat although I do identify more with the Democrat Party than I do the Republican Party. I like to think I can see the good and the bad within both parties. I take the better qualities of both and try to shape my ideology around those issues. For example, I don't like the continuous dependency on social programs by some segments of the population, but I can understand how many people would struggle to have their survival needs met without these programs. I think we as a nation can met the needs of those in need without maintaining a revolving door to such benefits. Nevertheless, I call inappropriate behavior what it is no matter what side of the political divide the behavior stems from. For example, when the Iraqi tossed a shoe at GWB during a press conference he held in Iraq, I thought it was disrespectful. Moreover, it was dangerous! What if it had been a knife instead? I may not have liked him much as President, but I certainly didn't want to see him get hurt. And that's where I'm coming from with this clown issue.

He may have been attempting to convey to the crowd his displeasure with President Obama, but he could have shown it in a much more appropriate way. This wasn't a man trying to be funny. This was a man trying to stir the crowd to anger. This wasn't a man making jokes. This was a man attempting to mock the President of the United States. No matter what he may have thought of his policies or the direction he believes the President is taking the country in, there are better more appropriate ways to be funny yet not be disrespectful of the President of the United States.



As an aside, between 1976 and 2004 I really wasn't as into politics during that period as I am now. Of course, I had so many other things taking place in my life back then - finishing high school, serving my country on active duty in the Navy, taking care of my young family, etc. But since 2004, I've paid closer attention to the political wrangling of the day, and I must admit I don't like the hyper-partisanship I see every day. I've often wondered why can't a person simple call out a wrong without being labeled a liberal whinny-ass or a conservative blowhard?

Great post. I respected GWB's authority as the general will of the people. I even voted for him the first time around over Gore. I was GOP back then, but I always voted my conscience, regardless of party affiliation....but I, like you, identified more with the Democratic party.

After Bush's first four years, I became somewhat displeased with his performance. Homeland Security was a big one for me....we had the NSA, the CIA, and the FBI.....we pretty much had our bases covered...if they wanted to start a joint task force and needed personnel....great, hire them...but don't create a new bureaucracy. But overall, I think he did a respectable, if not admirable job with 9/11...that was a tough situation with the entire nation in mourning and demanding justice.

But, I digress....Bush's second election....I voted for Kerry. By that time, we were deep into Iraq and treating Afghanistan as the red headed stepchild, that was the actual homebase for Bin Laden to carry out 9/11. Then there was Katrina. My sister lived in Louisiana at the time....up North in the Alexandria area. She's an RN and took a three week unpaid leave to help the folks down in New Orleans....the stuff she told me was horrific. She also told me first hand information about the hard hit 9th Ward that I never even thought about.

The homes in the 9th ward were mostly built by factory and industrial workers who retired in the 60's, 70's and 80's.....as they died off, they willed those properties to their kids. By the time Katrina hit....those good paying factory and industrial jobs were long gone and you had a lot of people living in their childhood homes with little income to spare for things such as.....HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE. If you go down to the 9th Ward to this very day....it's still a ghost town.

That got me thinking about my political affiliation....but what sealed the deal for me was a little later on....with a slur among GOP members. That slur was RINO. That just plain pissed me off and was the beginning of the extremism I see in the Republican Party today. That was when I filled out a new registration card and went to the Democratic Party. I still vote my conscience and not with the Party line.....but I lean more towards Dems now than I ever have.
 
If one of the entertainers in the middle of the state show openly suggested that Bush be essentially murdered, yes it would be national front page news.
Your scenario didn't happen with at the rodeo, but it did with Bush 43 and it NEVER made front page news. It was a joyous discussion piece among Leftists though.

Raging partisan like you are leaving that out because you are dishonestly trying to make it seems like they were just making some innocent fun at Obama. I don't expect anything you say these days to be even remotely honest, but it's a new level of dishonesty, even for you.
ROTFLOL... this coming from the master of lies and deceit? The individual best known on DP for putting words in other folks mouths they never stated. For twisting what people write.

There is a major difference between poking fun at the President and suggesting that the President should be killed.
Find me the story where they suggested Obama be killed.

Can you point to a single event between 2000 and 2008, where at a local state sponsored fair, an entertainer in front of a big crowd openly suggested that Bush should be killed to the audience? Try. Use Google.
reality check: Ugh... doh...Homer... that was a man wearing an Obama mask. Nobody was asking to see Obama killed. Find me the story where that was the main thrust.

I can find movie based on the assassination of Bush 43, and leftists responding with applause about the flick. I didn't notice front page news, and I didn't notice this being a national story that resulted in the actors, producers or directors being dragged through the muck publicly and blackballed.
Bush Assassination Film Applauded at Festival | Movie News | Hollywood.com

As for google... did you try... "obama rodeo clown kill obama"? Brings nada. How about... "crowd at rodeo wants Obama killed"... brings nada.

Back to the drawing board for you.
 
It was a Missouri state fair who fired a guy for going out on his own to make a highly inappropriate joke. I would have fired him too.

Jawohl! Wis ours shtait faihr... sehr ist no leavink zee skripts? Komedi musst be passt sroo zee burro ov propaganda approovals.

Wee haf tolerating kein ekceptshuns!
 
He may have been attempting to convey to the crowd his displeasure with President Obama, but he could have shown it in a much more appropriate way. This wasn't a man trying to be funny. This was a man trying to stir the crowd to anger. This wasn't a man making jokes. This was a man attempting to mock the President of the United States. No matter what he may have thought of his policies or the direction he believes the President is taking the country in, there are better more appropriate ways to be funny yet not be disrespectful of the President of the United States.

I think he was trying to be funny and was pretty effective, most of the crowd was laughing. Sorry, people don't go to Rodeo's to get mad and angry, an Obama campaign event maybe but not a rodeo. I thought it was funny, I took the joke well.

If he was trying to mock the President, so what? It's been done since our country started out and I have no doubt as soon as the loser Obama is out of office it will be done again. The Obama administration loves to regulate just about everything. Perhaps you could show everyone where the approved list of jokes or skits against Obama is and who is authorized to tell them? For some reason I don't think the very thin skinned Obama crowd has such a list as their over reaction on everything about the man wouldn't allow it.

I've been to many rodeo's over the years and have witnessed the rodeo clowns perform the same type skits on all kinds of different people. Laughed everytime. Never once heard a complaint until now. The whining goes beyond the sickness of political correctness. Protecting a proven disaster doesn't make him any less the disaster.
 
I wonder how many people have seen the video from the point where the "Obama dummy" is set out to the point where the bull actually comes out? If you haven't you really don't know the full story here. If you have and you're standing behind the "freedom of speech/it was a joke" defense, then you're really not being honest about what actually took place.

This was not a joke, folks. This was someone who clearly is anti-Obama who thought he was being funny by setting what appeared to be a dummy-figure wearing an Obama mask propped up by a broomstick (conveniently positioned right up his) in the rodeo arena. The announcer introduces the dummy as "Obama" and goes on to ask the crowd if they'd like to see Obama get run down by the bull. What's funny about that?

It would've been "funny" if the rodeo clown wearing the mask had suddenly come to life and started running around the arena flipping his ears because as we all know and can agree on President Obama does have some big ears. He's even made fun of them himself. It would've been "funny" if the Obama rodeo clown wore an "ObamaCare bullseye" on his butt while teasing the bull to chase him. That atleast would have been in keeping with what rodeo clowns do. But instead what you had was the announcer encouraging the crowd to want to see the figurative President Obama hurt by being run down by a bull.

That's not funny. It's not even close to exercising free speech. This act was in very poor taste and it doesn't take a Liberal or Conservative/Democrat or Republican to see that. In any case, for those who haven't seen an extended version of the video, you can view it from this website.


Pretty funny to me. The same skit has been done a million times at rodeo's over the years. the same one. Gets laughs every time because the crowd is smart enough to know the dummy is a dummy. I've seen the 'dummy' be local politicans, state politicians and other people. It always made people laugh, did this time too.

Until, the Obama sideshow took over.
 
People mocking the President, a fine American tradition. I've always wondered whether it was the same company making all those Presidential Halloween masks or whether there were a couple of companies.

Having a clown mock the President is in the best tradition of King Lear.
 
I don't see how you can make this claim? What exactly do you think the rodeo clown was trying to say other than he dislikes (or dare I say hates) Pres. Obama? Frankly, I find it very cowardice for people to hide behind "free speech" when all they've done was show blatant disrespect for the President of the United States no matter who he is or from whatever political party he affiliates.



To this claim that "liberals" get all butt-hurt whenever anyone from the opposing party challenges a claim of being disrespectful towards "their" President, I think people know bad behavior when they see it. But for the record, I don't consider myself a liberal nor a Democrat although I do identify more with the Democrat Party than I do the Republican Party. I like to think I can see the good and the bad within both parties. I take the better qualities of both and try to shape my ideology around those issues. For example, I don't like the continuous dependency on social programs by some segments of the population, but I can understand how many people would struggle to have their survival needs met without these programs. I think we as a nation can met the needs of those in need without maintaining a revolving door to such benefits. Nevertheless, I call inappropriate behavior what it is no matter what side of the political divide the behavior stems from. For example, when the Iraqi tossed a shoe at GWB during a press conference he held in Iraq, I thought it was disrespectful. Moreover, it was dangerous! What if it had been a knife instead? I may not have liked him much as President, but I certainly didn't want to see him get hurt. And that's where I'm coming from with this clown issue.

He may have been attempting to convey to the crowd his displeasure with President Obama, but he could have shown it in a much more appropriate way. This wasn't a man trying to be funny. This was a man trying to stir the crowd to anger. This wasn't a man making jokes. This was a man attempting to mock the President of the United States. No matter what he may have thought of his policies or the direction he believes the President is taking the country in, there are better more appropriate ways to be funny yet not be disrespectful of the President of the United States.



As an aside, between 1976 and 2004 I really wasn't as into politics during that period as I am now. Of course, I had so many other things taking place in my life back then - finishing high school, serving my country on active duty in the Navy, taking care of my young family, etc. But since 2004, I've paid closer attention to the political wrangling of the day, and I must admit I don't like the hyper-partisanship I see every day. I've often wondered why can't a person simple call out a wrong without being labeled a liberal whinny-ass or a conservative blowhard?

Your point is well taken. But to say that now that Obama is President, because Obama is so special, we should all be civil and proper when referring to him when his own supporters were so uncivil and mean about the previous president? Sorry, but there's too much to pay for first. If people want civility then they should be civil. Obama supporters have never, never been civil, and it doesn't look like they will start any time soon.
 
Your point is well taken. But to say that now that Obama is President, because Obama is so special, we should all be civil and proper when referring to him when his own supporters were so uncivil and mean about the previous president? Sorry, but there's too much to pay for first. If people want civility then they should be civil. Obama supporters have never, never been civil, and it doesn't look like they will start any time soon.

I don't know your media habits....but....if you are one of the Limbaugh-ese, or the Beckians, or the Hannitians....perhaps the treatment of Bush was overblown by folks who get paid big bucks to be outraged on the air.

I'm 48 years old and never treated a sitting President with the kind of disrespect that the right shows Obama. I've disagreed with policies and ideology.....even poked some good natured fun(which is what this whole clown thing pretty much is) at them....but I've never seen hatred and vitriol like it is now.

Perhaps with Nixon....but being born in '65, I was too young to experience it.
 
Your point is well taken. But to say that now that Obama is President, because Obama is so special, we should all be civil and proper when referring to him when his own supporters were so uncivil and mean about the previous president? Sorry, but there's too much to pay for first. If people want civility then they should be civil. Obama supporters have never, never been civil, and it doesn't look like they will start any time soon.

It's a fin example of hypocrisy from both sides though. I remember the left mocking Bush claiming freedom of speech and I remember many on the right claiming that the president should be shown respect regardless of what someone thinks of their politics. Now the roles have been reversed as well as the opinions from both sides. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Me? It's free speech whether I like or or not and therefore what they did to this clown by banning him is completely wrong IMO.
 
I wonder if those labeling people in here in the terms of talk radio entertainers on the right, have a problem with this:

 
I don't know your media habits....but....if you are one of the Limbaugh-ese, or the Beckians, or the Hannitians....perhaps the treatment of Bush was overblown by folks who get paid big bucks to be outraged on the air.

I'm 48 years old and never treated a sitting President with the kind of disrespect that the right shows Obama. I've disagreed with policies and ideology.....even poked some good natured fun(which is what this whole clown thing pretty much is) at them....but I've never seen hatred and vitriol like it is now.

Perhaps with Nixon....but being born in '65, I was too young to experience it.

If you have never seen "hatred and vitriol like it is now" you were wearing blinders when Bush was President. Simple as that.
 
If you have never seen "hatred and vitriol like it is now" you were wearing blinders when Bush was President. Simple as that.

Bull....unless you're basing your experience on Political Message Boards, hard left media pundits and Internet trolls photoshopping pictures.

Bush's second term? There was a lot of valid criticism....but most people still treated him with civility.

Yes....I saw the pictures of the "haunted house" decorated with effigies of Bush and his administration strung up...and I thought it was ridiculous....and other various crap that I disagreed with.

I think it's you who has the blinders on.
 
I don't know your media habits....but....if you are one of the Limbaugh-ese, or the Beckians, or the Hannitians....perhaps the treatment of Bush was overblown by folks who get paid big bucks to be outraged on the air.

I'm 48 years old and never treated a sitting President with the kind of disrespect that the right shows Obama. I've disagreed with policies and ideology.....even poked some good natured fun(which is what this whole clown thing pretty much is) at them....but I've never seen hatred and vitriol like it is now.

Perhaps with Nixon....but being born in '65, I was too young to experience it.

Sorry, but it was much worse for Bush. Much much much worse. On the other hand, it's not Republicans who are calling Pres. Obama a war criminal. It's the people on the far left. The left still calls Bush a war criminal who lied us into war even after 2 bipartisan commissions cleared him and his administration (see 3rd link above).

It's a fin example of hypocrisy from both sides though. I remember the left mocking Bush claiming freedom of speech and I remember many on the right claiming that the president should be shown respect regardless of what someone thinks of their politics. Now the roles have been reversed as well as the opinions from both sides. Hypocrisy at its finest.

Me? It's free speech whether I like or or not and therefore what they did to this clown by banning him is completely wrong IMO.

This kind of rhetoric directed against sitting presidents goes back more than 100 years. Lincoln was called a braying ass, an imbecile, disgusting in manner, a pettifogger, and worse in print. I suppose the yearning for a more civil discourse goes back as far as well, but the solutions used then were more on the order of burning down the newspaper offices and destroying the presses. There's no use in claiming that this side or the other started it.
 
Obama-mask clown gets lifetime Missouri fair ban. Just, or too harsh?

does he have his own show on Fox yet?



























:lol:

/bad Helix
 
Missouri NAACP calls this act a hate crime.

No, I'm being serious.
 
Missouri NAACP calls this act a hate crime.

No, I'm being serious.

That's just asinine. That's the problem with extremism on either side of the fence.....making mountains out of molehills.
 
Missouri NAACP calls this act a hate crime.

No, I'm being serious.

While I don't believe in hate crimes this is ridiculous. Now if the clown said "Hey you wanna see this ni**er hit by a bull" I could see them wanting to go after it as a hate crime. However, this is far far from it.
 
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