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Grant said:
Islamists would probably argue that they are Muslims and I'd have to agree with thewm. Being 'bad' Muslims doesn;t make them any less Islamic. In fact, according to polls, many Muslims agree with their antics..


Apparently not. The West is still being accused of killing 'innocent' Muslims. If Muslims can't tell the radicals apart from regular Muslims I don't know how non-Muslims can.
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you always have to pretend to misunderstand my comments ?

of course l know the difference and it is always me who tries to make you aware of it

for instance muslim doesnt cut your troat if you support them but islamist does
 
Jetboogieman said:
We already know, because you've said it, you want to stop all muslims from being able to immigrate to Canada...

Your bigotry and vitriol is just disgusting Grant.
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Right. So I'll mark you down as pro Islamist.

Done.
 
Grant said:
Right. So I'll mark you down as pro Islamist.

Done.
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Exactly.

There's the right attitude.

Just because I don't want to paint all Muslims with a broad brush I'm pro Islamic Terrorism.

You are the epitome of a bigot.

You're just disgusting.

Problem with bigots is they're incapable of realizing they are one due to an extreme lack of self reflection.

It's people like YOU and your fascist opinions that start holocausts.
 
Medusa said:
you always have to pretend to misunderstand my comments ?

of course l know the difference and it is always me who tries to make you aware of it

for instance muslim doesnt cut your troat if you support them but islamist does
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Yes, but that is after the fact. It would be good to know this sort of thing before your throat is slit. Danny Pearl, as just one out of many examples, would have loved to have known how to spot the radical Muslim from the regular Muslim..
 
Grant said:
Yes, but that is after the fact. It would be good to know this sort of thing before your throat is slit. Danny Pearl, as just one out of many examples, would have loved to have known how to spot the radical Muslim from the regular Muslim..
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keep away from them (from ME

so simple
 
Grant said:
Right, though no one has said that.
Perhaps, but that they agree with you doesn't make them right. The truth is not based on according to which faith someone follows. It stands on its own.

I wasn't the first to mention Turkey, you were. My interest lies in the topic at hand and how we might contain the Islamists.
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sure ?

Grant said:
Perhaps you don't know as much about the Crusades as you think you do, Medusa, if you were taught in an Islamic environment. Maybe you should look at more scholarly non-Islamic sources.
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Jetboogieman said:
Exactly.

There's the right attitude.

Just because I don't want to paint all Muslims with a broad brush I'm pro Islamic Terrorism.

You are the epitome of a bigot.

You're just disgusting.

Problem with bigots is they're incapable of realizing they are one due to an extreme lack of self reflection.

It's people like YOU and your fascist opinions that start holocausts.
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So let me guess. You are on the fence regarding the separation of radical Muslims from your regular Muslims?
 
Grant said:
So let me guess. You are on the fence regarding the separation of radical Muslims from your regular Muslims?
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We fight to the very end to defeat radical Islam as I would to defeat radical christianity... any radical movement that seeks to use violence for political ends.

I oppose any ideal that targets innocent people for political gain.

Which is why I also have to oppose yours.

For your ideas would lead to the persecution of many innocent people and would be fundamentally wrong.
 
Grant said:
Yes. But can we get back on topic? My quote you used didn't mention Turkey.
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you implied it , not you mentioned and l had to make explanation about turkey

no need for demagogy l think
 
APACHERAT said:
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What's your point you braindead partisan hack?

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Medusa said:
keep away from them (from ME

so simple
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Oh I agree. Until there is a simple test to separate the Islamists from regular Muslims there are going to be a great many difficulties. Do you agree with the similar proposition that Muslims should be discouraged from entering western democracies?
 
Medusa said:
you implied it , not you mentioned and l had to make explanation about turkey

no need for demagogy l think
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I implied it???

Actually I did no such thing. You simply read it incorrectly but that's no big deal. I was talking only of an Islamic education and that could be anywhere in the world.
 
Grant said:
Oh I agree. Until there is a simple test to separate the Islamists from regular Muslims there are going to be a great many difficulties. Do you agree with the similar proposition that Muslims should be discouraged from entering western democracies?
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Grant said:
I implied it???

Actually I did no such thing. You simply read it incorrectly but that's no big deal. I was talking only of an Islamic education and that could be anywhere in the world.
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you know turks are muslim and you tried to justify your own claim by implying that my thoughts about crusaders might have resulted from my background of islam
 
Medusa said:
you know turks are muslim and you tried to justify your own claim by implying that my thoughts about crusaders might have resulted from my background of islam
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Indeed I did, but it has nhing to do with Turkey and everything to do with an Islamic education.

Have you considered the idea that perhaps Muslim teachers may view the Crusades differently than non Muslims?
 
Medusa said:
they are not muslim ,they are islamist

teh west knows how to seperate them from each other
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You are exactly right. Unfortunately our current leader seems unable make the distinction.
 
Jetboogieman said:
We fight to the very end to defeat radical Islam as I would to defeat radical christianity... any radical movement that seeks to use violence for political ends.

I oppose any ideal that targets innocent people for political gain.

Which is why I also have to oppose yours.

For your ideas would lead to the persecution of many innocent people and would be fundamentally wrong.
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It is also true that not all Germans were Nazis. But because their leaders were Nazis, there was heavy collateral damage among the non-Nazis. As long as the Islamists hide behind the innocent, those innocents are at extreme risk - unless, of course, you lack the moral courage to do the right thing and eliminate the bad guys; in that case, the bad guys win.
 
Diogenes said:
You are exactly right. Unfortunately our current leader seems unable make the distinction.
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l dont think he cant
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but he is teh president and he has to forget his own ideas
 
apdst said:
Can't undo going there. But, we should have made sure things were going to remain stable, before we left.
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Yeah they were REAL FREAKIN' stable while we were there! :roll:

Look at any stats/graphs on civilians deaths and you see using 2008 as measure, the first half was high, a sudden drop off in the last half and roughly 1/3 the number since. So those who lament a lack of 'leadership' under President Obama have not done their homework.

Those who use such vague words like 'stable' just quibble. The death toll is stable, the government is stable, the borders stable, and oil production stable.

None of which means much, just the killing continues at a lower rate than the first half of '08, the government hasn't dissolved, the borders are still there and as 'secure' as when we were there, and oil flows but not like the predictions of those who assured the American Public we would be greeted with flowers and candies... :roll:

We didn't fix much or stablize anything, simply changed the face of fear from a few to many.
 
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