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Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

Boo Radley said:
I'm not sure you guys are big on personal responsibility as you're always blaming others: the media, liberals, everyone who disagree with you (usually always that they're dumb, uneducated, hating America, lacking common sense, and whatever other name you can call them).

But that fact is you can do everything right, and still find yourself needing medical care you cant afford on your own. It's beneficial for the country to have an efficient and sound plan to deal with public health. Needed care should be like fire and police, a public concern.
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So Obama says if you like your plan and your doctor you can keep it? How does this grab your Boo? You really are very naive

UPS to drop 15,000 spouses from insurance, cites Obamacare - Atlanta Business Chronicle
 
Conservative said:
Funny how the data supports us. The fact is you cannot legislate stupidity and personal responsibility. Your one size fits all always costs more than intended and provides less than other programs would provide. Take your "investment and your employers" investment in SS and put it in a simple CD over your work lifetime and see how much you would have when you retired and it would be all yours and your families.

What I find quite perplexing is how someone with your intelligence can so easily be fooled and how gullible you are. You still haven't answered, what is in it for you?
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Actually, it rarely does. In fact, sometimes you seem factually challenged, often misrepresenting the very facts YOU post.
 
Conservative said:
So Obama says if you like your plan and your doctor you can keep it? How does this grab your Boo? You really are very naive

UPS to drop 15,000 spouses from insurance, cites Obamacare - Atlanta Business Chronicle
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See, this has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Not me and you. But I have kept my plan and doctor. No changes.

UPS is just a crappy company. And, BTW, companies have been dropping insurance for a long time now. Long before Obama was even elected.
 
Boo Radley said:
You dump insurance, you're a crappy company. No way around it.
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Either dumping insurance or cutting hours, it looks like Obamacare is turning most companies into "crappy" companies.:peace

[h=3]NBC: Yes, employers are cutting hours to avoid ObamaCare « Hot Air[/h]hotair.com/.../nbc-yes-employers-are-cutting-hours-to-avoid-obamacare/‎
Aug 14, 2013 - Employers around the country, from fast-food franchises to colleges, have told NBC News that they will be cutting workers' hours below 30 a ...

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Jack Hays said:
Either dumping insurance or cutting hours, it looks like Obamacare is turning most companies into "crappy" companies.:peace

[h=3]NBC: Yes, employers are cutting hours to avoid ObamaCare « Hot Air[/h]hotair.com/.../nbc-yes-employers-are-cutting-hours-to-avoid-obamacare/‎
Aug 14, 2013 - Employers around the country, from fast-food franchises to colleges, have told NBC News that they will be cutting workers' hours below 30 a ...

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If this wasn't happening, and then started out of the blue, you might have a point. But you can go back a long ways and see it happening long be before Obama was even elected. Until healthcare is not linked to employment, you will see it no matter what Obama does.
 
Boo Radley said:
If this wasn't happening, and then started out of the blue, you might have a point. But you can go back a long ways and see it happening long be before Obama was even elected. Until healthcare is not linked to employment, you will see it no matter what Obama does.
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Sorry, but no sale. This didn't happen on a significant scale until Obamacare.:peace
 
Jack Hays said:
Sorry, but no sale. This didn't happen on a significant scale until Obamacare.:peace
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Sure it did. I've linked it before. This has been a long movement. Companies have been using more part time people and dumping insurance for a long time. Hell, we had discussions on it when Bush was president, and it wasn't new then.
 
Boo Radley said:
If this wasn't happening, and then started out of the blue, you might have a point. But you can go back a long ways and see it happening long be before Obama was even elected. Until healthcare is not linked to employment, you will see it no matter what Obama does.
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Take it up with HuffPost and UC Berkeley.

[h=3]Obamacare Putting Millions Of Part-Time Workers At Risk Of Seeing ...[/h]www.huffingtonpost.com/.../part-time-workers-obamacare_n_3210321....‎:peace
 
Boo Radley said:
I don't have to, I didn't start following just today. I've paid attention for a long, long time.
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I really am beginning to feel sorry for you as I guess everyone has a little liberal in them. You are wrong and cannot admit it, you are married to a failed ideology, and you are delusional on what data you have posted to support your claim not realizing that most of what you post are opinions and not reality. BLS shows that most of the jobs created are part time jobs, name for me any other time when that happened? Part time jobs are going to be the normal under Obama as there is no incentive to create full time jobs and pay the cost of those jobs. Companies cannot compete in a global economy with high U.S. wages and benefits. Sorry but that is reality along with the fact that businesses weren't created for employees.
 
You seem to have a problem with everybody to the left of lunacy.
Conservative said:
I really am beginning to feel sorry for you as I guess everyone has a little liberal in them. You are wrong and cannot admit it, you are married to a failed ideology, and you are delusional on what data you have posted to support your claim not realizing that most of what you post are opinions and not reality. BLS shows that most of the jobs created are part time jobs, name for me any other time when that happened? Part time jobs are going to be the normal under Obama as there is no incentive to create full time jobs and pay the cost of those jobs. Companies cannot compete in a global economy with high U.S. wages and benefits. Sorry but that is reality along with the fact that businesses weren't created for employees.
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calamity said:
And, you are not making sense. Explain to us how Obama is "Red". From his nomination of Tim Geithner and Tom Vilsak to his bailing out the money people at AIG, BOA and GM--not to mention the gift he gave the insurance companies---he seems like your standard pro-corporate politician to me, no different than the others who came before him.
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Red as in the color of Marxism, socialism, liberalism, progressivism and statism.

Do you think he is not above plundering the people who make the country work in order to do a little bit of money laundering for the democrats who will continue to help him create his utopia here?

Do you have to see the hammer and sickle before you will see him as he is?
 
Misterveritis said:
Red as in the color of Marxism, socialism, liberalism, progressivism and statism.

Do you think he is not above plundering the people who make the country work in order to do a little bit of money laundering for the democrats who will continue to help him create his utopia here?

Do you have to see the hammer and sickle before you will see him as he is?
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Corvettes a communist plot?

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Jack Hays said:
Well then you'll have no trouble providing some supporting evidence to back up your claim.:peace
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Have before. But if you been alive longer than ten years, you should know it.
 
Conservative said:
I really am beginning to feel sorry for you as I guess everyone has a little liberal in them. You are wrong and cannot admit it, you are married to a failed ideology, and you are delusional on what data you have posted to support your claim not realizing that most of what you post are opinions and not reality. BLS shows that most of the jobs created are part time jobs, name for me any other time when that happened? Part time jobs are going to be the normal under Obama as there is no incentive to create full time jobs and pay the cost of those jobs. Companies cannot compete in a global economy with high U.S. wages and benefits. Sorry but that is reality along with the fact that businesses weren't created for employees.
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There's you're typical name calling.
 
Jack Hays said:
I don't think it happened before.
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While there have always been part-time workers, especially at restaurants and retailers, employers today rely on them far more than before as they seek to cut costs and align staffing to customer traffic. This trend has frustrated millions of Americans who want to work full-time, reducing their pay and benefits.

“Over the past two decades, many major retailers went from a quotient of 70 to 80 percent full-time to at least 70 percent part-time across the industry,” said Burt P. Flickinger III, managing director of the Strategic Resource Group, a retail consulting firm.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/b...for-american-workers.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
 
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