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Reid says Obamacare just a step toward eventual single-payer system[W:1539]

Unitedwestand13 said:
And yet Obama is waiting for congress to write legeslation dealing with issues like immigration and the economy.
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Agreed. Leaders make decisions, losers make excuses. Obama is definitely not a leader, and none of the puppet masters pulling his strings have much interest in the immigration issue. On the economy, he simply has his munchkins quietly write and implement new rules to promote his vision of returning the government to the status it enjoyed under the pharaohs.
 
Conservative said:
Ask Harry Reid why he is holding up dozens of House passed bills?
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If Harry Reid allowed votes on all those conservitives bills, the 40 attempts at repealing obamacare, every bill that is defeated gives conservatives a oppertunity to use it as ammunition for elections.

All is fair in politics.
 
calamity said:
Nonsense. I said we spend over a trillion dollars per year on the military, which the facts I cited bear out.
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LOL. I'd say I could tell you were a liberal and know you were lying because your lips were moving but this is a message board and I can't see your lips.

You said we spend 1.5 t on defense per year. Conservative pointed out to you that even at the height of the Iraq war, we didn't reach that number.

Instead of leaving it at that and moving on, you decided to post an article that proved exactly what Conservative said. Then to make things appear like you knew like you knew what you where talking about, you added a list of additional spending that included NASA, Homeland Security, VA (that's not defense spending) and so on. I don't even know where you got that list from. I didn't see it in the article that you linked and the article you linked topped defense spending at about 800 billon one year.

So lets review math. Does 800 billion equal or exceed 1.5 trillion? Only when a liberal puts some liberal spin on it.

So now we know all we need to know about you.

I realize liberals are no where near the sharpest knifes in any drawer. But here's a hint to you. Don't link an article proving the point you try to disprove.
 
ItAin'tFree said:
LOL. I'd say I could tell you were a liberal and know you were lying because your lips were moving but this is a message board and I can't see your lips.

You said we spend 1.5 t on defense per year. Conservative pointed out to you that even at the height of the Iraq war, we didn't reach that number.

Instead of leaving it at that and moving on, you decided to post an article that proved exactly what Conservative said. Then to make things appear like you knew like you knew what you where talking about, you added a list of additional spending that included NASA, Homeland Security, VA (that's not defense spending) and so on. I don't even know where you got that list from. I didn't see it in the article that you linked and the article you linked topped defense spending at about 800 billon one year.

So lets review math. Does 800 billion equal or exceed 1.5 trillion? Only when a liberal puts some liberal spin on it.

So now we know all we need to know about you.

I realize liberals are no where near the sharpest knifes in any drawer. But here's a hint to you. Don't link an article proving the point you try to disprove.
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The wiki link I posted showed the US spending over $1.4T per year on defense. That is rounds off to 1.5 Trillion, in my book.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
If Harry Reid allowed votes on all those conservitives bills, the 40 attempts at repealing obamacare, every bill that is defeated gives conservatives a oppertunity to use it as ammunition for elections.

All is fair in politics.
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The bills he is holding up aren't to repeal Obamacare and there is no guarantee of a vote but the bills should be allowed for debate. The point is the GOP has been called obstructionist when the real obstruction is Harry Reid
 
Conservative said:
The bills he is holding up aren't to repeal Obamacare and there is no guarantee of a vote but the bills should be allowed for debate. The point is the GOP has been called obstructionist when the real obstruction is Harry Reid
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Sure, but how did you feel when republicans were doing this? How will you feel in the future?
 
Conservative said:
Yes he can, so stop blaming the GOP House for doing nothing and for being obstructionist
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Are you really saying republicans don't obstruct as well? You've got to kidding.
 
calamity said:
The wiki link I posted showed the US spending over $1.4T per year on defense. That is rounds off to 1.5 Trillion, in my book.
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You think that all the VA spending goes to the Iraq War Vets? You think Afghanistan was justified? You think NASA is defense spending? Homeland Security is its own separate department and not defense spending. Why don't you add all the other line items in the budget into defense spending just to be "fair?"

Guess you have no pride as you have no problem embarrassing yourself.
 
Boo Radley said:
Are you really saying republicans don't obstruct as well? You've got to kidding.
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Didn't respond to the post, I see. How can the Republican House be called Obstructionist when dozens of bills are sitting in Harry Reid's desk? you see obstruction seems to be when liberals don't get what they want and thus throw a temper tantrum
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Dictators and tyrants rule with absolute power.

How can Obama be a dictator if he cannot get his policy's implemented through congress?
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He has bypassed Congress. He is ruling now and no one is stopping him. He should be impeached but the nation is broken.

Are you suggesting that you are unaware of what Obama has done and is doing?
 
Conservative said:
The bills he is holding up aren't to repeal Obamacare and there is no guarantee of a vote but the bills should be allowed for debate. The point is the GOP has been called obstructionist when the real obstruction is Harry Reid
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Those bills are meaningless. They are intended to fool you. If the establishment Republicans were serious they would defund its implementation.

We shall have to rely upon Artlcle V to restore the nation to a limited government.
 
Conservative said:
The bills he is holding up aren't to repeal Obamacare and there is no guarantee of a vote but the bills should be allowed for debate. The point is the GOP has been called obstructionist when the real obstruction is Harry Reid
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The senate and house regularly pass different versions of the same bill, the house passes its version of a jobs bill, the senate passes its version of a jobs bill. However it seems that the current congress is reluctant to reconcile the two versions of a bill in conference committees. Why is that?
 
Conservative said:
You think that all the VA spending goes to the Iraq War Vets? You think Afghanistan was justified? You think NASA is defense spending? Homeland Security is its own separate department and not defense spending. Why don't you add all the other line items in the budget into defense spending just to be "fair?"

Guess you have no pride as you have no problem embarrassing yourself.
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$1.4 Trillion in Defense Spending is $1.4 Trillion in Defense Spending. How can you say NSA and Homeland Security is not defense? Talk about a disingenuous argument. :roll:
 
Conservative said:
Didn't respond to the post, I see. How can the Republican House be called Obstructionist when dozens of bills are sitting in Harry Reid's desk? you see obstruction seems to be when liberals don't get what they want and thus throw a temper tantrum
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I did respond to it. One doesn't mean the other isn't. Both play these games and have been. Your eye sight is just skewed to see only one.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
The senate and house regularly pass different versions of the same bill, the house passes its version of a jobs bill, the senate passes its version of a jobs bill. However it seems that the current congress is reluctant to reconcile the two versions of a bill in conference committees. Why is that?
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The House passed a number of bills that are sitting in Harry Reid's desk, why? We aren't talking about different versions. We are talking about Harry Reid being the obstructionist
 
Boo Radley said:
I did respond to it. One doesn't mean the other isn't. Both play these games and have been. Your eye sight is just skewed to see only one.
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And your skewed, biased, partisan ideology doesn't allow you to see that you have been brainwashed
 
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