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calamity said:
Defense of this country? We're not under any threat. GMAFB.
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That doesn't answer my question and how do you know we aren't under any threat? What is the defense of this country and your life style worth to you? How much money should be in the budget for defense?
 
Conservative said:
That doesn't answer my question and how do you know we aren't under any threat? What is the defense of this country and your life style worth to you? How much money should be in the budget for defense?
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Our biggest threat is crumbling infrastructure and degradation of services like sewer, water and electric. If you want to know what that's like, visit India.

As far as being attacked by any credible outside source--not just terrorism from a paranoid Right Winger---I'd say chances of that happening in my lifetime is 0.
 
calamity said:
Our biggest threat is crumbling infrastructure and degradation of services like sewer, water and electric. If you want to know what that's like, visit India.
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That doesn't answer the question, how much should the defense budget of the U.S. be in your world? As for your statement, you still have no idea what pays for those items and whose responsibility it is. This really is sad, you are a liberal elites dream
 
Conservative said:
That doesn't answer the question, how much should the defense budget of the U.S. be in your world? As for your statement, you still have no idea what pays for those items and whose responsibility it is. This really is sad, you are a liberal elites dream
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$200 Billion tops.
 
calamity said:
Until a credible threat comes along. We can always ramp up, if need be.
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And if time permits. We have also been told this about border control and immigration law enforcement for decades, yet it never seems to actually happen.
 
calamity said:
$200 Billion tops.
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LOL, and where do you get your expertise? But lets say you are right and we have a 200 billion dollar budget for the military, that is 500 billion less in deficit which still leaves us with a 700 billion dollar deficit. Do you not realize how poorly informed you are?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
And if time permits. We have also been told this about border control and immigration law enforcement for decades, yet it never seems to actually happen.
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Actually, border fears are another on the long list of Right Wing paranoia. No one crosses the border anymore. If anything, the illegals are going back home.
The number of undocumented immigrants living in the United States fell to an estimated 11.1 million in 2011 from about 12 million in 2007, according to an analysis of Census data released Thursday by the Associated Press. About 80 percent of undocumented immigrants come from Mexico and Latin America.

Illegal immigration drops after decade-long rise
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See. Lots of fear about nothing. That's how the Right makes their bones. You never noticed that?
 
Conservative said:
LOL, and where do you get your expertise? But lets say you are right and we have a 200 billion dollar budget for the military, that is 500 billion less in deficit which still leaves us with a 700 billion dollar deficit. Do you not realize how poorly informed you are?
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Do you know the deficit is rapidly shrinking?
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/08/projections-show-u-s-budget-deficit-will-shrink/?_r=0

The federal budget deficit will fall to $759 billion for the fiscal year that ends this September, a $214 billion improvement from the projection made in March, as spending cuts, tax increases and an improving economy begin to tame the government’s red ink, the White House budget office said on Monday.
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You shouldn't call others poorly informed. You're kind of a laughingstock.
 
calamity said:
Actually, border fears are another on the long list of Right Wing paranoia. No one crosses the border anymore. If anything, the illegals are going back home.


See. Lots of fear about nothing. That's how the Right makes their bones. You never noticed that?
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Yes, that is due to the booming Obama economy!

I cannot believe how naive you are, I live in TX and can tell you how wrong you are but that doesn't matter because since you cannot see it you don't believe it unless you are told by some leftwing site that you want to believe.
 
calamity said:
Actually, border fears are another on the long list of Right Wing paranoia. No one crosses the border anymore. If anything, the illegals are going back home.


See. Lots of fear about nothing. That's how the Right makes their bones. You never noticed that?
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:lol: :doh Great argument there, Skippy. Crime is dropping "all by itself" too - so should we simply relax and celebrate that fact or continue to try to eliminate it? :roll:
 
ttwtt78640 said:
:lol: :doh Great argument there, Skippy. Crime is dropping "all by itself" too - so should we simply relax and celebrate that fact or continue to try to eliminate it? :roll:
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Sorry, I'm not in fear of little brown men crossing the Rio Grande to come take my job. The militarization of our Southern Border is proof that the Right has run amok. Racist pigs.

Funny, no one talks of building a fence along the line with Canada.
 
calamity said:
Do you know the deficit is rapidly shrinking?
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/07/08/projections-show-u-s-budget-deficit-will-shrink/?_r=0


You shouldn't call others poorly informed. You're kind of a laughingstock.
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Great, since the deficit is dropping on its own then there is no need for tax increases on anyone. Thank you for your support. Further a 759 billion deficit is larger than any deficit GW Bush ever had and still makes debt service on the debt the fourth largest budget item or number two if you take out Medicare and SS and put them off budget.
 
Conservative said:
Yes, that is due to the booming Obama economy!

I cannot believe how naive you are, I live in TX and can tell you how wrong you are but that doesn't matter because since you cannot see it you don't believe it unless you are told by some leftwing site that you want to believe.
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Texas? Why am I not surprised. :lol:
 
calamity said:
Texas? Why am I not surprised. :lol:
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Don't know, too bad you haven't learned a thing from TX in how to have a growing economy and how to create jobs. I grew up in Ohio and you aren't representative of the people there. In fact you talk very much like a previous union poster from that state who also claimed to be a centrist.
 
calamity said:
Sorry, I'm not in fear of little brown men crossing the Rio Grande to come take my job. The militarization of our Southern Border is proof that the Right has run amok. Racist pigs.

Funny, no one talks of building a fence along the line with Canada.
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Really? Maybe not a fence but surely we are concerned about that border as well, even if it was declared 99% secure.

Since the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, DHS has dedicated historic levels of personnel, infrastructure, and technology to the Northern border. Border Patrol agent staffing on the Northern border has increased by over 650 percent – from approximately 340 agents in 2001, to approximately 2,200 agents today
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Written testimony of CBP for a Senate Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs Subcommittee on the Efficiency & Effectiveness of Federal Programs
 
Conservative said:
Don't know, too bad you haven't learned a thing from TX in how to have a growing economy and how to create jobs. I grew up in Ohio and you aren't representative of the people there. In fact you talk very much like a previous union poster from that state who also claimed to be a centrist.
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