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Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016 [W:72]

Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

Over 97% of the people of Detroit voted for Obama in the last election and it was the same people with the same economic and political understandings who voted for him on a national level. Once is forgivable but twice borders on the criminal.

I said the same thing about those that voted for Bush twice.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

Romney was the more mature, experienced, knowledgeable and intelligent candidate and I believe most Americans who want the best for their country, and not necessarily for their political party, would dearly love a do-over.

Sure he was, sure he was :roll:

Romney was a prime example of politics over what is good for the country. Had people REALLY cared about this country, they wouldn't have voted for either Romney or Obama. Alas, most people are stuck in the same duopoly system hoping that "this time" will be different and thinking "Their guy" is never the problem. The Dem/Reps are ruining this country and the sheeple keep voting for them.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

I said the same thing about those that voted for Bush twice.

Did you really? Did 97% of the people of Detroit, or any city, vote for President Bush?
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

The guy wanted to be President of half the country. We really don't need that.

No, of course not! You'd prefer trillions in debt, a collapsed foreign policy. more government intrusion into private lives, more exercise of the 5th by governments heads, more central planning and a larger government. But at least BHO is President of 51% of the country.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

Not making excuses...It really was Romney's to take, but he lost because he was out done by what I think will go down in history as the most dishonest campaign in recent memory in this country.

It's not the media's fault. It's not Obama's fault in the way you stated it. And others keep blaming these things and others is well. Romney was a poor candidate, and that's why he lost. The buck starts and stops with him.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

Sure he was, sure he was :roll:
Yes, that seems evident. Which one needs the teleprompter?
Romney was a prime example of politics over what is good for the country.

Whereas BHO shied away from politics and did the country some good. His list of accomplishments must make for the type of reading even a product of the Detroit educational system might understand.
Had people REALLY cared about this country, they wouldn't have voted for either Romney or Obama.

Yes. that would have done a lot of good. Perhaps you should have jumped on that bandwagon before it left the station.
Alas, most people are stuck in the same duopoly system hoping that "this time" will be different and thinking "Their guy" is never the problem. The Dem/Reps are ruining this country and the sheeple keep voting for them.

After the first term the public could easily see that Barrack Obama was incompetent. As someone else noted, the electorate proved they were not racist after the first election but were just plain stupid after the second election.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

Yes, that seems evident. Which one needs the teleprompter?

Even Bush used a teleprompter, don't think you minded then.

Whereas BHO shied away from politics and did the country some good. His list of accomplishments must make for the type of reading even a product of the Detroit educational system might understand.

Sounds like Obama wasn't a good president, good thing I didn't vote for him isn't it?

Yes. that would have done a lot of good. Perhaps you should have jumped on that bandwagon before it left the station.

I didn't vote for Obama, did you vote for Romney? If so you are part of the problem.

After the first term the public could easily see that Barrack Obama was incompetent. As someone else noted, the electorate proved they were not racist after the first election but were just plain stupid after the second election.

Yep, and it should have been clear that the GOP wasn't the right route after Bush too. You would think after numerous Dem and Rep presidents with increased government and debt people would be smart enough NOT to vote for either Dem/Rep. Alas, they are not.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

Even Bush used a teleprompter, don't think you minded then.

Oh,no!!~! Not Bush again!!! Did you not see we were discussing Romney and Obama!!! What's the matter with you Leftists?
Sounds like Obama wasn't a good president, good thing I didn't vote for him isn't it?

I have no interest in who you voted for.

I didn't vote for Obama, did you vote for Romney? If so you are part of the problem.

Can you not stick to the issues??

Yep, and it should have been clear that the GOP wasn't the right route after Bush too. You would think after numerous Dem and Rep presidents with increased government and debt people would be smart enough NOT to vote for either Dem/Rep. Alas, they are not.

The more simple-minded of the electorate were caught up in the War On Women nonsense, the 47% issue, and so on. The big issues, with the assistance of the dishonest, corrupt and incompetent MSM, were ignored.

Perhaps some States may have to secede, or threaten to, before responsible government is made possible. And many Americans are now leaving the US just as they once abandoned Detroit.

Certainly the electorate can vote for buffoons like Barrack Obama and get their way but when the big issues are ignored and it all becomes a matter of party lines then the country will have to pay a price, and we are seeing that now.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

Are you talking about Obama here? Because if you think that Obama represents, or cares about me other than to send his IRS, EPA, FBI, DoJ, and any other agency he has at his disposal, after me, then you probably have a bridge for sale too.

Yeah, right. The entire resources of the US Govt are dedicated to persecuting you. You're treaated like a regular Osama bin Laden :roll:
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

Yes, that seems evident. Which one needs the teleprompter?

Romney
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Romney lost because he was the candidate of idiots who think things like teleprompters and birth certificates are the criticial issues in a presidential election.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

Oh,no!!~! Not Bush again!!! Did you not see we were discussing Romney and Obama!!! What's the matter with you Leftists?

Can you not stick to the issues??

Kind of funny. The thread's about Hillary Clinton. Thank god you're keeping us on topic.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

And the only one decent, honest and forthright enough to come straight out and say he had no intention of representing 47% of the population.

He didn't say that.

He implied 47% were sucking on the government teet. It's a block of voters the Socialist of Amerika Partei (SAPs) have tried to buy with taxpayer money, and to a large degree have been successful. Therefore it will be a long, hard row to hoe.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

He didn't say that.

He implied 47% were sucking on the government teet. It's a block of voters the Socialist of Amerika Partei (SAPs) have tried to buy with taxpayer money, and to a large degree have been successful. Therefore it will be a long, hard row to hoe.

Yeah, he totally didn't say that.

."[M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

Or whatever . . .
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

Yeah, he totally didn't say that.
Or whatever . . .

It's precisely what he said... I accurately summed it up an a couple sentences... here is what Romney said:

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. And I mean, the president starts off with 48, 49, 48—he starts off with a huge number. These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn't connect. And he'll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. I mean that's what they sell every four years. And so my job is not to worry about those people—I'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. What I have to do is convince the 5 to 10 percent in the center that are independents that are thoughtful, that look at voting one way or the other depending upon in some cases emotion, whether they like the guy or not, what it looks like. I mean, when you ask those people…we do all these polls—I find it amazing—we poll all these people, see where you stand on the polls, but 45 percent of the people will go with a Republican, and 48 or 4…
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

It's precisely what he said... I accurately summed it up an a couple sentences... here is what Romney said:

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. And I mean, the president starts off with 48, 49, 48—he starts off with a huge number. These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn't connect. And he'll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. I mean that's what they sell every four years. And so my job is not to worry about those people—I'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. What I have to do is convince the 5 to 10 percent in the center that are independents that are thoughtful, that look at voting one way or the other depending upon in some cases emotion, whether they like the guy or not, what it looks like. I mean, when you ask those people…we do all these polls—I find it amazing—we poll all these people, see where you stand on the polls, but 45 percent of the people will go with a Republican, and 48 or 4…

He summarized the situation very well, and truthfully. Of course the Democrats were able to use this to their political advantage because the truth does not play a role in their political campaigns. It's what the poorly informed masses believe, their perceptions, which is the only factor. The Presidency has been dumbed down to a dangerously low point.
 
It's precisely what he said... I accurately summed it up an a couple sentences... here is what Romney said:

There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. And I mean, the president starts off with 48, 49, 48—he starts off with a huge number. These are people who pay no income tax. Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax. So our message of low taxes doesn't connect. And he'll be out there talking about tax cuts for the rich. I mean that's what they sell every four years. And so my job is not to worry about those people—I'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. What I have to do is convince the 5 to 10 percent in the center that are independents that are thoughtful, that look at voting one way or the other depending upon in some cases emotion, whether they like the guy or not, what it looks like. I mean, when you ask those people…we do all these polls—I find it amazing—we poll all these people, see where you stand on the polls, but 45 percent of the people will go with a Republican, and 48 or 4…

He's right.
 
He's right.

Yes, but the Left believes that the truth should not be spoken, that a candidate speaking the truth is not Presidential material. And by electing a known liar they proved themselves to be correct..
 
Yes, but the Left believes that the truth should not be spoken, that a candidate speaking the truth is not Presidential material. And by electing a known liar they proved themselves to be correct..

We conservatives could learn a lesson in that. We are always trying to play an honorable tact, when our opponent has no intention of being honest. We need to develop their own tactics and use them against them.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

And the only one decent, honest and forthright enough to come straight out and say he had no intention of representing 47% of the population.

That post is dishonest BS prefaced with irony. I give it an 8.5 on the partisan hack scale.

He was talking about campaigning.
 
We conservatives could learn a lesson in that. We are always trying to play an honorable tact, when our opponent has no intention of being honest. We need to develop their own tactics and use them against them.

That idea has some merit but then there would be two main parties trying to out lie each other, and that can't be good for the country.

Better that children are educated about morals and ethics at an early age and that they have a broader education in the schools and universities. They are turning out stupid people at an alarming rate, with too high a proportion of them unable to speak coherently and bordering on the illiterate. Democracy in America, for example, should be taught in high schools, but too many are not prepared for the real world.

I think we know who these people voted for.
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We conservatives could learn a lesson in that. We are always trying to play an honorable tact,

As long as you think Swift Boating, character assassination, and claiming the opponent is an African Muslim with close ties to terrorism and wants to set up "death pannels" is an honorable tact, then yeah.
 
As long as you think Swift Boating, character assassination, and claiming the opponent is an African Muslim with close ties to terrorism and wants to set up "death pannels" is an honorable tact, then yeah.

Maybe you should take these issues, on at a time, in the proper thread.
 
“We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.”

The Dems are certainly not governing with fact checkers!
Don

Compared to what buffoons in the Casa Blanca are saying, what a campaign worker once said really doesn't matter much, does it?
 
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