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Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016 [W:72]

Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

j-mac said:
Well, like I said, I hope you do get Hillary....I suspect they are drafting the ads now....Please give us an easy target for 2016....
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Whatever else can be said today, Hillary Clinton is not an easy target. She is a formidable candidate for myriad reasons.

As for the GOP, the cycle's still young, and there are intriguing possible candidates. Plus Chris Christie.
 
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j-mac said:
And here I thought repub's were having trouble with splits it their party....Demo's seem to be conflicted even within their own thoughts....
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Your OP a is a lie. It says she's the one "voters" don't want to be nominated; not the one "dems" don't want to be nominated. From the article:

But wait: Clinton also topped the poll as the one Democrats most want as their nominee.
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This just shows that it's the repubs who don't want her nominated because they know she'll win and they are afraid of losing
 
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j-mac said:
Ah yes, It's all FNC's fault....:roll: What's the matter Pete? Has Media Matters run out of original attacks?
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That's my opinion and I'm sticking with it. You won't see any Democrats hiding on MSNBC, but you will see Republicans hiding on Fox. It's unnatural and the Republicans are worse because of it. Again, that's my opinion.
 
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pbrauer said:
Wow! The spin from the Washington Examiner. The report by Rasmussen:

Hillary Clinton Is Leading Favorite
Hillary Clinton is the Democrat voters most want to see win her party’s presidential nomination in 2016 – and least want to see win that nomination, too. Among Democrats, she’s the overwhelming favorite.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 63% of Likely Democratic Voters would choose Clinton if the 2016 Democratic presidential primary were held in their state today. Vice President Joe Biden is a distant second with 12% support. Several other prominent Democrats muster five percent (5%) or less support from voters in their own party. (To see survey question wording,

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She was the overwhelming favorite to win in 08 too. What happened? A rookie, a never-done-nuth'in Marxist won the nomination.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Obama was very beatable. How did the republican field do? I ret my case.

As for what I want to talk about, I merely answered what you said. I don't think you know flawed. If you did, you see it both ways.
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Obama was weak and has poor character. He comes with more radikal baggage than an A380 can carry.

Nobody in the McCain or Romney campaigns went for the jugular, and with the state of our cheerleading journ-O-lists, Republicans had to drive the story and put the nostrils of the journ-O-lists in the dung to make sure they notice it.
 
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zimmer said:
She was the overwhelming favorite to win in 08 too. What happened? A rookie, a never-done-nuth'in Marxist won the nomination.
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President Obama is a Marxist? lol
 
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zimmer said:
Obama was weak and has poor character. He comes with more radikal baggage than an A380 can carry.

Nobody in the McCain or Romney campaigns went for the jugular, and with the state of our cheerleading journ-O-lists, Republicans had to drive the story and put the nostrils of the journ-O-lists in the dung to make sure they notice it.
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Point is: neither won. That's the bottom line.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

j-mac said:
I can't help if you want to pick a flawed candidate....Hey, I hope you put up Hillary....Have fun with that.
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it would have been much easier to just say "I don't know" or "I don't have an answer to your question"... unless you rather enjoy talking to yourself I suppose.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

j-mac said:
Again with the faulty line of letting liberals pick our field eh? Oh brother. :doh:
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by all means, keep picking your own. BTW... how's that been working out for you?
 
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The theme from the dems will be similar to the theme in 2008/2012. War on Women, first female president blah blah... The actual issues will be played down. However, unlike previous elections, Hillary actually has a record, and it ain't good.. Of course, that all means nothing in the grand scheme of ill-informed voter rolls.

Tim-
 
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calamity said:
IMO, a Hill-Billy victory would be bad for women. She not only rode in on Bill's coattails, but she also traded in her self respect years ago in exchange for that free ride. I'd much rather see a true leader like Elizabeth Warren be the first female president than a follower like Hillary any day.
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I would definitely back that action. EW for prez!
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

j-mac said:
And here I thought repub's were having trouble with splits it their party....Demo's seem to be conflicted even within their own thoughts....
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That was a huge spin on the actual report. I would imagine every candidate rep or dem faces a section of their party that is opposed to them running. If i remember right the last republican primary was ripe with a number of choices that a good section of their base did not care for, and they chose Mittens who seemed to be moderate enough to tick off their core base pretty well. As for Hillary the only people freaking out because she is running seems to be the conservatives as they are terrified of her running. The reps want to pull their debates because they might air a Tv show about her 3 years before the election. There are dem groups out there begging her to run, and she is considered in the party to be the strongest candidate in the actual poll the idiots you quoted used. According tot hat poll she would win the nomination from her own party easily today. Then you consider things like sexism and her career which has spanned a few years and probably made a few enemies, and any person in her position is going to face opposition even in their own party.

You and the article are really trying very hard to find something to cheer about in her running. Perhaps you are trying way too hard. We all know what is coming if she runs, and it is your meltdown along with the right. She is a woman and a clinton which may just make her far better at melting down the right than obama.
 
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j-mac said:
No, you fail at trying as hard as you can in trying to deflect the thread topic into a discussion about republicans....This isn't about the repub potential field, if you want to talk about that then start your own thread.
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So you are actually going to try and spin this as not being bout 2016? If it isn't, why do poll numbers matter? If it is, how can you claim comparisons to republicans do not matter?
 
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zimmer said:
She was the overwhelming favorite to win in 08 too. What happened? A rookie, a never-done-nuth'in Marxist won the nomination.
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She made a couple large, fatal mistakes in her campaign. She is unlikely to make those mistakes again.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

j-mac said:
The chatter for about 5 years has been Martin O'Malley from Maryland....God help us!
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That's just because Maryland doesn't want him anymore, either.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

j-mac said:
And here I thought repub's were having trouble with splits it their party....Demo's seem to be conflicted even within their own thoughts....
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j-mac said:
No, you fail at trying as hard as you can in trying to deflect the thread topic into a discussion about republicans....This isn't about the repub potential field, if you want to talk about that then start your own thread.
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Here is a typical fail thread, illustrated perfectly. Note that the very start of the first post in the thread talks about republicans, then compares them to democrats. When facts come up, and that comparison isn't as good any more, making comparisons to republicans is deflecting.

Sorry J-mac, you tried being dishonest, you got caught at it, the fault lies with you.
 
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Mike.Redd said:
That maybe correct. I saw this article this morning and it seems you have hit the nail on the head.
NUGENT: Media covers Hillary’s ass; GOP is scared of her claws - Rare.us
and yes it is an article by Ted Nugent... Dont judge just because of that...
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When ted can see the overwhelming flaw in the BS article and the Op cannot, it is time for the person who made this thread and the article to see a doctor because i am pretty sure their brain has litterally turned into tapioca. I am not doctor house, but i am pretty sure someone's synapses were spaced a little too far apart.
 
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I'm pretty much a Dem, and Hillary's alright. The only real beef I have with her is when she fabricated a story about traveling to Bosnia during the civil war, especially since her husband took so long in doing anything about the war crimes committed there.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

poweRob said:
by all means, keep picking your own. BTW... how's that been working out for you?
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All things considered, except for President, pretty good. By many measurements, probably better than the Democrats. So by all means, keep picking your own.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

zimmer said:
Obama was weak and has poor character. He comes with more radikal baggage than an A380 can carry.

Nobody in the McCain or Romney campaigns went for the jugular, and with the state of our cheerleading journ-O-lists, Republicans had to drive the story and put the nostrils of the journ-O-lists in the dung to make sure they notice it.
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LoL, when I read your posts I imagine Hulk Hogan using his entertainment voice doing a skit for WWF. You're dancing around the room screaming, ripping your shirt off, pointing a rifle around and firing off shots. Its hilarious.
 
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Redress said:
Here is a typical fail thread, illustrated perfectly. Note that the very start of the first post in the thread talks about republicans, then compares them to democrats. When facts come up, and that comparison isn't as good any more, making comparisons to republicans is deflecting.

Sorry J-mac, you tried being dishonest, you got caught at it, the fault lies with you.
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:lamo Good grief, the language you use is hilarious....I assure you if you treat people like this in real life, well, all I can say is thank goodness you're a woman.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

j-mac said:
:lamo Good grief, the language you use is hilarious....I assure you if you treat people like this in real life, well, all I can say is thank goodness you're a woman.
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You hung yourself, no need to make physical threats because you're embarrassed.
 
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Verax said:
You hung yourself, no need to make physical threats because you're embarrassed.
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Physical threats? I have not done that, you may need lessons in comprehension as well...And as far as 'hanging myself' nah, just dealing with the usual gnats that gather when they don't like a topic and decide to attack the poster and derail the thread instead of discussing the article...I understand, you don't like what was written then talk about the demo field and we can discuss it, but continue down this road and you are no better than the screaming 5 year old in line at the local store crying because they want the candy mom won't buy for them....annoying, and obnoxious.


Moving on.
 
Re: Hillary Clinton tops list of Dems voters don't want in 2016

If he plays his cards right, I don't think any Dem candidate could handle Rand Paul. He definitely resonates with the right and he is liberal enough on social issues (minus abortion) that he would bring some independents/moderate Dems to his side. I don't say that because I'm a fan of his dad. Each man is his own man and Rand deserves to be vetted just like any other candidate. However, I do believe he has enough crossover appeal that he could win it. I'm sure some will disagree, however, I think he'll prove my point.
 
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