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US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

Yeah but nothing like a party.....they might have to check with Trump tho. As he might have bought their casinos.

Doubt it. He's so heavily leveraged in the ones he owns now, he's been forced to take a day job on TV to make ends meet. Buying Casinos in Peshawar (Monaco of Pakistan) might be a smidge beyond the Donald's reach, financially.
 
Actually there are MANY reports on how Ambassador Stevens walked out among the Libyans, much to his paid security detail's angst. His RSO was quite nervous about security, the one who was not present in country at the time of the attack.

I love how you now embrace the lame stream media on this. gospel to you now... :lol:

And again the threats are constant deadlines come and go constantly. Operations run even in high risk environments. Threats are never 'dismissed' if there isn't confirmation from several sources it is difficult to pull the plug at every rumor, or shut down all embassies/consulates/missions in the area every time there is a rumor. That is handing the terrorists too many easy victories.

A republican politician makes a claim on TV and it is gospel, Hillary or Obama's people say something and it's a total lie- you are very selective.

And you are clueless on how many actual agents were anywhere near the Consulate... you really think 69 were in Benghazi??? they would have been tripping over each other.

Now on what a majority thinks- once again I believe the radical right is fooling only itself...



Yes, there are many reports that were out about Stevens and being out amongst the Libyans. Which has nothing to do with the Night of or the day before with what Stevens had to say. Which Hicks and others Brought out with their testimony. Also has nothing to do with Stevens being used with a CIA operation. Nor what he stated to McCain.

Nah not at all as I used more overseas News Sources which can be looked at in all the threads on Benghazi. Plus I used all the fact checkers. So there goes another assumption of yours and all that assuming you are use to.

Yeah yeah......what you think you know from training, is complete total difference when it comes to reality. Especially with Blown operations, safe-houses, People being injured, and killed.

No I doubt I am clueless......as actually there was more. As it wasn't US Armed Forces holding down Gadhafi's warehouses. But then any with that so called experience you TRY to harp on, would have understood who was stockpiling Gadhafi's weapons. Especially on that side of Libya and in around Benghazi. Even after Hillary testified to securing warehouses......again Plural.

Also no one said anything about a majority radical Right thinking.....just that the majority of the US population. Doesn't think like you.
 
They did have security at the Embassy, but consulates are usually not as well guarded. It's also not normal for the Ambassador to be at a consulate for an extended period. For example, there's a Russian consulate in Seattle -- but it's not as heavily guarded as the Embassy in Washington, and the Ambassador rarely, if ever, goes there.
Seattle isn't a hostile environment full of gun wielding religious extremists who kill people for not adhering to their crazy ideologies.

It seems kind of fishy that the Ambassador would leave the relative security of the Embassy for a far less secure Consulate where the CIA was operating unless he was involved in what the CIA was doing.
Nobody knows, and nobody will ever know why he went to the CIA.

When we were training them, back in the heyday, we called 'em 'Contractors'. 'Ours' did a variety of missions- checkpoints, High Value Personnel Close Escort, High Risk Convoy Escort, Facility guard.

Korea is a tad different as it is still technically a war zone.

The Marine Security Guard consists of 1000 Marines for 150 locations. typical detachment is 5 men. Their mission is to guard the classified equipment and materials. (wiki)

Some call them contractors still, but for me, possibly most military mechanics and engineers, a contractor is just a guy who would come in and do the advanced technical crap on our equipment that we weren't allowed to do.
 
Yes, there are many reports that were out about Stevens and being out amongst the Libyans. Which has nothing to do with the Night of or the day before with what Stevens had to say. Which Hicks and others Brought out with their testimony. Also has nothing to do with Stevens being used with a CIA operation. Nor what he stated to McCain. Nah not at all as I used more overseas News Sources which can be looked at in all the threads on Benghazi. Plus I used all the fact checkers. So there goes another assumption of yours and all that assuming you are use to. Yeah yeah......what you think you know from training, is complete total difference when it comes to reality. Especially with Blown operations, safe-houses, People being injured, and killed. No I doubt I am clueless......as actually there was more. As it wasn't US Armed Forces holding down Gadhafi's warehouses. But then any with that so called experience you TRY to harp on, would have understood who was stockpiling Gadhafi's weapons. Especially on that side of Libya and in around Benghazi. Even after Hillary testified to securing warehouses......again Plural. Also no one said anything about a majority radical Right thinking.....just that the majority of the US population. Doesn't think like you.

Your still thrashing around, chasing one wild ass rumor after another. The night and day before- a major CIA operation is running out of the exposed consulate- IF Ambassador Stevens had REAL worries, why did he go? There was ZERO need for the ambassador to meet anyone at the consulate vs the much better protected Embassy? Why overnite at the exposed Consulate? I imagine lots of worries float about, like rummy's 'snowflakes' that constantly peppered his people with often contradictory messages.

Hicks is just doing the CYOA crap. Angry, hurt, mourning his boss's loss. Other say what? yeah they did... :roll:

Most was contradictory and unsubstantiated crap. AC130s there... not there... circled overhead.... never took off.

you used nothing but your own bias. polls show Americans think congress shouldn't be wasting their time on benghazi, 41% of republicans say this is the worst political scandal in US history- though 39% don't know where it is.... very telling only 20% of Independents agree. 56% of voters say Immigration is more important and 52% say back round checks are more important. Voters trust hillary over congress on Benghazi 49/39% (UPI)

Newsmax says 53% of Americans think the White House is hiding something AND also think the investigation is politically motivated 57%. I see hiding something to mean anything from E-Vile intent to national security. Very telling- 57% of Independents see politics behind the investigation.

While McCain and others tried desperately to paint ambassador Rice and the Obama administration as engaged in 'watergate' (that's a republican reference isn't it?) style cover up but the public isn't buying in (just the radical right)- 54% believe the Administration said what it thought was true in the early stages.

Now I said it is only the radical right ranters who think there is a scandal behind benghazi. So try and keep the twisting on target.
 
No I doubt I am clueless......

Why couldn't someone else have said this? I just happen to like you, so I'm not going to put it in my signature. I just wish someone else said it.....
 
Your still thrashing around, chasing one wild ass rumor after another. The night and day before- a major CIA operation is running out of the exposed consulate- IF Ambassador Stevens had REAL worries, why did he go? There was ZERO need for the ambassador to meet anyone at the consulate vs the much better protected Embassy? Why overnite at the exposed Consulate? I imagine lots of worries float about, like rummy's 'snowflakes' that constantly peppered his people with often contradictory messages.

Hicks is just doing the CYOA crap. Angry, hurt, mourning his boss's loss. Other say what? yeah they did... :roll:

Most was contradictory and unsubstantiated crap. AC130s there... not there... circled overhead.... never took off.

you used nothing but your own bias. polls show Americans think congress shouldn't be wasting their time on benghazi, 41% of republicans say this is the worst political scandal in US history- though 39% don't know where it is.... very telling only 20% of Independents agree. 56% of voters say Immigration is more important and 52% say back round checks are more important. Voters trust hillary over congress on Benghazi 49/39% (UPI)

Newsmax says 53% of Americans think the White House is hiding something AND also think the investigation is politically motivated 57%. I see hiding something to mean anything from E-Vile intent to national security. Very telling- 57% of Independents see politics behind the investigation.

While McCain and others tried desperately to paint ambassador Rice and the Obama administration as engaged in 'watergate' (that's a republican reference isn't it?) style cover up but the public isn't buying in (just the radical right)- 54% believe the Administration said what it thought was true in the early stages.

Now I said it is only the radical right ranters who think there is a scandal behind benghazi. So try and keep the twisting on target.


They already Said It......evidently they thought there was a Need for Stevens to meet the Turk Envoy. So that fact doesn't change no matter how you talk about some need. Or ask your questions.

We aren't talkin about that aspect of the plane being there or not there. Nor any others really. Also Hicks isn't the only. There is even Hillary's own people admitting to what they said. Or did.

I have all my links up in the Benghazi threads. Several of them. It's you as usual that's always coming light to any party.

No go back and read the thread in that post you didn't say it was only the radical right ranters think there is a scandal. So it's not me twisting anything that's you. Which is the norm when you start to talk about what you don't know.

Which is why you keep looking to get more into Benghazi. Looking to deflect over that issue. As well as avoid this topic for this thread.
 
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Why couldn't someone else have said this? I just happen to like you, so I'm not going to put it in my signature. I just wish someone else said it.....

Well.....it is stating a fact. As clueless would denote not knowing anything. Which just can't be associated with me. Especially around those assuming types.
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So it was a mistake not to close Benghazi due to a supposedly-known threat but closing embassies now is a mistake. Interesting.

Its called Republican "logic". Whatever Obama does is wrong.
 
They already Said It......evidently they thought there was a Need for Stevens to meet the Turk Envoy. So that fact doesn't change no matter how you talk about some need. Or ask your questions. We aren't talkin about that aspect of the plane being there or not there. Nor any others really. Also Hicks isn't the only. There is even Hillary's own people admitting to what they said. Or did. I have all my links up in the Benghazi threads. Several of them. It's you as usual that's always coming light to any party. No go back and read the thread in that post you didn't say it was only the radical right ranters think there is a scandal. So it's not me twisting anything that's you. Which is the norm when you start to talk about what you don't know. Which is why you keep looking to get more into Benghazi. Looking to deflect over that issue. As well as avoid this topic for this thread.

Again you dodge away from reason to continue to beat the one drum. Again why would the US Ambassador have to go to the highly exposed Consulate to do a routine meet instead of the far more secure Embassy- the reason is that was a cover for another meet that blew up in the CIA's face.

Hicks is the 'only' the rest are pure bunk... planes here refused there, can't take-off and other crap. More spin and BS... you claim the majority this and that but again the polls i cite say otherwise...

And yes it is the right wing ranters doing all they can to make this a scandal to use in 2014/16. As the polls show most of the citizens are not interested.

But keep dancing, flailing away....
 
Again you dodge away from reason to continue to beat the one drum. Again why would the US Ambassador have to go to the highly exposed Consulate to do a routine meet instead of the far more secure Embassy- the reason is that was a cover for another meet that blew up in the CIA's face.

Hicks is the 'only' the rest are pure bunk... planes here refused there, can't take-off and other crap. More spin and BS... you claim the majority this and that but again the polls i cite say otherwise...

And yes it is the right wing ranters doing all they can to make this a scandal to use in 2014/16. As the polls show most of the citizens are not interested.

But keep dancing, flailing away....


Nah.....see that's where you go back to assuming again. I don't play dodgeball.....and Never with Progressives.

First off.....the building wasn't a Consulate. Second from the Beginning I stated Stevens was there for another reason. Which involved meeting the Turkish Ambassador's Envoy. Which the Turks had closed their Embassy in Libya. With the ouster of Gadhafi. So once again you aren't saying anything here, answering your own question.

Second.....throughout this whole thread I didn't say anything about Planes other to mention that no one had brought up anything about planes. Or anyone saying something about planes.

Another thing I didn't claim anything worth noting about the majority. Other than the fact that the majority out there doesn't think like you do.

Actually the only one in here throwing out all the partisan comments.....about Right radicals, Right Wingers, and anything else that one can think of about those on the Right.....is you!

As usual.....you do end up proving. What your screen name reads.
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Are you trying to say that these men and women who risk their lives for the nation in very risky covert operations are so easily bought off if there was real wrong doing?

Seriously???? :(

This is what she typed, sure looks like she is saying 69 agents are being bought off by holding their pensions over their heads. To think so many agents who risk so much everyday they are in a far off land can be so blackmailed.... she didn't stop and think who she was talking about.

And while we are at it, just how does she know all 69 are getting the golden parachute?

Exactly- no one knows what has happened to the 69 agents that were supposedly on the ground in Libya. She doesn't say ANY of that, just a early retirement and full pension hinging on their silence- as if these people who risk far more in a single day than most here ever have in their lives would NOT speak up if a serious wrong doing occurred.

The fact is we may never know all that happened simply because national security is involved- NOT because a whole class of agents got retired to cover 'team Obama'. (and no oath of secrecy prevents pointing out wrong doing or talking to congress- they just can't Snowden.

I had no idea posters could be this naive. Do you really think that CIA operatives aren't involved in things that break the laws of the United States of America every day of the week?? Do you think a CIA agent can all of a sudden contact someone in Congress to give testimony and not find their ass at the bottom of Lake Mead the next morning? Or a fatal heart attack by noon?

They are doing dirty jobs. Lousy stinking dirty jobs they won't be telling their grandkids about any time soon. That's why their wives don't even know what they do for a living. Yep, they're brave. Yep, we're safer because of them. But they want to live, so they're pretty much going to do what they're told.

This country has covered up more illegal and scumbag actions under the guise of national security than any nation on earth.
 
Nah.....see that's where you go back to assuming again. I don't play dodgeball.....and Never with Progressives. First off.....the building wasn't a Consulate. Second from the Beginning I stated Stevens was there for another reason. Which involved meeting the Turkish Ambassador's Envoy. Which the Turks had closed their Embassy in Libya. With the ouster of Gadhafi. So once again you aren't saying anything here, answering your own question. Second.....throughout this whole thread I didn't say anything about Planes other to mention that no one had brought up anything about planes. Or anyone saying something about planes. Another thing I didn't claim anything worth noting about the majority. Other than the fact that the majority out there doesn't think like you do. Actually the only one in here throwing out all the partisan comments.....about Right radicals, Right Wingers, and anything else that one can think of about those on the Right.....is you! As usual.....you do end up proving. What your screen name reads.
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Oh I never said you was playing with me, more like just playing with yourself.

The compound was the Consulate grounds, the Ambassador was in the consulate blg. You originally asked if 69 agents were in the area why couldn't 'they' get the Consulate personnel help... course you have run away from that as the concept is throw mud and when it gets washed away just make more mud. :roll:

From the beginning the whine has evolved- first the Obama administration just let 4 men die, then State just let 4 men die. That Obama was covering up his poor judgement, then hillary, now i guess it has devolved to the CIA.

Oh many right wing ranters have gone on and on about planes, here there everywhere. Not just planes but gunships!

No sir, you claimed the majority don't think like I do...that this is a crap storm for political gain by the GOP.

This wasn't a callous Obama, an incompetent Hillary, nor even a scared Ambassador- but keep trying, though I doubt this affects 2014/16 at all.... :peace

I ain't quite right, this is true, but I ain't near as wrong as you.... :peace
 
I had no idea posters could be this naive. Do you really think that CIA operatives aren't involved in things that break the laws of the United States of America every day of the week?? Do you think a CIA agent can all of a sudden contact someone in Congress to give testimony and not find their ass at the bottom of Lake Mead the next morning? Or a fatal heart attack by noon?

They are doing dirty jobs. Lousy stinking dirty jobs they won't be telling their grandkids about any time soon. That's why their wives don't even know what they do for a living. Yep, they're brave. Yep, we're safer because of them. But they want to live, so they're pretty much going to do what they're told.

This country has covered up more illegal and scumbag actions under the guise of national security than any nation on earth.

Oh I was around for Iran/Contra...I KNOW the CIA can and does break laws... THAT was not my issue with your post.

That you used the very idea that 69 agents can be bought off with early retirement and pensions when the secrecy they swear doesn't just begin to start until they get the gold watch... :roll:

Given yet another blogger claims that those involved with the Benghazi mess are being monthly poly'd so I think the 'reports' of a mass early retirement are as usual a tad off base...

Just so we have it VERY clear- you think if these agents talk to Congress they will be killed????

Seriously??? :shock:
 
Oh I was around for Iran/Contra...I KNOW the CIA can and does break laws... THAT was not my issue with your post.

That you used the very idea that 69 agents can be bought off with early retirement and pensions when the secrecy they swear doesn't just begin to start until they get the gold watch... :roll:

Given yet another blogger claims that those involved with the Benghazi mess are being monthly poly'd so I think the 'reports' of a mass early retirement are as usual a tad off base...

Just so we have it VERY clear- you think if these agents talk to Congress they will be killed????

Seriously??? :shock:

I think CIA agents are in danger if they're even thinking about going rogue. Yes, I do. What you are calling a bribe, I would call a reward. Of course I don't know that's being done.
 
Oh I never said you was playing with me, more like just playing with yourself.

The compound was the Consulate grounds, the Ambassador was in the consulate blg. You originally asked if 69 agents were in the area why couldn't 'they' get the Consulate personnel help... course you have run away from that as the concept is throw mud and when it gets washed away just make more mud. :roll:

From the beginning the whine has evolved- first the Obama administration just let 4 men die, then State just let 4 men die. That Obama was covering up his poor judgement, then hillary, now i guess it has devolved to the CIA.

Oh many right wing ranters have gone on and on about planes, here there everywhere. Not just planes but gunships!

No sir, you claimed the majority don't think like I do...that this is a crap storm for political gain by the GOP.

This wasn't a callous Obama, an incompetent Hillary, nor even a scared Ambassador- but keep trying, though I doubt this affects 2014/16 at all.... :peace

I ain't quite right, this is true, but I ain't near as wrong as you.... :peace



Nah not even close or in your wildest dreams or fantasies. If I had to correlate it to something. It would be like a lawnmower and the grass. Which you aren't the Lawnmower, ever!

Wrong.....I never asked about the 69 CIA peeps another brought up. So once again that you getting yourselfs all twisted up.

Actually from the beginning of this thread it was about us Closing those Middle East Embassies and Consulates. So once again you are wrong.

Your comment about the Right wingers and what they say wherever else doesn't apply to here as none said it here concerning anything about planes or gunships. Not in this thread.

Yes.....despite your disagreement. The majority of the population in the US does not think like you do. That's a fact.

This wasn't a callous Obama, an incompetent Hillary, Nor even scared ambassador what? Do you even know what you are saying or do you hear voices too?

As you state.....U aint, which you wont get any disagreement out of me and most others. As for myself. I am not perfect. But over 98% of the time. At least I know what I am talking about. Which Can't be said for the same as yourself. Especially around here.
 
I think CIA agents are in danger if they're even thinking about going rogue. Yes, I do. What you are calling a bribe, I would call a reward. Of course I don't know that's being done.

You dance divinely... almost as well as MMC, now let me lead for a turn or two...

WTF is 'going rogue'? you mean start their own agency? or change sides, play both sides.... call wikileaks?

Since the Administration, FBI and CIA have all confirmed the agents can go to Congress at any time what going rogue do you mean?

Since some Republican congressmen claim to know agents who were willing to talk before the great pay-off why don't they just go ahead and issue the subpoenas???

If you think the early retirement is a reward what is this going rogue crap?

So basically on a rumor of early retirement- even as the right wing bloggers claim the Benghazi crew is being subjected to monthly polygraphs- you claim to both think the agents are being rewarded AND you don't know what's being done??? :roll:
 
That sounds like an extremely stupid security plan, especially since the closure period is but a single day and has been announced in advance. Terrorists may not be the brightest bunch but they do react to our security measures, or the lack thereof. ;)

So if Obama doesn't take security measures the tea partiers blame him and if he does take security measures the tea partiers blame him

Maybe the problem is the stupidity of the tea partiers.
 
According to what I was hearing this morning.....even their family members have been threaten. Doesn't look good or Right.....at all.

69 people there on the ground.....yet we couldn't get anybody there to help. :roll:

oh yes you did say it... your memory is bad, looks like the lawnmower isn't as sharp as it claims... :2wave:
 
oh yes you did say it... your memory is bad, looks like the lawnmower isn't as sharp as it claims... :2wave:

Nice try.....notice once again with what you twisted. No question by me. I never questioned it. But do keep up with what you are saying. Also I said there was more than 69. Which you at first tried to deny and then deflected with everything else under the sun. Until once you were reminded about Hillary testifying to securing all of Gadhafi's warehouses.

Course that was you trying to say that most of the country thinks like you do too. But then we already knew it was the usual assuming thing you do.
 
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Closing the embassies for one day will do exactly what to protect American civilians in those regions? Protection of embassy staff who live off-grounds?

And, slam of all slams, rumored to happened on President Obama's birthday. But I thought they were his friends.....

Didn't they always close all the Middle Eastern embassies on GW's birthday too?
 
This Sunday is Obama's Birthday.....The US is being Threatened that our Embassies in the ME, will be hit. This is all we are being told at this time. Other than it may go beyond this Sunday. Thoughts upon the matter?



The United States is closing all of its embassies Sunday in the Middle East and parts of Asia because of a possible al-Qaeda-related threat to diplomatic posts worldwide, American officials told NBC News on Thursday.

The U.S. has been "apprised of information that out of an abundance of caution and care for our employees and others who may be visiting our installations, that indicates we should institute these precautionary steps," said State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf.

A senior State Department official told NBC News that all embassies that are usually open in Sundays — primarily those in Muslim countries and Israel — would be closed Aug. 4 "out of an abundance of caution." Sunday is a normal workday in those countries.

Sunday is President Barack Obama's 52nd birthday, and it's also the day Iran inaugurates Hassan Rowhani as its new president. But U.S. officials told NBC News they had heard nothing to indicate that the date was chosen for either of those reasons.....snip~

US closing embassies in Mideast for a day amid possible Qaeda threat

The closings are prudent.:peace
 
Heya CJ. :2wave: Did they ever close our Embassy in Israel on GW's B-day?

I don't think they closed anything on GW's birthdays - Texans like to celebrate and aren't afraid to do so.
 
Interesting to watch this event evolve and the right is evolving along with it trying to figure out how to still make this all Obama's fault. Will you guys ever give it a rest and realize it is all far, far beyond you?
 
I don't think they closed anything on GW's birthdays - Texans like to celebrate and aren't afraid to do so.

Well.....I think if Israel has word that there will be attacks. I think they will be on point.

What I find interesting is how the left thinks somehow this is Obama's fault for closing up the Embassies and doing what Kerry and Others want with the State Dept.

Funny no one was blaming him for closing up the Embassy in Egypt this last month with what has been going on there with the MB. I think they have had a few days where they closed down our Embassy.

Did you hear any others from the Right complaining he was closing up these Embassies over warnings thru al-Qaeda of an imminent attack?
 
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