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US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

On Benghazi:

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As for the new shut-downs, Obama just can't win. When he doesn't do anything he gets grilled. When he does something he gets grilled. Seems sensible.
 
On Benghazi:

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As for the new shut-downs, Obama just can't win. When he doesn't do anything he gets grilled. When he does something he gets grilled. Seems sensible.

Well before there was Georgie Boy.....there was Bilbo the Clown. Aka Bill Clinton.

For Susan Rice, Benghazi Was Kenya 1998 Deja Vu

Parallels: A mission was attacked after warnings, Americans were killed after security requests were denied, and a diplomat went on TV to explain it all — our current U.N. ambassador, after embassy bombings in 1998.

'What troubles me so much is the Benghazi attack in many ways echoes the attacks on both embassies in 1998, when Susan Rice was head of the African region for our State Department," Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, said Wednesday after two hours with our U.N. ambassador. "In both cases, the ambassador begged for additional security."

In the spring of 1998, Prudence Bushnell, the U.S. ambassador to Kenya, sent an emotional letter to Secretary of State Madeleine Albright begging for a more secure embassy in the face of mounting terrorist threats and a warning that she was the target of an assassination plot.

The State Department had repeatedly denied her request, citing a lack of money. But that kind of response, she wrote Albright, was "endangering the lives of embassy personnel."

A matter of months later, on Aug. 7, 1998, the American embassies in Tanzania and Kenya were simultaneously attacked with car bombs. In Kenya, 12 American diplomats and more than 200 Africans were killed.

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Which didn't count those killed in Tanzania either[/B]. Course you didn't think Georgie Boy was even close to the Repeated failures of the Democrats with deaths and injured with Embassies. Which doesn't even count that screw up in Somalia. Which happened under Bilbo's keen eyes.

Notice the same excuses by the Democrats. Especially about that part about after they tightened up security and that part on.....Oh it will never happen again.
 
Nice try.....notice once again with what you twisted. No question by me. I never questioned it. But do keep up with what you are saying. Also I said there was more than 69. Which you at first tried to deny and then deflected with everything else under the sun. Until once you were reminded about Hillary testifying to securing all of Gadhafi's warehouses.

Course that was you trying to say that most of the country thinks like you do too. But then we already knew it was the usual assuming thing you do.

So ya didn't say, ya said, ya said more... you quibble. your point wasn't the exact number- it was your usual wimpy implication of so many in country and no one could come to 'their' help.

Well remind us all what Hillary said about securing all the warehouses? Also remind us who picked the compound Ambassador Stevens died in? (hint he did) testimony before congress 23 jan 2013.

Face it, all you are doing to trying anything and everything to stir the partisan muck.... and FYI I posted polls to show more Americans think this is political crap.

You posted......
 
Well, I did bring up the fact of the Turks Envoy being there when they had closed their Embassy in Libya. As well as the Libyan freighter that showed up off the Cost of Libya 5 days Prior. While Miraculously the Rebels all of a sudden had some Man Pads.

The same Mad Pads that Hillary testified to that we were trying to secure after the Fall of Gadhafi. Yet somehow the Syrian Rebels got them.

Then there was Stevens meeting that Turk Envoy.....1-2 hrs before the attack took place on our alleged Consulate that was a CIA front.

The ambassador was actually running guns and perhaps fighters to Syria.

Something that is interesting and has not really been mentioned by anyone in regards to Libya is how there is evidence that the deceased ambassador may have been linked to arming rebels in Syria. This is rather important as it shows us info that links Syria and Libya, but also may provide the reason as to why Stevens was there in the first place.

How US Ambassador Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked To Jihadist Rebels In Syria - Business Insider

There is also evidence of fighters being transferred from Libya to Syria.

NATO vs. Syria | The American Conservative
 
I don't think they closed anything on GW's birthdays - Texans like to celebrate and aren't afraid to do so.

He and Cheney would hide in an undisclosed location on his birthday, like he did on 9-11.
 
Well before there was Georgie Boy.....there was Bilbo the Clown. Aka Bill Clinton.

For Susan Rice, Benghazi Was Kenya 1998 Deja Vu

Parallels: A mission was attacked after warnings, Americans were killed after security requests were denied, and a diplomat went on TV to explain it all — our current U.N. ambassador, after embassy bombings in 1998.

'What troubles me so much is the Benghazi attack in many ways echoes the attacks on both embassies in 1998, when Susan Rice was head of the African region for our State Department," Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, said Wednesday after two hours with our U.N. ambassador. "In both cases, the ambassador begged for additional security."

In the spring of 1998, Prudence Bushnell, the U.S. ambassador to Kenya, sent an emotional letter to Secretary of State Madeleine Albright begging for a more secure embassy in the face of mounting terrorist threats and a warning that she was the target of an assassination plot.

The State Department had repeatedly denied her request, citing a lack of money. But that kind of response, she wrote Albright, was "endangering the lives of embassy personnel."

A matter of months later, on Aug. 7, 1998, the American embassies in Tanzania and Kenya were simultaneously attacked with car bombs. In Kenya, 12 American diplomats and more than 200 Africans were killed.

Read More At Investor's Business Daily: For Susan Rice, Benghazi Was Kenya 1998 Deja Vu; Tanzania Too - Investors.com
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Which didn't count those killed in Tanzania either[/B]. Course you didn't think Georgie Boy was even close to the Repeated failures of the Democrats with deaths and injured with Embassies. Which doesn't even count that screw up in Somalia. Which happened under Bilbo's keen eyes.

Notice the same excuses by the Democrats. Especially about that part about after they tightened up security and that part on.....Oh it will never happen again.


Believe me, i'm never condoning the deaths of Americans, I just like to point out that while Obama has made mistakes Bush did too. And people need to remember that.
 
Believe me, i'm never condoning the deaths of Americans, I just like to point out that while Obama has made mistakes Bush did too. And people need to remember that.

It is overly self-referential to call these mistakes, whether under GWB or BHO. The other guy has a plan and capabilities too. Sometimes he wins.:peace
 
It is overly self-referential to call these mistakes, whether under GWB or BHO. The other guy has a plan and capabilities too. Sometimes he wins.:peace

Fair enough. I see you point :lol:
 
So ya didn't say, ya said, ya said more... you quibble. your point wasn't the exact number- it was your usual wimpy implication of so many in country and no one could come to 'their' help.

Well remind us all what Hillary said about securing all the warehouses? Also remind us who picked the compound Ambassador Stevens died in? (hint he did) testimony before congress 23 jan 2013.

Face it, all you are doing to trying anything and everything to stir the partisan muck.... and FYI I posted polls to show more Americans think this is political crap.

You posted......

No See that's where your cornfuzzlement sets in. I never come wimpy with anything, and especially never with the likes with one such as yourself. Not anywheres nor ever at anytime. Nowhere ever. You can be quite assured of that.

You didn't show polls that people all think like you do. So wrong again there. But only you would think the majority of the population thinks like you. No one else does.

That's all she said they were to secure all of Gadhafi's warehouses. That's what she testified to. Again Plural. That they were specifically going after those Man-Pads. So no you cant change up what she testified too.

No what you need to face is.....that you don't have clue as to what you are talking about when you try to do all that thinking for others. As well as that, despite your laments for Obama and the Democratic Underground. That you wont be able to prevent others from talking about what Team Obama and the left doesn't want to hear.
 
You dance divinely... almost as well as MMC, now let me lead for a turn or two...

WTF is 'going rogue'? you mean start their own agency? or change sides, play both sides.... call wikileaks?

Since the Administration, FBI and CIA have all confirmed the agents can go to Congress at any time what going rogue do you mean?

Since some Republican congressmen claim to know agents who were willing to talk before the great pay-off why don't they just go ahead and issue the subpoenas???

If you think the early retirement is a reward what is this going rogue crap?

So basically on a rumor of early retirement- even as the right wing bloggers claim the Benghazi crew is being subjected to monthly polygraphs- you claim to both think the agents are being rewarded AND you don't know what's being done??? :roll:

Okay, bear with me, two-step. ;) When I posted about an early retirement pay-off, that was my thought and my thought alone. I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that if a Federal agency spending OPM wants to "make everybody happy," there are ways to do that. If you got the impression that I was claiming that was fact? My bad. I wasn't. It's my opinion.

I never read anything about "certain Congressmen" claiming they were paid off. It's just my logical brain extrapolating the end game.

My thought about "going rogue" means they've decided they've had enough. They're going to come forward. Something their oath tells them they can never do. Ever.
 
No See that's where your cornfuzzlement sets in. I never come wimpy with anything, and especially never with the likes with one such as yourself. Not anywheres nor ever at anytime. Nowhere ever. You can be quite assured of that. You didn't show polls that people all think like you do. So wrong again there. But only you would think the majority of the population thinks like you. No one else does. That's all she said they were to secure all of Gadhafi's warehouses. That's what she testified to. Again Plural. That they were specifically going after those Man-Pads. So no you cant change up what she testified too. No what you need to face is.....that you don't have clue as to what you are talking about when you try to do all that thinking for others. As well as that, despite your laments for Obama and the Democratic Underground. That you wont be able to prevent others from talking about what Team Obama and the left doesn't want to hear.

Sorry Charlie you do the passive aggressive wimp thing... I never said all. You are constantly changing what I say to suit your failed argument. The polls show a majority think the benghazi crap is politically motivated.

You have to show where the SoS was privy to the true mission of the CIA operatives in country. You'll also have to prove the story she gave wasn't the official cover story to in the interest of national security.

I have read Hillary's testimony before Congress- where does she say the 'they' were there to secure the warehouses?

You source nothing, just prattle on.
 
supposed to be in Jordan next Tuesday, really hope this is all hype from US intelligence
 
Doubtful... know an Op is going on, yes, the details most likely not as she has been around the possible scandal tree a few times.

It is required that the SoS be briefed to a level that allows responsible policy coordination and direction.:peace
 
It is required that the SoS be briefed to a level that allows responsible policy coordination and direction.:peace

So the SoS was briefed on Iran/Contra???

Coordinate what?

Direct what of a CIA op????

Given all that was on the SoS's plate due to the Arab Spring and general unrest in Africa, which she testified to at the hearing 23 jan 2013, I doubt she knew more than CIA op and it damn sure is not her place to disclose anything more than that.
 
So we've told the world that we're closing 22 of our embassies on Sunday. Okay. What's to keep the plan from being pushed up a day, to Saturday, back a day, to Monday, or simply moved to any random day in the future?

I'm not sure what I think about this massive international announcement, frankly. It just informed whoever was planning the event(s) that the jig is up, time to switch to Plan B.

There's always a Plan B. :)
 
Sorry Charlie you do the passive aggressive wimp thing... I never said all. You are constantly changing what I say to suit your failed argument. The polls show a majority think the benghazi crap is politically motivated.

You have to show where the SoS was privy to the true mission of the CIA operatives in country. You'll also have to prove the story she gave wasn't the official cover story to in the interest of national security.

I have read Hillary's testimony before Congress- where does she say the 'they' were there to secure the warehouses?

You source nothing, just prattle on.

Sorry my name aint Charlie.....and one things absolutely certain. I would never do the passive aggressive wimp thing. Not even while standing directly in front of you at any time. Not even if you had a weapon or firearm.....tuff guy.

No you said most with your polls. But failed once again to note that the polls have nothing to do with the majority of the population thinking like you do.

Also no one need to show where SOS was Privy to the true mission of the CIA operatives in country. She already testified to Gadhafi's warehouses and Man-Pads. Moreover as SOS she would only need to speak with who was Heading the CIA or any That were heading up that which was connected to Consular Operations.

Well if you read it you would have known where it was and what came up about it.

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Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Jan. 23, 2013

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton testified before Congress today that there is "no doubt" that the terrorists who attacked a BP facility in eastern Algeria last week were armed with weapons that slipped out of Libya, and that rounding up those weapons was one reason Americans were in Benghazi when American diplomatic facilities there were attacked, with deadly results, last September 11.

"One of the reasons that we and other government agencies were present in Benghazi was exactly that. We had a concerted effort to track down and find and recover as many MANPADS and other very dangerous weapons as possible," she said before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, referring to man-portable, shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles. "The Pandora's Box of weapons coming out of these countries in the Middle East and North Africa is the source of one of our biggest threats. There is no doubt that the Algerian terrorists had weapons from Libya… So we just have to do a much better job."

In the weeks after Gadhafi's fall, the U.S. State Department set up a mission to go into Libya and round up an estimated 20,000 MANPADS and other dangerous weapons, an effort that was based partly out of Benghazi and continued up to the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attack there that claimed the life of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

Though the State Department is at the forefront of the weapons mission, Clinton's reference to the "other government agencies" involved likely referred in part to the CIA, which operated out of an "annex" in Benghazi – a building Clinton today referred to as belonging to then-CIA director David Petraeus

But in the case of Benghazi, another sub-group, Ansar al-Sharia, was thought to be involved and in Algeria, Belmokhtar's splinter group, the "Signers With Blood Brigade," took credit for the attack.....snip~

Clinton: 'No Doubt' Algeria Attackers Had Libyan Weapons - ABC News

Oh you read it.....yet here is ABC stating on the date of her testimony and what she testified to.

What happened? Seems you missed all that testimony and even that part about the weapons mission to go after Gadhafi's weapons was Under the State Dept.

Here it is all in Black and white. Pretty much showing you have absolutely no clue as to what you are talking about over Benghazi. As well as that you can't read Clintons Testimony.

Which really isn't surprising coming from what you already admitted about yourself. :lol:
 
So the SoS was briefed on Iran/Contra???

Coordinate what?

Direct what of a CIA op????

Given all that was on the SoS's plate due to the Arab Spring and general unrest in Africa, which she testified to at the hearing 23 jan 2013, I doubt she knew more than CIA op and it damn sure is not her place to disclose anything more than that.

You are correct it was not her place to disclose anything. It is no one's place. Nonetheless, the SoS is briefed in detail on such activities. You are also correct that the SoS does not coordinate or direct the op. But the SoS coordinates and directs US foreign policy, and to do that needs to know what the CIA is doing.:peace
 
Sorry my name aint Charlie.....and one things absolutely certain. I would never do the passive aggressive wimp thing. Not even while standing directly in front of you at any time. Not even if you had a weapon or firearm.....tuff guy.

No you said most with your polls. But failed once again to note that the polls have nothing to do with the majority of the population thinking like you do.

Also no one need to show where SOS was Privy to the true mission of the CIA operatives in country. She already testified to Gadhafi's warehouses and Man-Pads. Moreover as SOS she would only need to speak with who was Heading the CIA or any That were heading up that which was connected to Consular Operations.

Well if you read it you would have known where it was and what came up about it.

nc_hillary_clinton_ll_130123_wg.jpg

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton testifies on Capitol Hill in Washington, before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Jan. 23, 2013

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton testified before Congress today that there is "no doubt" that the terrorists who attacked a BP facility in eastern Algeria last week were armed with weapons that slipped out of Libya, and that rounding up those weapons was one reason Americans were in Benghazi when American diplomatic facilities there were attacked, with deadly results, last September 11.

"One of the reasons that we and other government agencies were present in Benghazi was exactly that. We had a concerted effort to track down and find and recover as many MANPADS and other very dangerous weapons as possible," she said before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, referring to man-portable, shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles. "The Pandora's Box of weapons coming out of these countries in the Middle East and North Africa is the source of one of our biggest threats. There is no doubt that the Algerian terrorists had weapons from Libya… So we just have to do a much better job."

In the weeks after Gadhafi's fall, the U.S. State Department set up a mission to go into Libya and round up an estimated 20,000 MANPADS and other dangerous weapons, an effort that was based partly out of Benghazi and continued up to the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attack there that claimed the life of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans.

Though the State Department is at the forefront of the weapons mission, Clinton's reference to the "other government agencies" involved likely referred in part to the CIA, which operated out of an "annex" in Benghazi – a building Clinton today referred to as belonging to then-CIA director David Petraeus

But in the case of Benghazi, another sub-group, Ansar al-Sharia, was thought to be involved and in Algeria, Belmokhtar's splinter group, the "Signers With Blood Brigade," took credit for the attack.....snip~

Clinton: 'No Doubt' Algeria Attackers Had Libyan Weapons - ABC News

Oh you read it.....yet here is ABC stating on the date of her testimony and what she testified to.

What happened? Seems you missed all that testimony and even that part about the weapons mission to go after Gadhafi's weapons was Under the State Dept.

Here it is all in Black and white. Pretty much showing you have absolutely no clue as to what you are talking about over Benghazi. As well as that you can't read Clintons Testimony.

Which really isn't surprising coming from what you already admitted about yourself. :lol:

Well you are an ace at passive aggressive online. The stand before you line is classic internet BS.

I did read the testimony. the 'secure the warehouses bit was the question. You claimed she did that, in actuality she said weapons from Libya had already left the country and been used in other terrorist attacks. that in NO way means she ran the CIA side of the Op as the CIA doesn't report to State. the most interesting thing about this is who in State actually worked on the project? What was State's side of this and what was the CIAs?

As far as anyone has said only two people from State were present in Benghazi on 9-11, the Ambassador and an IT Technican.

Sounds to me like State sent up an empty storefront for the CIA to operate as 'State' employees- which Dougherty claimed he was in an interview before his death.

The State dept didn't run the weapons search but rather lent a cover for the CIA to do so.
 
You are correct it was not her place to disclose anything. It is no one's place. Nonetheless, the SoS is briefed in detail on such activities. You are also correct that the SoS does not coordinate or direct the op. But the SoS coordinates and directs US foreign policy, and to do that needs to know what the CIA is doing.:peace

So State knew about Iran/Contra?

If you look at the flow chart State has no control over the CIA.

There is this thing called need to know, the CIA is always worried about leaks from the 'civilians' I don't see them telling anymore than they absolutely had to, I don't see State demanding 'in'.

State may direct overt foreign policy but it does not direct covert foreign programs.
 
So State knew about Iran/Contra?

If you look at the flow chart State has no control over the CIA.

There is this thing called need to know, the CIA is always worried about leaks from the 'civilians' I don't see them telling anymore than they absolutely had to, I don't see State demanding 'in'.

State may direct overt foreign policy but it does not direct covert foreign programs.

Iran-Contra was an illegal activity. It is not a valid analogy. I spent 34 years in that business. The SoS is briefed.:peace
 
This Sunday is Obama's Birthday.....The US is being Threatened that our Embassies in the ME, will be hit. This is all we are being told at this time. Other than it may go beyond this Sunday. Thoughts upon the matter?



The United States is closing all of its embassies Sunday in the Middle East and parts of Asia because of a possible al-Qaeda-related threat to diplomatic posts worldwide, American officials told NBC News on Thursday.

The U.S. has been "apprised of information that out of an abundance of caution and care for our employees and others who may be visiting our installations, that indicates we should institute these precautionary steps," said State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf.

A senior State Department official told NBC News that all embassies that are usually open in Sundays — primarily those in Muslim countries and Israel — would be closed Aug. 4 "out of an abundance of caution." Sunday is a normal workday in those countries.

Sunday is President Barack Obama's 52nd birthday, and it's also the day Iran inaugurates Hassan Rowhani as its new president. But U.S. officials told NBC News they had heard nothing to indicate that the date was chosen for either of those reasons.....snip~

US closing embassies in Mideast for a day amid possible Qaeda threat

That sounds like a coward Obamy move...
 
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