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Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

Your statement is that Romney and Obama are the same and that couldn't be further from the truth as the records show. So keep blabbering.

No the records don't show that. Sorry, but enjoy the president you deserve. Romney was shown to be a big government guy just like Obama. Romneycare and him wanting to INCREASE the military budget MORE than what they asked for. Sorry you don't like the facts. You and the GOP got what you deserve.
 
Seems so, albeit, I think his ideology is more populist. The real problem is he, in my opinion, is surrounded by Capitalists (Wall Street folks enriched by capitalizing ventures) and not nearly enough if any influencial (ear of the President) Political Economists (Robert Reiches of the world) with a broad understanding of macroeconomics within polities.

So Obama is doing exactly what Clinton and Bush 43 did before him: focusing on income from Capital and assuming income from Labor will take care of itself, which it hasn't since the only winners are Capitalists, already enjoying record profits and wealth, while our middle class continues to shrink.

Except the capitalists are paying more taxes than ever before, and a greater share of taxes. And we JUST raised the top rate rate while sparing Labor (plus special fees on high income earners from obama care). Clinton LOWERED cap gains. Bush LOWERED top tax rates. Obama has done and proposed the opposite.

The evidence does not support your opinion.
 
Except the capitalists are paying more taxes than ever before, and a greater share of taxes. And we JUST raised the top rate rate while sparing Labor (plus special fees on high income earners from obama care). Clinton LOWERED cap gains. Bush LOWERED top tax rates. Obama has done and proposed the opposite.

The evidence does not support your opinion.

When our entire middle class falls below the taxable income threshold, the poor abused Wealthy will pay 100% of the taxes. OMG!!! How will they cope????
 
Except the capitalists are paying more taxes than ever before, and a greater share of taxes. And we JUST raised the top rate rate while sparing Labor (plus special fees on high income earners from obama care). Clinton LOWERED cap gains. Bush LOWERED top tax rates. Obama has done and proposed the opposite.

The evidence does not support your opinion.

No true. Obama pushed for a 2 year extension on Bush 43's temporary (had a sunset clause) tax cuts, and it merely was allowed to time-out, finally, and years too late, returning to Clinton tax rates.

Don't be ridiculous.
 
Oh, wow, project much? What a bunch of bs. What house cleaning, Democrats retained the WH and the Senate and Republicans retained the House. Is that your idea of House Cleaning?

Keep picking up after "us" Guys while the economy remains in the toilet and there are record numbers dependent on liberalism and Obama. That "mess" we left you in 2008 was created with the help of a Democrat Congress and here we are almost 5 years later and the mess is worse unless you believe adding 6.2 trillion to the debt and having 2 million fewer people employed than when the recession began is an improvement?

Leadership is a concept that you and your ilk don't understand.

Worse? This is worse than the brink of a depression? LOL ... but excuse me, we have to go back to cleaning up your mess ...
 
LOL...and you accuse Conservatives of wanting slavery? What happened our payriotic duty to question our elected leaders?

Are you kidding? I question Obama all of the time, the most recent is his attempt to strike a deal with GOP ... He's starting to remind me of Charlie Brown and Lucy ... she keeps pulling the ball away, but he keeps trying to kick it ... What will it take for this guy to figure out that beginning in 2008 (at least) the GOP decided that they would do everything they could to make him fail, even if it meant screwing the country? ... it has bordered on treason ... criticize away and good luck in 2016 ... (But, the racist tinged criticism I will be on your ass like brown on brown rice.)
 
Are you kidding? I question Obama all of the time, the most recent is his attempt to strike a deal with GOP ... He's starting to remind me of Charlie Brown and Lucy ... she keeps pulling the ball away, but he keeps trying to kick it ... What will it take for this guy to figure out that beginning in 2008 (at least) the GOP decided that they would do everything they could to make him fail, even if it meant screwing the country? ... it has bordered on treason ... criticize away and good luck in 2016 ... (But, the racist tinged criticism I will be on your ass like brown on brown rice.)

All the time? Right! You're too busy lickin his shoes...lol!
 
All the time? Right! You're too busy lickin his shoes...lol!

I can't help you with your shoe fetish (really? you think about licking people's shoes? whatever turns you on ...), but if you haven't noticed the criticism Obama has gotten from the left, then you really have been spending too much time thinking about shoe licking ...
 
So keeping more of what you make is also a problem for you? Why do you care how much a corporation makes or gets to keep out of that revenue? What is it about liberals that make them jealous of what others make or get to keep? You think that the Federal Govt. should be 3.77 trillion dollars on top of 50 sovereign states that provide many of the same services? Obama has supporters brainwashed

The problem is the stifling rules and regulations placed against small business while government gives corporations handouts and welfare abound. The corporations are given all the breaks in taxation and regulation while the common man is taken over the barrel. The death of free market capitalism was a bad thing, but some of you seem to cheer in the fascist Corporate capitalist state we've erected in its place.

If you do not understand the problem with the aristocracy, then I'm not sure you'll ever understand the virtues of the free market.
 
LOL your comment is funny considering that's all you do is provide nothing more than opinions. I think my comment stands, enjoy the president you deserve.

The entire forum is opinions. Often people post links to political blogs that are also opinions. I would prefer to read a poster's self edeveloped opinion rather than an opinion he or she lifted from someone else.
 
Thats literally what he is doing here!!! Lowering taxes..

Do you remember the first time Obama claimed to have lowered taxes? You know what he actually did, right? Remember that he claimed that everyone would pay less in taxes and indeed he could make such a claim for a short while, but then, that is the trick. The game works by people being ignorant of their own finances and having piss poor memories. In fact, no one got a tax cut, but his withholding trick made everyone think they were paying less as each paycheck they were taking more home. In reality though, all they did was owe more at the end of the year and most people were none the wiser of what happened.

This case isn't much different. He makes sure everyone can see that he is lowering the rates, but all the while he is taking all these steps to bring in more money to the government from these same people. He doesn't make for a very good magician, but he seems to trick enough people, I suppose.
 
I can't help you with your shoe fetish (really? you think about licking people's shoes? whatever turns you on ...), but if you haven't noticed the criticism Obama has gotten from the left, then you really have been spending too much time thinking about shoe licking ...

All i hear from the Libbos is crying about how anyone that disagrees with his policies is a racist. "Boo hoo hoo, yer a racist!"
 
No the records don't show that. Sorry, but enjoy the president you deserve. Romney was shown to be a big government guy just like Obama. Romneycare and him wanting to INCREASE the military budget MORE than what they asked for. Sorry you don't like the facts. You and the GOP got what you deserve.

Romney isn't President and would have been the President that I deserved. The qualifications for President are something that Romney had and Obama only met the minimum requirements. Romney's position of Governor and Private business person trumps our community agitator. You don't seem to understand the difference.
 
When our entire middle class falls below the taxable income threshold, the poor abused Wealthy will pay 100% of the taxes. OMG!!! How will they cope????

You think that there are enough rich people to fund the liberal spending appetite? You could capture all the income of everyone in the top 5% and not impact the debt or the cost of the govt.
 
Romney isn't President and would have been the President that I deserved. The qualifications for President are something that Romney had and Obama only met the minimum requirements. Romney's position of Governor and Private business person trumps our community agitator. You don't seem to understand the difference.

Yes, both he and Obama were for BIG government. You got the president you deserved. Enjoy! I'm happy you're unhappy about the president.
 
Worse? This is worse than the brink of a depression? LOL ... but excuse me, we have to go back to cleaning up your mess ...

Your opinion noted, how do you know we were on the brink of depression and what exactly did Obama do to prevent that? You see, you continue to buy the rhetoric but there is nothing to support your claim. The next President has an additional 6.2 trillion debt to clean up, an economy that is stagnant, and job creation that isn't keeping up with population growth. That next President will be the leader that Obama never was.
 
The problem is the stifling rules and regulations placed against small business while government gives corporations handouts and welfare abound. The corporations are given all the breaks in taxation and regulation while the common man is taken over the barrel. The death of free market capitalism was a bad thing, but some of you seem to cheer in the fascist Corporate capitalist state we've erected in its place.

If you do not understand the problem with the aristocracy, then I'm not sure you'll ever understand the virtues of the free market.

So show me the line item in the budget that supports your contention of large corporation handouts. Thanks in advance. You seem to think that a company keeping more of what they earn is a govt. handout.
 
Yes, both he and Obama were for BIG government. You got the president you deserved. Enjoy! I'm happy you're unhappy about the president.

Romney came from MA and worked with a Democratic Legislature. He balanced the budget and grew jobs neither of which Obama has come close to doing.
 
All i hear from the Libbos is crying about how anyone that disagrees with his policies is a racist. "Boo hoo hoo, yer a racist!"

put those shoes down and start paying more attention ...
 
You think that there are enough rich people to fund the liberal spending appetite? You could capture all the income of everyone in the top 5% and not impact the debt or the cost of the govt.

No; not even. And certainly not the higher conservative spending appetite (GOP control parallels higher spending growth than times of Dem control)

The point that I'm making, to nimrods who lament that the rich already pay too much tax, is that the reason for it is the poor, and increasingly the middle class, are making so little -- they've fallen of the figgin' tax rolls. They're paying too much, because they have the LION'S SHARE OF THE INCOME!!!!
 
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Romney came from MA and worked with a Democratic Legislature. He balanced the budget and grew jobs neither of which Obama has come close to doing.

And was for BIG government, he even wanted to give the military MORE than what they asked for. You should like Obama. You got the president you deserve! Again, I'm happy you're unhappy.
 
Has anyone noticed that the Manchurian Moonbat said he wanted to lower taxes on corporations and use the money that the lower rates brought in to spend on jobs programs for the middle class? Lower tax rates = more revenue. If he knew what else to to to grow the economy of coarse that would work. I'm just amused he actually said it.
 
No; not even. And certainly not the higher conservative spending appetite (GOP control parallels higher spending growth than times of Dem control)

The point that I'm making, to nimrods who lament that the rich already pay too much tax, is that the reason for it is the poor, and increasing the middle class, are making so little -- they've fallen of the figgin' tax rolls. They're paying too much, because they have the LION'S SHARE OF THE INCOME!!!!


How would you know the Conservative spending appetite? The last Bush budget was 3 trillion dollars. what is your solution, higher taxes and more handouts? Isn't 50 million on food stamps enough? How about 100 million Americans on some form of taxpayer assistance? You think the liberal social agenda has worked? I never see any solutions from liberals,
 
And was for BIG government, he even wanted to give the military MORE than what they asked for. You should like Obama. You got the president you deserve! Again, I'm happy you're unhappy.

I know this is hard for you to understand but the role of the govt. is defense and regardless of how much waste you think is in that budget it remains 800 billion out of a 3.6 trillion dollar budget. You can cut the defense budget completely and still have trillion dollar deficits and no defense. Yours is nothing more than typical liberal whining without thinking through your position.
 
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