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Surprise! Huge US Budget Surplus Shatters Record

Misterveritis said:
Aren't anti-Obama and Pro-United States the same thing? How can one love the United States and love the monster who is destroying it? A love for one implies a disdain for the other.
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What you're trying to demonstrate is the simple thesis which holds: THERE ARE NO LEFTIST AMERICANS.

This of course resting upon the immutable natural principle which requires it one can-NOT simultaneously adhere to the thesis and the antithesis. Thus given that Left-think rejects the principles which define America, they cannot legitimately claim to BE Americans.
 
Misterveritis said:
Wait! I am not allowed to print money?
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Well OF COURSE YOU CAN!

It's just that in so doing, you undermine the currency held by your neighbors, thus undermining their means to exercise their rights to exchange the value they earned and possess as a function of their efforts in producing it.

Therefore ya can't do so on a morally sound basis… thus providing that you should not. As to do so, you fail to bear the responsibilities that sustain your own rights. Which means that when ya print money, ya forfeit your rights.

But, yes… YOU CAN! But it's CRAZY expensive.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I'd call a surplus, even a temporary one, and a halving of the deficit an improvement regardless of the letter after the president's name. What would you call it?
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so a reduction in the deficit is a surplus? I will take a surplus period as well regardless of who the President is. That isn't going to happen with Obama who proposed a 3.77 trillion dollar budget.
 
AmericanbyChoic said:
Ahh… The old "CIRCULAR ARGUMENT" scam…

Nothing circular about my reasoning scamp.

Socialism is a logically invalid, thus an intellectually unsound fiscal concept. Therefore socialist policy will not result in sound fiscal results. The US economy has suffered the decaying effects of socialist reasoning for decades and, over the last 6 years the most recent socialist experiment has ONCE AGAIN PROVEN: Socialism SUCKS!

Now if you need to organize that into a circle, on the hopes that by virtue of your new arrangement that such invalidates the argument, well that's fine with me… I'll just point out that it was your reasoning that invalidated it, which given your socialist nature, it follows that such would be the case.

Now if you'd like to show a socialist policy which you feel could potentially result in fiscal viability, I'd love to hear all about it.

And here's me, wishing YOU, the VERY BEST of luck in getting that done.
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Conservative said:
so a reduction in the deficit is a surplus? I will take a surplus period as well regardless of who the President is. That isn't going to happen with Obama who proposed a 3.77 trillion dollar budget.
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He is talking about the surplus in June bright eyes.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Yes, that's exactly what your post was, but it was pretty transparent.

Socialism means government ownership of the means of production.
You're quite right that it doesn't work, never has anywhere it's been tried.
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I suppose what we endure is more fascist than socialist. How much of the means of production does the government have to own before we get your approval to call our centrally planned economy socialist? The trend continues in the wrong direction.
 
Dittohead not! said:
If that happens, then the deficit will have been reduced by more than 50%.

During the campaign, neither candidate even suggested that the deficit could be reduced that much so quickly.
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So what? The debt is what matters, and it is still increasing. The problem with government is not that it has deficits, but that it spends so much money. As long as spending is increasing, it doesn't really matter how big the deficit is.
 
Misterveritis said:
You probably owe everybody.

How can one love both the country and the monster? Prior to WWII could one love Germany and Herr Hitler? Many did.
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likening Obama to Hitler ... cute ... but I must say that I take great pleasure in knowing that every day you have to confront the reality that Barack H. Obama is the President of the United States of America and the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America and he is your president ... :lamo
 
windowdressing said:
likening Obama to Hitler ... cute ... but I must say that I take great pleasure in knowing that every day you have to confront the reality that Barack H. Obama is the President of the United States of America and the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America and he is your president ... :lamo
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All that means is that you like the Obama regime more than you love liberty. I get it. Every generation has its tyrants to battle. You are on the side of the tyrants. We have seen bad times before. Roosevelt was a disaster for this nation. He had the good sense to die in office and be on the winning side in a world war.

And the monster in the White House, what has he done to benefit the United States?
 
windowdressing said:
likening Obama to Hitler ... cute ... but I must say that I take great pleasure in knowing that every day you have to confront the reality that Barack H. Obama is the President of the United States of America and the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States of America and he is your president ... :lamo
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You seem to have a lot of passion for someone who has generated the very poor economic results we have today. Is it his vacations that have impressed you the most because it certainly cannot be the economic results generated? stop buying what you are told and actually get the facts about what he has done.
 
Lakryte said:
So what? The debt is what matters, and it is still increasing. The problem with government is not that it has deficits, but that it spends so much money. As long as spending is increasing, it doesn't really matter how big the deficit is.
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Of course the debt is still increasing. As long as there is a deficit, the debt will continue to increase.
And, sure, the government spends too much money, and will as long as the citizenry expects the government to continue to try to solve all our problems.
My point is that, had Romney won the election, and had the deficit been cut in half, the Republicans would be screaming that their guy cut the deficit in half and that the MSM was ignoring it.
and my point is that it really doesn't matter who who is in the WhiteHouse, at least not when it comes to the size of the deficit.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Of course the debt is still increasing. As long as there is a deficit, the debt will continue to increase.
And, sure, the government spends too much money, and will as long as the citizenry expects the government to continue to try to solve all our problems.
My point is that, had Romney won the election, and had the deficit been cut in half, the Republicans would be screaming that their guy cut the deficit in half and that the MSM was ignoring it.
and my point is that it really doesn't matter who who is in the WhiteHouse, at least not when it comes to the size of the deficit.
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That is your opinion, how do you know what Romney would have done? Think Romney would have taken over GM/Chrysler, proposed Obamacare, bailed out Union contracts with stimulus money, had 21 plus million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers 4 years after the end of the recession? One month does not make a surplus and we are still headed to a huge yearly deficit. What has Obama proposed that actually cut spending?
 
Dittohead not! said:
Of course the debt is still increasing. As long as there is a deficit, the debt will continue to increase.
And, sure, the government spends too much money, and will as long as the citizenry expects the government to continue to try to solve all our problems.
My point is that, had Romney won the election, and had the deficit been cut in half, the Republicans would be screaming that their guy cut the deficit in half and that the MSM was ignoring it.
and my point is that it really doesn't matter who who is in the WhiteHouse, at least not when it comes to the size of the deficit.
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Ok. And I would have been saying so what if Romney cut the deficit in half, just as I am saying so what now. I'm not a Republican, and I didn't vote for Romney. Your point is valid in response to all these conservative Republicans saying its nothing, but by responding to me you're preaching to the choir.
 
Conservative said:
You seem to have a lot of passion for someone who has generated the very poor economic results we have today. Is it his vacations that have impressed you the most because it certainly cannot be the economic results generated? stop buying what you are told and actually get the facts about what he has done.
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Funny, I didn't know Obama has the power to do whatever he wants.
 
Misterveritis said:
All that means is that you like the Obama regime more than you love liberty. I get it. Every generation has its tyrants to battle. You are on the side of the tyrants. We have seen bad times before. Roosevelt was a disaster for this nation. He had the good sense to die in office and be on the winning side in a world war.

And the monster in the White House, what has he done to benefit the United States?
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you O.K.? wow ... I picture you in some basement, surrounded by boxes of ammunition, cleaning your guns ...am I close?
 
Conservative said:
You seem to have a lot of passion for someone who has generated the very poor economic results we have today. Is it his vacations that have impressed you the most because it certainly cannot be the economic results generated? stop buying what you are told and actually get the facts about what he has done.
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actually I'm not his biggest fan, but do you liken him to Hitler as well? thinking that that is a tad over the top makes me passionate about the president? some of you posters truly are scary, but it especially scares me to think you may have procreated ...
 
windowdressing said:
you O.K.? wow ... I picture you in some basement, surrounded by boxes of ammunition, cleaning your guns ...am I close?
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Actually, I am in my office, a nice, 24' x 28' space with eight large windows, 14' ceilings, eleven seven-foot high oak bookcases, and a half-dozen computers.

I am fine. It is the nation that is ill.
 
Misterveritis said:
Aren't anti-Obama and Pro-United States the same thing? How can one love the United States and love the monster who is destroying it? A love for one implies a disdain for the other.
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AmericanbyChoic said:
What you're trying to demonstrate is the simple thesis which holds: THERE ARE NO LEFTIST AMERICANS.

This of course resting upon the immutable natural principle which requires it one can-NOT simultaneously adhere to the thesis and the antithesis. Thus given that Left-think rejects the principles which define America, they cannot legitimately claim to BE Americans.
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Conservative said:
That is your opinion, how do you know what Romney would have done? Think Romney would have taken over GM/Chrysler, proposed Obamacare, bailed out Union contracts with stimulus money, had 21 plus million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers 4 years after the end of the recession? One month does not make a surplus and we are still headed to a huge yearly deficit. What has Obama proposed that actually cut spending?
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What Romney would have done is a matter of conjecture.
I think he would have been more successful at getting Congress to actually address the problems we face, and might have been better at foreign affairs than Obama is, which is why I supported him back in '08.

My point is that the rabidly partisan among us would have been leaping and shouting that Romney singlehandedly cut the deficit in half, and not ranting about how the debt is still growing.
 
Misterveritis said:
Actually, I am in my office, a nice, 24' x 28' space with eight large windows, 14' ceilings, eleven seven-foot high oak bookcases, and a half-dozen computers.

I am fine. It is the nation that is ill.
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on a Sunday no less! instead of dwelling on what's wrong, think of where we would be if Bush had had another term or if Romney, the vulture capitalist (Gingrich's label, not mine), had won ...

now that you have your bookshelves, put some books in there and read them once in a while ... not the ones by Beck, Palin, or Rand ... the other ones ... a little knowledge will go a long way in your posts ... take care ...
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Funny, I didn't know Obama has the power to do whatever he wants.
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Funny, how little you understand about today's Democratic Party. Seems Bush was able to create the mess all by himself according to Obamabots. Double standards?
 
windowdressing said:
actually I'm not his biggest fan, but do you liken him to Hitler as well? thinking that that is a tad over the top makes me passionate about the president? some of you posters truly are scary, but it especially scares me to think you may have procreated ...
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There are some similarities, both had followers who bought the rhetoric and ignored the results. No matter how bad people said Hitler was his supporters continued to buy the rhetoric.
 
Conservative said:
There are some similarities, both had followers who bought the rhetoric and ignored the results. No matter how bad people said Hitler was his supporters continued to buy the rhetoric.
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is there no limit to the hatred you have for your President? a hitler comparison, really?
 
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