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Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

I hate to assume. Perhaps the poster was speaking of The Law, but it's not clear that that was what he/she was referring to in his/her cheesy dodge. So if whining about everything as "plunder " is where the retard was going with that, why not just say that?
Hmm. Some people are wound way too tight.
If you happen to post something worth discussing I will consider it. But probably I won't.
 
Why are those who call themselves "Conservative" so often uneducated?

It is apparent from the posts I read, that "Conservatives" have little knowledge of history or economics, all the while claiming that their views are the only ones which matter.
 
Why are those who call themselves "Conservative" so often uneducated?

It is apparent from the posts I read, that "Conservatives" have little knowledge of history or economics, all the while claiming that their views are the only ones which matter.
Sometimes the problem lies with you. Many of the things you know aren't so.

We all suffer from it relative to others. Every one of us know some things very well and know other things incorrectly.
 
Why are those who call themselves "Conservative" so often uneducated?

It is apparent from the posts I read, that "Conservatives" have little knowledge of history or economics, all the while claiming that their views are the only ones which matter.

Now there's a massive generality. Perhaps it's because people on this forum who call themselves conservative are, demographically speaking, older than others and further away from their college brainwashing classes.
 
Now there's a massive generality. Perhaps it's because people on this forum who call themselves conservative are, demographically speaking, older than others and further away from their college brainwashing classes.


Why do so many on the right rant and rave about the "librul indoctrination centres" known as universities? I particularly wonder about this when I look at the loudest voices on the right. Many of them quite proudly display their various advanced degrees - citations that they gained from one or more of those "librul indoctrination centres" It does appear that all of that indoctrination and brain washing was rather ineffective, or maybe, just maybe - it was never there to begin with.
 
Why do so many on the right rant and rave about the "librul indoctrination centres" known as universities? I particularly wonder about this when I look at the loudest voices on the right. Many of them quite proudly display their various advanced degrees - citations that they gained from one or more of those "librul indoctrination centres" It does appear that all of that indoctrination and brain washing was rather ineffective, or maybe, just maybe - it was never there to begin with.

Why? Because studies show it to be true:

College faculties, long assumed to be a liberal bastion, lean further to the left than even the most conspiratorial conservatives might have imagined, a new study says.

By their own description, 72 percent of those teaching at American universities and colleges are liberal and 15 percent are conservative, says the study being published this week. The imbalance is almost as striking in partisan terms, with 50 percent of the faculty members surveyed identifying themselves as Democrats and 11 percent as Republicans...

The findings, by Lichter and fellow political science professors Stanley Rothman of Smith College and Neil Nevitte of the University of Toronto, are based on a survey of 1,643 full-time faculty at 183 four-year schools. The researchers relied on 1999 data from the North American Academic Study Survey, the most recent comprehensive data available.

College Faculties A Most Liberal Lot, Study Finds (washingtonpost.com)
 
My guess to the Republican/conservative reaction to this news:

Despite the fact they constantly blast Obama for an economy with slumping take home pay and an increase of low wage jobs, Republicans/conservatives will now come out to gleefully point out how the liberal agenda is destroying the economy and taking away jobs.

That's merely a guess...let's see how it plays out.

for the GOP's sake, hopefully better than it did in November of 2012 ...
 
could it be that a disproportionate number of people with Ph.D.s teaching at universities are liberal because when you think scientifically, look at data, the best supported positions are what we consider liberal positions?

Don't be silly. ;) ;)

I think they're liberal because they've never had to live in the real world. They make phenomenal salaries; have tenure; fabulous retirement programs; excellent healthcare plans. "What's the problem?" they're most likely to believe.

That, combined with the neigh-unto worshiping adoration they get from young people, gives them a completely warped outlook on real world problems of the working man.
 
Don't be silly. ;) ;)

I think they're liberal because they've never had to live in the real world. They make phenomenal salaries; have tenure; fabulous retirement programs; excellent healthcare plans. "What's the problem?" they're most likely to believe.

That, combined with the neigh-unto worshiping adoration they get from young people, gives them a completely warped outlook on real world problems of the working man.

Phenomenal salaries? Maybe some of the superstars, but trust me, a starting ass't prof. salary in a CA private institution of $50,000, especially after all those years of study and tuition, is not phenomenal ... And adoration by students? LOL ... Maggie, you need to do some more research on this ...
 
It's merely a function of being better educated and knowledgeable, and could happen to any one of us: smarten up and you'll undoubtedly abandon rightie myths about the economy, since the facts are quite compelling (Dems spend less on average, and grow the economy more, on average)

I can't afford to smarten up. I live in Illinois. Democrats have driven this state to the edge of bankruptcy and have failed to even address the problems. My real estate taxes are $4,800 for a 3-bedroom 2-bath 1200 s.f. home in suburban Chicago; working class neighborhood; 1-car garage; no family room.

Nope. Can't afford it.
 
I can't afford to smarten up. I live in Illinois. Democrats have driven this state to the edge of bankruptcy and have failed to even address the problems. My real estate taxes are $4,800 for a 3-bedroom 2-bath 1200 s.f. home in suburban Chicago; working class neighborhood; 1-car garage; no family room.

Nope. Can't afford it.

Some alternatives to graduate school at Ivy League universities:

1. Get a library card
2. Google information not opinion nor parsed information (opinion)
3. View historical data objectively and question what might be causal, even at the expense of what you might wish the answer to be; find the answers, do not coerce answer that fit prior misconceptions.
4. Feed your curiosity; less will seem curious for you.
5. Hold your city and county officials' feet to the fire, and know that your property taxes are being spent in ways that might actually better your community and better-educate young minds.
 
Why do so many on the right rant and rave about the "librul indoctrination centres" known as universities? I particularly wonder about this when I look at the loudest voices on the right. Many of them quite proudly display their various advanced degrees - citations that they gained from one or more of those "librul indoctrination centres" It does appear that all of that indoctrination and brain washing was rather ineffective, or maybe, just maybe - it was never there to begin with.
Years ago when I got my undergraduate degree I had no idea the faculty were all liberals, with a sprinkling of socialists, Marxists, liberals and communists. I was too busy trying to find some girl to sleep with to notice.
When I got my Masters degree I knew that more of the professors were liberals, socialists and so forth. I was taking courses more technical and less subject to nonsense. Even my honors military history courses were bereft of the America-haters.

I survived. I thrived.

Not everyone is so fortunate.
 
It's merely a function of being better educated and knowledgeable, and could happen to any one of us: smarten up and you'll undoubtedly abandon rightie myths about the economy, since the facts are quite compelling (Dems spend less on average, and grow the economy more, on average)
Or, if you were brought up; with the right value system you will reject Marxism. You will reject the Democratic party and the Establishment Republicans. You will reject the socialists in both parties.
 
could it be that a disproportionate number of people with Ph.D.s teaching at universities are liberal because when you think scientifically, look at data, the best supported positions are what we consider liberal positions?
No. But it could be that the ones who select other teachers are liberals themselves.
I spend my days with a great many people with engineering, physics and math degrees. Most of them are younger than me. A few are liberals. Okay. One is. All of the rest recognize that merit is a much better method to distribute the rewards of life than socialism is.
 
No. But it could be that the ones who select other teachers are liberals themselves.
I spend my days with a great many people with engineering, physics and math degrees. Most of them are younger than me. A few are liberals. Okay. One is. All of the rest recognize that merit is a much better method to distribute the rewards of life than socialism is.

when you write posts like this you simply help me make my point ... You're juxtaposing "merit" and "socialism?" Really?
I think I've had it for the day ... you cons are simply too much work, and half the time one doesn't know where to begin because there are so many things wrong with your posts ... perhaps another time when I have more energy ... take care ...
 
when you write posts like this you simply help me make my point ... You're juxtaposing "merit" and "socialism?" Really?
I think I've had it for the day ... you cons are simply too much work, and half the time one doesn't know where to begin because there are so many things wrong with your posts ... perhaps another time when I have more energy ... take care ...
Socialists do not rely upon merit. If they did they would be conservatives.
 
Socialists do not rely upon merit. If they did they would be conservatives.
Who decides what is meritorious?

Who decides what that merit is worth?

If your rely is "the market"... who controls that market?
 
I can't afford to smarten up. I live in Illinois. Democrats have driven this state to the edge of bankruptcy and have failed to even address the problems. My real estate taxes are $4,800 for a 3-bedroom 2-bath 1200 s.f. home in suburban Chicago; working class neighborhood; 1-car garage; no family room.

Nope. Can't afford it.

Two baths? Holy crap! You are obviously living far beyond your means....
 
Or, if you were brought up; with the right value system you will reject Marxism. You will reject the Democratic party and the Establishment Republicans. You will reject the socialists in both parties.

Then it would seem I was brought up with the right value system, since I do reject Marxism.
 
Who decides what is meritorious?
Who decides what that merit is worth?
If your rely is "the market"... who controls that market?
Where I work the decisions on merit began with a small group of three of us who were responsible for accomplishing the mission. From there our prioritized lists went higher, got tweaked and then came back to us.

The market is just a shorthand way of saying you get to decide for you and I get to decide for me.
 
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