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Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

cpwill said:
Yeah! **** poor people, amIright?!?

Who needs jobs?!? not poor people! who needs a lower cost of living - not poor people!?! no sir.



when will we learn that increasing the cost of hiring Americans is just a way to shift wealth from poor Americans to poor illegal immigrants?
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Apart from the Jobs lost once the store is open, how many Jobs will be lost from not building the stores in the first place?

How many millions of dollars will not be spent on building materials?

I thought the economy needed Jobs and business. I guess not.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1062034530 said:
How about this? Don't like Walmart, don't shop there. Apparently those who work at Walmart do so for various reasons. One is because some are retired and want part-time work. Another is because they can't find a job anywhere else, in many instances because they don't have the skills, training, or education necessary.

When will those pushing a "living minimum wage" understand implementation will restrict job growth and create more unemployment, not create jobs. (Like it or not)

In other words, it will do much more harm than good to those you want the government, i. e. taxpayers, to care for.
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Plus nobody can define that term.
 
polgara said:
Good morning, captainawesome. :2wave:

:agree: Whatever is the problem with those fleeing Mexico for the United States? Don't they realize how good they have it in Mexico? :shock:
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Let's be clearabout the kind of people that are "fleeing" Mexico.

They are the losers that can't do anything for themselves, and it is much easier to not do anything in the US than Mexico.

You don't see doctors, lawyers, or engineers leaving Mexico do you?

Don't use the losers as representatives of the Mexican population just like you shouldn't use a crack whore as a representative of the US population.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Minimum wage should be based on regional standard of living....
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Really? Whois standard of living?

A mn with 3 kids and a mortage or a 19 year old living with his parents?

I can tell you if I, as a bsiness owner, had to pay a living wage to my employee, depending on hisw circumstance, I woud only hire single people that didn't have much to pay every month. Nobody else would be able to get a job with me.
 
I just see Wal-Mart workers as the discriminated group de jour. We only hear people talking about this that don't work there.

We don't hear large groups of the employees saying anything anywhere about this situation.

How many posters on this board work at Wal-Mart or have worked at Wal-Mart?
 
The Baron said:


An article that mentions nothing of wages and isolated instances of stupidity. Hardly a condemnation of WalMart as a whole.
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I would see a situation like that as kidnapping and that is a legal matter.

Here where I am the manager of the store told her employee to use a floor cleaner that had an internal combustión engine while customers were present.

I got a hedache from it.

I found her and yelled at her about it.

She looked stunned I said anything.

That does not show anything about Wal-Mart itself, just a stupid manager.
 
pbrauer said:
What great way to kept them out of your town, just increase the minimum wage.


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Walmart says it will cancel its plans to build three new stores in D.C. if local lawmakers approve a bill that would force the retailer to pay its employees at least $12.50 an hour.

Alex Barron, a regional general manager for Walmart U.S., writes in an op-ed published in the Washington Post Tuesday that the company feels the D.C. Council's proposed "living wage" legislation “would clearly inject unforeseen costs into the equation that will create an uneven playing field and challenge the fiscal health of our planned D.C. stores.”


Walmart currently has three other new stores under construction in the area, and Barron says those stores will also be jeopardized if the bill passes.

Read more: Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes | Fox News

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I just realized...maybe if we can get minimum wage increases in ALL 50 states Wal-Mart will close all their stores here, move to China, and sell the Chinese all the cheap crap they manufacture back to them. Ya think? :lol:
 
Captain Adverse said:
I just realized...maybe if we can get minimum wage increases in ALL 50 states Wal-Mart will close all their stores here, move to China, and sell the Chinese all the cheap crap they manufacture back to them. Ya think?
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The problem with your theory is that all prices will likely rise negating the effect and just pushing more out of the workforce as it usually does...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
The problem with your theory is that all prices will likely rise negating the effect and just pushing more out of the workforce as it usually does...
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Awww, and I was hopin the Chinese would enjoy massive chain stores selling them back their own crap. Oh well. lol
 
Captain Adverse said:
Awww, and I was hopin the Chinese would enjoy massive chain stores selling them back their own crap. Oh well. lol
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That "crap" is what many consumers choose to purchase over the alternatives. If we don't want citizens to have that choice, increase duties of those items, including tech products manufactured there...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
The problem with your theory is that all prices will likely rise negating the effect and just pushing more out of the workforce as it usually does...
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citation?
 
poweRob said:
citation?
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It's my informed opinion. Do you want to get up my ass to really see its origin? I'm not here to dance for you. You can research the opinions of others for yourself where you'll find some that agree and some that don't...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
It's my informed opinion. Do you want to get up my ass to really see its origin? I'm not here to dance for you. You can research the opinions of others for yourself where you'll find some that agree and some that don't...
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You clearly presented it as fact and not an opinion so I simply asked you to prove it. If it is your "informed opinion" I'm asking for you to provide what informed your opinion.

AlabamaPaul said:
The problem with your theory is that all prices will likely rise negating the effect and just pushing more out of the workforce as it usually does...
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See that bolded part there? That's you saying it's not an opinion but rather that it is a fact because it has happened before. I didn't know I was getting up your ass by merely asking you to back up your claim and in doing so you'd fly off the handle. I guess the real question is... Y U mad?
 
poweRob said:
You clearly presented it as fact and not an opinion so I simply asked you to prove it.



See that bolded part there? That's you saying it's not an opinion... instead, that is you saying it is fact because it has happened before. I didn't know I was getting up your ass by merely asking you to back up your claim and in doing so you'd fly off the handle. I guess the real question is... Y U mad?
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I'll see your bolded part and raise you your citation to disprove it as it is simply an informed opinion. I'm not mad, but I do get frustrated when someone jumps into a conversation demanding what he/she wants to see from someone else...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
I'll see your bolded part and raise you your citation to disprove it as it is simply an informed opinion. I'm not mad, but I do get frustrated when someone jumps into a conversation demanding what he/she wants to see from someone else...
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Well it is a debate forum and in debate, it is customarily expected that when someone makes a claim, that they actually prove it rather than just float it out there, present it as fact, and then expect people to believe it. That's not debate really.

I've no desire to spin my wheels on your behalf mired in a logical fallacy of trying to prove a negative also known as Evidence of Absence. Makes no sense. Kind of like your unprovable and baseless claim. But that's neither here nor there I suppose seeing how you are backing away from it now.
 
poweRob said:
Well it is a debate forum and in debate, it is customarily expected that when someone makes a claim, that they actually prove it rather than just float it out there, present it as fact, and then expect people to believe it. That's not debate really.

I've no desire to spin my wheels on your behalf mired in a logical fallacy of trying to prove a negative. Makes no sense. Kind of like your unprovable and baseless claim. But that's neither here nor there I suppose seeing how you are backing away from it now.
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I'm not backing away from anything. I come here for discussion, and I very rarely post links to support my opinions as I'm not out to prove anything to someone else, although you are free to do so in disagreement. IMV, if you need to post a link to what someone else has written, you have little conviction in your own beliefs...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
I'm not backing away from anything. I come here for discussion, and I very rarely post links to support my opinions as I'm not out to prove anything to someone else, although you are free to do so in disagreement. IMV, if you need to post a link to what someone else has written, you have little conviction in your own beliefs...
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Using links to pull in supporting facts, IYO... weakens someone's argument? Interesting.

Debate isn't all opinion you know. Opinion not based in fact is just absolute fruitiness. Having a conviction in your beliefs is solidified when based in fact.
 
poweRob said:
Using links to pull in supporting facts, IYO... weakens someone's argument? Interesting.

Debate isn't all opinion you know. Opinion not based in fact is just absolute fruitiness.
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Well, while you might desire a war of links, I prefer a rational discussion of ideas with points and counter points put forth by individual thought.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Well, while you might desire a war of links, I prefer a rational discussion of ideas with points and counter points put forth by individual thought.
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What I'm finding odd is that you seem to think that "rational discussion of ideas with points and counter points put forth by individual thought", and footnotes/links supporting points and counterpoints somehow can't exist in the same discussion.
 
poweRob said:
What I'm finding odd is that you seem to think that "rational discussion of ideas with points and counter points put forth by individual thought", and footnotes/links supporting points and counterpoints somehow can't exist in the same discussion.
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I don't feel the need to justify my opinions to you or anyone else. If you don't like that type of discussion, move along...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
I don't feel the need to justify my opinions to you or anyone else. If you don't like that type of discussion, move along...
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I'll move along from your opinions. When you state your opinions as unprovable fact, you'll probably see me again.
 
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