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Walmart says it will kill plans to build 3 new stores if DC wage bill passes

Papa bull said:
Wait!? Are you saying you were stating how each company treats its employees as a factual statement without any firsthand experience? That's "making **** up", you know.
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Troll much?
 
Am I missing something? Isn't that the entire topic here..being forced to pay a (uniquely high) minimum wage.




captainawesome said:
Exactly if Walmart doesn't want to pay the min wage they don't have to. No one is forcing them to.
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Fisher said:
My guess is that their DC stores would have a lot of shoplifters.
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yeah why get a job when you can suck on the public tit. That is what the democrats want
 
Top Cat said:
Perhaps you might do a little homework?

The 25 Best Companies To Work For In America - Business Insider

10 Companies With The Best Reputations

Welcome to Forbes

What Makes Costco One of America

You'll note Wal Mart didn't make any of these lists. Big shock.
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You'll note that your opinion on how bad Wal-mart treats its employees is not substantiated by those articles and that without firsthand experience, you're doing nothing but talking out your ass to make factual remarks about those respective corporations' working conditions. So I assumed you must have worked for them instead of assuming that you were talking out your ass. But I stand corrected.
 
Don't know if this has been posted yet but...

D.C. Council approves ‘living wage’ bill over Wal-Mart ultimatum

D.C. lawmakers gave final approval Wednesday to a bill requiring some large retailers to pay their employees a 50 percent premium over the city’s minimum wage, a day after Wal-Mart warned that the law would jeopardize its plans in the city.

The retail giant had linked the future of at least three planned stores in the District to the proposal. But its ultimatum did not change any legislators’ minds. The 8 to 5 roll call matched the outcome of an earlier vote on the matter, taken before Wal-Mart’s warning.

If signed by the mayor, the D.C. Council measure would require retailers with corporate sales of $1 billion or more and operating in spaces 75,000 square feet or larger to pay their employees no less than $12.50 an hour. The city’s minimum wage is $8.25.

In May 2012, union members march with Wal-Mart employees, churchgoers and community leaders to protest the retailer’s presence in the District.

“The question here is a living wage; it’s not whether Wal-Mart comes or stays,” said council member Vincent B. Orange (D-At Large), a lead backer of the legislation, who added that the city did not need to kowtow to threats. “We’re at a point where we don’t need retailers. Retailers need us.”​
 
poweRob said:
The question here is a living wage; it’s not whether Wal-Mart comes or stays
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actually the intent seems rather clear in attacking companies like walmart. Agree or disagree with that, but let's be honest here
 
captainawesome said:
Conservatives are morally bankrupt.
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Give a example then. Of us being " morally bankrupt " as almost every Lib here has justified down every low life, unethical action that's come out of the White House for 5 years.
It seems a bit hypocritical.
 
captainawesome said:
It worked that way for Henry Ford. He paid enough so his employees could afford to buy and it worked.
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It's foolish to apply a arbitrary comparison to justify a really bad idea.

Henry Ford was a bit of a slave driver too, mistreating his workers,forcing them to work long hours in dangerous conditions.

The arbitrarily mandating of wage increases causes the cost of goods and services to rise, as employers try to absorb a cost increase. It's such a shortsighted position I have a hard time believing anyone over the age of 13 advocates a Government entity mandating cost increases on private corporations.

I can't follow an ideology who's concepts only work in a vacuum.
 
poweRob said:
Don't know if this has been posted yet but...

D.C. Council approves ‘living wage’ bill over Wal-Mart ultimatum

D.C. lawmakers gave final approval Wednesday to a bill requiring some large retailers to pay their employees a 50 percent premium over the city’s minimum wage, a day after Wal-Mart warned that the law would jeopardize its plans in the city.

The retail giant had linked the future of at least three planned stores in the District to the proposal. But its ultimatum did not change any legislators’ minds. The 8 to 5 roll call matched the outcome of an earlier vote on the matter, taken before Wal-Mart’s warning.

If signed by the mayor, the D.C. Council measure would require retailers with corporate sales of $1 billion or more and operating in spaces 75,000 square feet or larger to pay their employees no less than $12.50 an hour. The city’s minimum wage is $8.25.

In May 2012, union members march with Wal-Mart employees, churchgoers and community leaders to protest the retailer’s presence in the District.

“The question here is a living wage; it’s not whether Wal-Mart comes or stays,” said council member Vincent B. Orange (D-At Large), a lead backer of the legislation, who added that the city did not need to kowtow to threats. “We’re at a point where we don’t need retailers. Retailers need us.”​
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A living wage as determined by whom ?

Unbelievable.
 
Fenton said:
A living wage as determined by whom ?

Unbelievable.
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As defined by me. Frankly, I've become a bit of a believer in this. Since the laws of supply and demand do not apply to labor, and since employers are all infinitely able to pay higher labor costs out of magical profits, I say we raise the minimum wage to $50 an hour, and we can all have above-average income!
 
captainawesome said:
Exactly if Walmart doesn't want to pay the min wage they don't have to. No one is forcing them to.
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Precisely. They are free to refuse to hire, and free to fire their current employees.
 
TurtleDude said:
yeah why get a job when you can suck on the public tit. That is what the democrats want
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DC has a lot of issues. When I lived there I used to listen to the black talk radio shows from time to time. The level of ignorance and paranoia to the brink of being mental illness I heard would just make you want to flee the country. There were some ubber conservative conspiracy theory type shows that were pretty bad, but I felt that the black hosts were enabling and encouraging the absolute wrong world view in the people who most need positive direction in their lives to break away from the stranglehold poverty has on them.

I knew some black business leaders and educators, and civic-minded people who were really really trying everything they could to help people out but they were fighting a losing battle against that mentality of entitlement and hatred.
 
Papa bull said:
You'll note that your opinion on how bad Wal-mart treats its employees is not substantiated by those articles and that without firsthand experience, you're doing nothing but talking out your ass to make factual remarks about those respective corporations' working conditions. So I assumed you must have worked for them instead of assuming that you were talking out your ass. But I stand corrected.
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Clearly you enjoy your friends at Wal Mart. Their reputation is well deserved and earned. Do your homework son.

Costco vs. Walmart - How to Treat Employees - YouTube
 
specklebang said:
What aspect of this are you pleased with and what aspect are you unhappy with?

Walmart has ended the Mom & Pop Shop decades ago. It's very sad. But we can't live in the past.

If you "aren't losing sleep" over this, are you advocating that Walmart not open these stores? Do you think their decision to build fewer stores will result in a Mom & Pop revival? Do you think Mom & Pop will hire the kind of people who Walmart accepts or will they hold out for thin, attractive white girls?

I'm not losing any sleep either. I'm just recognizing that Walmart and other big box stores do make an economic contribution and that creating an impractical environment will do far more harm than good. I seriously doubt there are any "independent store owners" to be happy about this.
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I shop at Walmart myself. I'm just saying if they open a few more stores in DC or if they don't, I personally don't see it as some sort of horrible tragedy. There would be pluses and minuses either way while some see only minuses if they don't.
 
Well, if the stores aren't already open, it just means they are able to function with fewer stores. I'm always amazed at how many of the damn things are built. Shopping, shopping, shopping 24/7.

So the conflict really is that Walmart wants more locations, they have to staff those locations and it violates their policies to start everyone at $12.50. As I said much earlier, Walmart hires people who would have a tough time getting work elsewhere and that is a positive for the metropolis. As another poster pointed out, this is discriminatory in nature and that makes very little sense in terms of logic. I don't have a cat in this race but it seems self-destructive.




Smeagol said:
I shop at Walmart myself. I'm just saying if they open a few more stores in DC or if they don't, I personally don't see it as some sort of horrible tragedy. There would be pluses and minuses either way while some see only minuses if they don't.
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The bill is backed by worker advocates and unions that say employees of big-box stores should earn a "living wage." It applies only to stores doing business in spaces of 75,000 feet or more

more unconstitutional action.
 
Kushinator said:
All the more reason to upskill!
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to an extent, you gotta have money to make money. Hard to upskill when you can't gain experience or afford more education.
 
cpwill said:
As defined by me. Frankly, I've become a
bit of a believer in this. Since the laws of supply and demand do not apply to labor, and since employers are all infinitely able to pay higher labor costs out of magical profits, I say we raise the minimum wage to $50 an hour, and we can all have above-average income!
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Wow, you know, thanks to your amazing post FILLED with reason, horse sense, applicable and highly relevent facts, quantifiable data-driven by highly scientific methodology and empirical and measurable conclusions I've changed my position on this debate.

How could I have been so #&@%#& Stupid !! * hits head like the V8 Commercial *.....

Wow, thank you, what a " journey this has been"..and I have you to thank for it. :)

No but seriously , if some low life HollyWood Celebrity says something is " Amazing " again or how their latest bowel movement or a comparable accomplishment was a great "journey" just one more time, I'm going to kill my self.
 
The DC bill passed. Let's see if Wal-Mart keeps their threat to drop DC like a hot potato. I hope they keep their word. It is the honorable thing to do.
 
cpwill said:
As defined by me. Frankly, I've become a bit of a believer in this. Since the laws of supply and demand do not apply to labor, and since employers are all infinitely able to pay higher labor costs out of magical profits, I say we raise the minimum wage to $50 an hour, and we can all have above-average income!
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I've thought this many times. Why not just raise the minimum wage to a number that makes us all wealthy and that would fix all the problems for everyone. We'd be rolling in dough and people could pay for a nice house with a two car garage and a couple nice cars to go in it from just a minimum wage job flipping burgers. It's only because the evil rich want to hold us all back that this hasn't happened already.
 
Fenton said:
Wow, you know, thanks to your amazing post FILLED with reason, horse sense, applicable and highly relevent facts, quantifiable data-driven by highly scientific methodology and empirical and measurable conclusions I've changed my position on this debate.

How could I have been so #&@%#& Stupid !! * hits head like the V8 Commercial *.....

Wow, thank you, what a " journey this has been"..and I have you to thank for it. :)
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:) Well, I"m just happy to have been part of your growth. Remember, it's the journey that's important, not the destination. So long as the destination is liberalism. Because otherwise, you're a racist. :)
 
Papa bull said:
I've thought this many times. Why not just raise the minimum wage to a number that makes us all wealthy and that would fix all the problems for everyone. We'd be rolling in dough and people could pay for a nice house with a two car garage and a couple nice cars to go in it from just a minimum wage job flipping burgers. It's only because the evil rich want to hold us all back that this hasn't happened already.
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True Story. The wave of the magic Law Wand will suddenly make my labor worth more than it returns to my employer!
 
cpwill said:
True Story. The wave of the magic Law Wand will suddenly make my labor worth more than it returns to my employer!
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I know. It's so simple. There might also have to be a law passed to make sure that no company can ever fire anyone due to the wage hikes in order to make them keep paying, but then that would fix it. Well, maybe one more law after that to keep companies from closing when they went broke, too,. But that's it. Overnight, everyone would go from poor and middle class to "the wealthy" and we'd be the most prosperous country on Earth. I'm surprised no other country thought of it first. Not even the communist countries. They must be stupid.
 
Papa bull said:
I know. It's so simple. There might also have to be a law passed to make sure that no company can ever fire anyone due to the wage hikes in order to make them keep paying, but then that would fix it. Well, maybe one more law after that to keep companies from closing when they went broke, too,. But that's it. Overnight, everyone would go from poor and middle class to "the wealthy" and we'd be the most prosperous country on Earth. I'm surprised no other country thought of it first. Not even the communist countries. They must be stupid.
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No stupid is letting corporate non humans have rights under the constitution.
 
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