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U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

Between what?

Read the article and see if you can figure out if this is a cash flow insolvency or a balance sheet insolvency. You don't seem to understand that we are running trillion dollar deficits and there isn't the cash you think to pay those obligations therefore the govt. is going to have to print or borrow the money. How does that affect you, your kids, your grandkids, and the economy?

Social Security is Much Worse Than a Ponzi Scheme - and Here's How to End It - Forbes
 
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Wow, yes, raise taxes on everyone at the top end to fund someone else's retirement supplement?

Why should someone making a $mill a year skate after they pay the full Monty for the year by the middle of Feb? The shrinking middle-class is humping all year to pay his/hers.:2wave:
 
Read the article and see if you can figure out if this is a cash flow insolvency or a balance sheet insolvency. You don't seem to understand that we are running trillion dollar deficits and there isn't the cash you think to pay those obligations therefore the govt. is going to have to print or borrow the money. How does that affect you, your kids, your grandkids, and the economy?
So.....where did I not understand the difference between BS and CF accounting?

And again (we just went over this same exact point a few pages ago) we have enough funds to cover current SS/MC outlays, and since govt is not using balance sheet accounting.....you and the article are still incorrect.

QED (again).

Wash, rinse, repeat.
 
Why should someone making a $mill a year skate after they pay the full Monty for the year by the middle of Feb? The shrinking middle-class is humping all year to pay his/hers.:2wave:

Skate? You certainly have a weird definition of skate? Did they put their money as required into SS? Why shouldn't they get their money back? Interesting how you feel that someone else should pay for your retirement supplement along with all other personal responsibility issues.
 
So.....where did I not understand the difference between BS and CF accounting?

And again (we just went over this same exact point a few pages ago) we have enough funds to cover current SS/MC outlays, and since govt is not using balance sheet accounting.....you and the article are still incorrect.

QED (again).

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Aw, don't worry, the money tree will always continue to grow dollar bills, right? Isn't that the way it works in the liberal world?
 
Skate? You certainly have a weird definition of skate? Did they put their money as required into SS? Why shouldn't they get their money back? Interesting how you feel that someone else should pay for your retirement supplement along with all other personal responsibility issues.

Sure they "they put their money as required into SS"but not the same % of pay as the working middle-class.Why do you feel that the top 1%-2% should pay less of a % of SS taxes than the 98% of us?:2wave:
 
Sure they "they put their money as required into SS"but not the same % of pay as the working middle-class.Why do you feel that the top 1%-2% should pay less of a % of SS taxes than the 98% of us?:2wave:

Why should they put more than they will ever get out of SS? What is it about liberals who believe it is always someone else's responsibility to pay for your personal responsibility issues? SS is a retirement supplement that goes back to the individual. You liberals are really brainwashed into believing that someone else should fund it for you.
 
LOL, yep, how long do you think Business would fund those programs and not pass on the costs to the consumer?

We already do via taxation to some extent. How many businesses do you think would survive with sickly homeless workers showing up?
 
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Why should they put more than they will ever get out of SS?

Weren't you the one who was concerned enough to post this statement in #1662?

“Where is the money going to come from to pay those IOU's that in your world aren't long term obligations? “

What is it about a conservatives that makes them feel that the 98% should pay 4.2% while someone like mittens pays a minuscule 0.1%?:2wave:
 
Why should they put more than they will ever get out of SS? What is it about liberals who believe it is always someone else's responsibility to pay for your personal responsibility issues? SS is a retirement supplement that goes back to the individual. You liberals are really brainwashed into believing that someone else should fund it for you.

Why should you buy insurance for your house? Are you just hoping it burns down so you can get more back? Than you paid into the insurance pool.
 
Why should someone making a $mill a year skate after they pay the full Monty for the year by the middle of
Feb? The shrinking middle-class is humping all year to pay his/hers.:2wave:

Oh you don't have to worry about the middle class. Thanks to the election of Obama they're numbers are dwindling.

So as they fall back into the class of people that don't pay taxes, our Government will be forced to borrow more and more to support the rising number dependent Americans.

It's called " Liberalsim" and it's a stone cold disaster.
 
Weren't you the one who was concerned enough to post this statement in #1662?



What is it about a conservatives that makes them feel that the 98% should pay 4.2% while someone like mittens pays a minuscule 0.1%?:2wave:


Again, still waiting for why some rich person should pay more into the system than they will get out and why you expect them to pick up the slack for you? Wouldn't it be easier if you just had them send you a check each month vs. letting a bureaucrat administer it for you?
 
Why should you buy insurance for your house? Are you just hoping it burns down so you can get more back? Than you paid into the insurance pool.

Is that the purpose of Social Security? Wow, has this tread gotten off track, you liberals are good at that.
 
Aw, don't worry, the money tree will always continue to grow dollar bills, right? Isn't that the way it works in the liberal world?
What, me worry?

You are the one with henny penny chicken little shrill whining about Clinton not paying down the IOU's. Hint: It was accomplished via higher taxes during an economic boom. If you want a repeat then get out of the way with the phony arguments.
 
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]Oh you don't have to worry about the middle class. Thanks to the election of Obama they're numbers are dwindling.

That,s what i am attempting to head off.:(


So as they fall back into the class of people that don't pay taxes, our Government will be forced to borrow more and more to support the rising number dependent Americans.

Were talking about saving SS.Not invading other countries and creating Hugh $Trillion dollar drains like Iraq .:2wave:
 
What, me worry?

You are the one with henny penny chicken little shrill whining about Clinton not paying down the IOU's. Hint: It was accomplished via higher taxes during an economic boom. If you want a repeat then get out of the way with the phony arguments.

I know you love Bill Clinton but Bill Clinton isn't in office, Obama is, and it is the Obama record that you want to ignore. How much has Obama paid back the SS IOU's?
 
That,s what i am attempting to head off.:(




Were talking about saving SS.Not invading other countries and creating Hugh $Trillion dollar drains like Iraq .:2wave:

You people just will do anything to divert from the disaster that you support. This isn't about Iraq, this isn't about Bush, this isn't about Clinton, this is about the economic incompetent that you voted for and helped put in the WH.
 
Is that the purpose of Social Security? Wow, has this tread gotten off track, you liberals are good at that.

Social Security is an insurance program. Just like when one buys a home a bank will make one purchase insurance
 
Again, still waiting for why some rich person should pay more into the system than they will get out and why you expect them to pick up the slack for you? Wouldn't it be easier if you just had them send you a check each month vs. letting a bureaucrat administer it for you?

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Just wanting those that get the most outta our country to pay the same % of payroll tax that 98 % of loyal Americans willingly pay.Is that asking too much?:2wave:
 
You people just will do anything to divert from the disaster that you support. This isn't about Iraq, this isn't about Bush, this isn't about Clinton, this is about the economic incompetent that you voted for and helped put in the WH.

Sorry but you support the disaster of Bush 43
 
I know you love Bill Clinton but Bill Clinton isn't in office, Obama is, and it is the Obama record that you want to ignore. How much has Obama paid back the SS IOU's?
LOL....If you want to change the topic you brought up.... again.... fine!

It is concession time once again.

What is this, the 3rd time with me today?

So much for the "beating".

LOL!


It think I just said that if you want a boom, get rid of the phony arguments, it is the same obstructive bs your loser reps are spewing in the House.

Lead, follow or get out of the way.
 
I know you love Bill Clinton but Bill Clinton isn't in office, Obama is, and it is the Obama record that you want to ignore. How much has Obama paid back the SS IOU's?

25 million jobs a balanced budget who wouldn't love Clinton other than an ideologue?
 
You people just will do anything to divert from the disaster that you support. This isn't about Iraq, this isn't about Bush, this isn't about Clinton, this is about the economic incompetent that you voted for and helped put in the WH.

Check out the diversion that i was addressing with my post.HEY!it was a Fenton post that i was responding to.

Almost as lame a post as someone saying that its about "the economic incompetent that you voted for "when we were discussing SS.NOW THATSA DIVERSION.:2wave:
 
Actually, you're factually wrong on both counts. You largely are merely spewing the poisonous propaganda from mindless talking heads and partisans who can't see that when their side does the exact same thing is all of the sudden market driven. Also, next no economy in the world today is purely capitalistic nor socialistic. They use different mixed forms which are actually something else altogether. Only the blind see one or the other.

Furthermore, there are real, tangible, and rational reasons why this is. Pure forms also have problems. And often lack the flexibility to handle serious problems that transpire. A pragmatic approach recognizes this and seeks to make proper adjustments where possible. But even with such a problem solving approach, the government can only go so far, unless you're China. We cannot outlaw out sourcing fir example. Understanding where government doesn't have control of any kind is important. It is also important to understand if government had complete control, like in China, there would Ben no regulations. None. So, to get what you want concerning regulations, you have to have government run business, or at least a government willing to ignore and not respond to the citizens of this country. So, again, many are not thinking it through. They merely choose a IDE and spew vomit without thought.

How can someone that truly believes himself so smugly superior, get what I clearly typed, so wrong?

Ah well, figures....
 
This thread is hilarious

Obama's record on the economy is a pathetic joke. You can trot out all the Mother Jones graphs and Krugman articles all you want. We're living in this economy. It sucks. BAD. The people still blowing smoke up Obama's &^% in this thread are either going to college on loans/grants or on welfare. If you're employed in this country or actively looking for employment, Obama long ago lost all credibility

People who still believe in Obama believe in this phony

Obama speech oceans receding, planet healing - YouTube

The Obama we got is his record though, and Obama's record (especially on the economy) STINKS

Campaigning for President is not the same thing as BEING President.
 
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