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U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

Helix said:
not a horrible month. i agree that the money printing should stop.
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Unemployment isn't going to move because those caught in the "void" (those booted off unemployment, those who didn't qualify for it and new workers) aren't factored into the unemployment formula....

The real unemployment rate is well above 12%.

The only reason why companies aren't tossing employees out on the street is because parts of Obamacare have been suspended.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Unemployment isn't going to move because those caught in the "void" (those booted off unemployment, those who didn't qualify for it and new workers) aren't factored into the unemployment formula....

The real unemployment rate is well above 12%.

The only reason why companies aren't tossing employees out on the street is because parts of Obamacare have been suspended.
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The U-6 rate is 14.3% but we will never know the true unemployment rate as contract employees who lost their job and private business owners who lost their business will never be counted. All one has to do is look at GDP Growth to see how stagnant things are four years after the end of the recession. Things aren't in recession for Obama who has no problem taking overseas vacations and playing a lot of golf. That is leadership where you do what I say but never do what I do
 
pbrauer said:
Exactly. And anyone who blames any president for this vis a fool. It not the job of any president to create demand as Con would like you to think. The jobs reports would be no different had Romney been elected president.

This country is in serious trouble job wise not because who is president, but it's because a good number of our jobs have been exported and automation has taken a toll as well.
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Well, what do you suggest be done about it?
 
DA60 said:
Well, what do you suggest be done about it?
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It's you and Conservative who are criticizing President Obama, so I think you guys should show what real leadership would do. What would Romney do if he was the President today. I was told Obama was an easy target that I would dread Election Day. Why did Romney stupidly say he would give everyone a 20% tax cut and have the revenue neutral.

BTW, did you know, that Obama was one of four president to get more than 50% popular vote in two elections? FDR, Eisenhower, Reagan and Obama.
 
pbrauer said:
It's you and Conservative who are criticizing President Obama, so I think you guys should show what real leadership would do. What would Romney do if he was the President today. I was told Obama was an easy target that I would dread Election Day. Why did Romney stupidly say he would give everyone a 20% tax cut and have the revenue neutral.

BTW, did you know, that Obama was one of four president to get more than 50% popular vote in two elections? FDR, Eisenhower, Reagan and Obama.
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I am neither rep nor dem...I thought GWB was a lousy POTUS and I think Obama is as well.

I think the Fed should be castrated - at a minimum, remove the employment mandate; at most, get rid of it altogether.
- balance the budget
- reduce the military by 1/3 at least
- bring all the troops home
- eliminate corporate tax
- bring in a flat tax - the same rate for all income earners (both income and capital gains) AND no deductions except for charitable contributions
- remove all federal regulations on business except for health and safety and national defense concerns
- never bail out a company/corporation/bank again.
- let the market set interest rates
- end Obamacare
- end welfare - replace with federal emergency shelters in every major regional center (with food/shelter/emerg. Medical/dental)...continue welfare for physically/mentally handicapped.
- eventually end Social Security - when the last person over 35 today dies, SS dies with them.
That is most of it.

Now will you please answer my question?
 
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DA60 said:
I am neither rep nor dem...I thought GWB was a lousy POTUS and I think Obama is as well.

Now do you an answer to my question or not please?
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I don't know how to fix Job situation and I seriously doubt anyone does.
 
pbrauer said:
It's you and Conservative who are criticizing President Obama, so I think you guys should show what real leadership would do. What would Romney do if he was the President today. I was told Obama was an easy target that I would dread Election Day. Why did Romney stupidly say he would give everyone a 20% tax cut and have the revenue neutral.

BTW, did you know, that Obama was one of four president to get more than 50% popular vote in two elections? FDR, Eisenhower, Reagan and Obama.
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If you cheerleaders wouldn't be spending so much time high fiving each other for idiotic posts you would know the answer to that question. The answer is very simple, you lead, you promote the private sector, you provide incentive to the American taxpayers by allowing them to keep more of what they earn, You unleash the American spirit and cheerlead when necessary promoting that "shining city on the hill", you wouldn't demonize any economic class for producing, you wouldn't micro manage personal responsibility issues like health care, and you don't take expensive vacations and play a lot of golf when so many people are suffering.
 
Conservative said:
And why aren't people spending money? How about the 21 plus million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers? Do you have any concept of human behavior? Apply your own behavior to that of others. No one is going to spend money with the uncertainties created by this Administration. I asked you a question and never do I get an answer.

You appear to be a good person, just very naïve and gullible. You also seem to lack basic business skills and understanding as you cannot grasp the basic premise of profit demand nor do you understand the line items of a financial statement. You and others like you are so blinded by a feel good ideology that you ignore human nature and human behavior. Sorry Boo, but you are out of touch with reality wanting badly to believe what you are told thus think only with your heart instead of your brain. If only you would apply your own behavior to the thought process you would have a better understanding of what is going on in this country right now.
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Outsourcing, automation, years of union busting leading to low wages, decades of a move to part time workers over full time workers, the housing bubble bursting, . . . Shall I go on?
 
Conservative said:
No, they were opinions based upon the sample that we don't even know the size of so please post the details of that sample? If a regulation doesn't financially impact someone don't you think they would answer it differently if it did. I asked you a question, how many permits does it take to get a new refinery in this country and what business would go through that process? How many businesses are lost due to govt. regulations. Those are the questions you should ask yourself and those filling your head with crap.
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All you have to do is look to know. But the result is accepted across the board, why? Because it reflects reality and not chicken little exaggerations.

So, confess. The truth will set you free.:2dance::monkey:2dance::monkey:2dance:
 
Conservative said:
So why give credit then for numbers just because they are up and out of context? What is good about the economy shedding full time jobs? What is good about people losing their unemployment benefits and dropping out of the job market by stop looking for jobs?
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No one argues that part s good. But you could have that without the up tick. Some of us keep perspective, and others, well there's you.
 
Boo Radley said:
Outsourcing, automation, years of union busting leading to low wages, decades of a move to part time workers over full time workers, the housing bubble bursting, . . . Shall I go on?
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You normally do go on and on and on and on never proposing any solutions. You have no concept how the private sector works and are very naïve when it come to actual employees some of whom would take advantage of any situation including taking disability that they don't deserve, two years of unemployment and more if offered, and then would go from job to job blaming the employer for not paying them 100,000 a year to start.
 
Boo Radley said:
All you have to do is look to know. But the result is accepted across the board, why? Because it reflects reality and not chicken little exaggerations.

So, confess. The truth will set you free.:2dance::monkey:2dance::monkey:2dance:
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So you believe because you willingly believe anything that you believe supports your point of view. Post the details of the study. Then tell me how sales taxes, estate taxes, and deregulation are monthly operating expenses of business?
 
Conservative said:
You normally do go on and on and on and on never proposing any solutions. You have no concept how the private sector works and are very naïve when it come to actual employees some of whom would take advantage of any situation including taking disability that they don't deserve, two years of unemployment and more if offered, and then would go from job to job blaming the employer for not paying them 100,000 a year to start.
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I'm sure whining about democrats is your idea of a solution, but the fact remains these are huge problems that will not be easily navigated. If you're waiting on any president to fix them quickly, regardless of party, you're in for a long wait.
 
Boo Radley said:
No one argues that part s good. But you could have that without the up tick. Some of us keep perspective, and others, well there's you.
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Still waiting for your solution to the economic problems we are facing. It does appear that like Obama you have none because neither of you understand the private sector.
 
Boo Radley said:
I'm sure whining about democrats is your idea of a solution, but the fact remains these are huge problems that will not be easily navigated. If you're waiting on any president to fix them quickly, regardless of party, you're in for a long wait.
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That is because you have no concept of leadership and the responsibilities of leadership. Have you always throughout your life had others solve problems for you?
 
Conservative said:
So you believe because you willingly believe anything that you believe supports your point of view. Post the details of the study. Then tell me how sales taxes, estate taxes, and deregulation are monthly operating expenses of business?
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I told you, the Link was there. If you wanted to know, you would.
 
Conservative said:
Still waiting for your solution to the economic problems we are facing. It does appear that like Obama you have none because neither of you understand the private sector.
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Stronger unions would help. Or at least stop demonizing workers. But there are no smile answers. That might be the first step. Stop pretending simple platitudes like cut taxes will really change anything.
 
Boo Radley said:
I told you, the Link was there. If you wanted to know, you would.
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Been to the link, no internals yet you don't seem to be so quick to accept other polling data with actual internals when they go against what you want to believe. What are your solutions and why do you have no concept of leadership?
 
Conservative said:
That is because you have no concept of leadership and the responsibilities of leadership. Have you always throughout your life had others solve problems for you?
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I guess this is the best you can do, but it doesn't address my point at all.
 
Boo Radley said:
Stronger unions would help. Or at least stop demonizing workers. But there are no smile answers. That might be the first step. Stop pretending simple platitudes like cut taxes will really change anything.
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Help whom? Aw, yes, those poor workers with absolutely nothing invested in their job other than their own time. Stop ignoring what you do when you get to keep more of what you earn.
 
Conservative said:
Been to the link, no internals yet you don't seem to be so quick to accept other polling data with actual internals when they go against what you want to believe. What are your solutions and why do you have no concept of leadership?
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There was. But you know the study, look it up. You've been given a lot, with next to nothing in rebuttal. At least try.
 
Boo Radley said:
I guess this is the best you can do, but it doesn't address my point at all.
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The best I can do is to ignore you who are a waste of time with no solutions and being totally naïve about leadership and the qualities and responsibilities of a leader.
 
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