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U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

Conservative said:
The country is losing and the more you defend the Obama incompetence the more you become part of the problem rather than the solution. Name for me anything Obama has done to increase demand so that companies will hire.
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Bizarro...You have been going on for four years about how ALL of the things that the President HAS DONE/IS DOING IS WRONG....and NOW I'm supposed to list all of these things you have been against?

What is it now? You can't remember what you have been fighting against?

FFS!!!!


Name for me the leadership qualities of Obama that have generated bipartisanship in Congress to get positive economic results?
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Again and again you make these same insane arguments, and I keep pointing out the same facts, you cannot lead in a system where there is the option not to be lead. The GOP has chosen not to be lead, they made this choice BEFORE he was worn in.


Let me know why the Republican House is called the do nothing House by liberals when bills passed by that House are sitting in Harry Reid's desk because he refuses to bring them to the floor for debate?
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Instead of passing bill that have a chance of getting past the Senate (like a real jobs bill), the extremist House passes for the umpteenth time a repeal of the ACA....which you applaud. You want the House to spend its time doing pointless work and not produce the legislation that will have a positive effect for the conditions that exist NOW. The last time we had this kind of dysfunction was before the Civil War.

Defense of the indefensible in itself is indefensible.
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Faulty circular logic, and you don't see it.
 
ocean515 said:
Is that what you are doing? Looking for any excuse to distract away from your loss?

It's not working, the train wreck appears to be something you want to be quite visable. I'd think your ego would want to avoid that.

But hey, smolder along. Far be it from me to stop you.
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LOL...you can't even mention what became of your argument, it has gotten that bad.

Good grief.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Bizarro...You have been going on for four years about how ALL of the things that the President HAS DONE/IS DOING IS WRONG....and NOW I'm supposed to list all of these things you have been against?

What is it now? You can't remember what you have been fighting against?

FFS!!!!


Again and again you make these same insane arguments, and I keep pointing out the same facts, you cannot lead in a system where there is the option not to be lead. The GOP has chosen not to be lead, they made this choice BEFORE he was worn in.


Instead of passing bill that have a chance of getting past the Senate (like a real jobs bill), the extremist House passes for the umpteenth time a repeal of the ACA....which you applaud. You want the House to spend its time doing pointless work and not produce the legislation that will have a positive effect for the conditions that exist NOW. The last time we had this kind of dysfunction was before the Civil War.

Faulty circular logic, and you don't see it.
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And yet the numbers are acceptable only to someone with low standards and the inability to comprehend how the free market works. Are you sending Bush a thank you note for more spendable income in your paycheck?

More rhetoric from you and still no substance. Nothing you say will ever change the numbers and Obama's failures. You buy on face value anything that the left tells you. Why would the Obama jobs' bill of 2010 been any different than the 842 billion stimulus bill of 2009 that failed to deliver the promised results? Do you understand who funds those programs Obama has proposed when the Federal taxpayer funding runs out? Are you prepared for higher state taxes to fund another govt. unfunded mandate?

stop buying the rhetoric and actual do some research. Stop buying liberal arguments at face value and look at the details. Stop calling the House the do nothing House and Hold Reid accountable for stonewalling House legislation.

I wonder if you truly understand the definition of a fact. The only thing factual about an opinion is that it came from the individual giving it. You offer opinions as fact which destroys what little credibility you have.
 
Boo Radley said:
Just a bit more before I leave:

Impact of Estate Tax on Small Businesses and Farms Is Minimal
Almost No Small Business and Farm Estates Owe the Tax; Those That Do Owe Only Modest Amounts

Impact of Estate Tax on Small Businesses and Farms Is Minimal — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

There is simply no consensus whatsoever that cutting taxes is a good strategy to boost state economic growth and create jobs.

Academic Research Lacks Consensus on the Impact of State Tax Cuts on Economic Growth — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

The National Association for Business Economics survey asks how higher taxes and lower government spending effected businesses in the first three months of 2013.

Ninety-three percent of respondents say the political developments had no effect on employment levels in the first quarter, and 95 percent say they had no impact on capital spending plans.

Fiscal Cliff Had No Effect On Employment, U.S. Businesses Say
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Hope you got a good night's rest and are starting to think before you post. Do you realize that estate taxes, securities deregulation, and sales taxes aren't monthly operating expenses for businesses? Sales taxes are collected by businesses and paid to the state govt. You really should learn to read a financial statement of a private business and understand what goes into that statement

All these quotes you post never recognize how many businesses simply didn't start up because of regulations. Any idea how many permits are required to build a new refinery? Why would any business go through those hoops?

You want badly to believe what you are told by today's Democrat Party but fail to apply logic and common sense to their opinions. This is about economic growth, job creation and higher taxes, more regulations affect both negatively.
 
Conservative said:
Hope you got a good night's rest and are starting to think before you post. Do you realize that estate taxes, securities deregulation, and sales taxes aren't monthly operating expenses for businesses? Sales taxes are collected by businesses and paid to the state govt. You really should learn to read a financial statement of a private business and understand what goes into that statement

All these quotes you post never recognize how many businesses simply didn't start up because of regulations. Any idea how many permits are required to build a new refinery? Why would any business go through those hoops?

You want badly to believe what you are told by today's Democrat Party but fail to apply logic and common sense to their opinions. This is about economic growth, job creation and higher taxes, more regulations affect both negatively.
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I've given all kinds of support for my claims. You? Not so much.


:coffeepap
 
Conservative said:
The blind loyalty and support for Barack Obama is either intentional or misguided. A lot of good people are being led to slaughter and the economic results are quite telling. So regulations don't affect people?

The Ingenious Stupidity of Barack Obama - John Ransom - Townhall Finance Conservative Columnists and Financial Commentary - Page 1
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You realize there's nothing factual in that article. It's just another rant. Please, seek something measured, objective, verifiable.
 
Boo Radley said:
I've given all kinds of support for my claims. You? Not so much.


:coffeepap
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You have provided opinions but none of them addressed the point I made about what are actual business taxes and further how many business simply didn't build, start up, or grow because of regulations. How does the state of West Va. think of Obama? you are blinded by your own ideology and ignore the effects of that ideology on others.
 
Boo Radley said:
You realize there's nothing factual in that article. It's just another rant. Please, seek something measured, objective, verifiable.
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Yes, got it, personal opinions only matter to you when they come from the left
 
Conservative said:
You have provided opinions but none of them addressed the point I made about what are actual business taxes and further how many business simply didn't build, start up, or grow because of regulations. How does the state of West Va. think of Obama? you are blinded by your own ideology and ignore the effects of that ideology on others.
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Nonsense. I listed measurable studies. You keep trying to move the goal posts because you know deep down you've been shown to be wrong. Just confess. The truth will set you free. :2dance::2dance:
 
Conservative said:
Yes, got it, personal opinions only matter to you when they come from the left
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Nope. But I gave you more than that. Confess. The truth will set you free. :2dance::2dancing::2dance::2dancing::2dance:
 
Boo Radley said:
Nonsense. I listed measurable studies. You keep trying to move the goal posts because you know deep down you've been shown to be wrong. Just confess. The truth will set you free. :2dance::2dance:
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Tell me what Obamacare is going to cost businesses and then tell me why businesses aren't hiring today? You think Obama has been good for business and the economy?
 
Boo Radley said:
Nope. But I gave you more than that. Confess. The truth will set you free. :2dance::2dancing::2dance::2dancing::2dance:
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No details on the study, who was studied, what were the questions asked, what effect did those regulations have on the business owners questioned if any? It is easy to support clean air if there is no economic impact on the business not affected by that regulation. How is Obama doing in the state of West Virginia due to his EPA policies?
 
Conservative said:
Tell me what Obamacare is going to cost businesses and then tell me why businesses aren't hiring today? You think Obama has been good for business and the economy?
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They're not hiring because people aren't spending money. That is what drives business, and not the government.

As for healthcare reform, we'll see. But I suspect it's all just more chicken little stuff from you guys.
 
Conservative said:
No details on the study, who was studied, what were the questions asked, what effect did those regulations have on the business owners questioned if any? It is easy to support clean air if there is no economic impact on the business not affected by that regulation. How is Obama doing in the state of West Virginia due to his EPA policies?
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Sure there was. One, maybe two of them linked the study. You just don't want to know. I tell, just confess your error and the truth will set you free. :2dance::monkey:2dancing::2dance::2dancing:
 
Donc said:
samo,samo.YAWN.:sigh:
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There was good news:

THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- JUNE 2013


Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 195,000 in June, and the
unemployment rate was unchanged at 7.6 percent, the U.S. Bureau of
Labor Statistics reported today. Employment rose in leisure and
hospitality, professional and business services, retail trade, health
care, and financial activities.

The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for April was revised
from +149,000 to +199,000, and the change for May was revised from
+175,000 to +195,000. With these revisions, employment gains in April
and May combined were 70,000 higher than previously reported.
 
pbrauer said:
There was good news:

THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- JUNE 2013


Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 195,000 in June, and the
unemployment rate was unchanged at 7.6 percent, the U.S. Bureau of
Labor Statistics reported today. Employment rose in leisure and
hospitality, professional and business services, retail trade, health
care, and financial activities.

The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for April was revised
from +149,000 to +199,000, and the change for May was revised from
+175,000 to +195,000. With these revisions, employment gains in April
and May combined were 70,000 higher than previously reported.
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And the economy shed almost 1/4 of a million (240,000) full time jobs.

And, over the last four months, the U-3 rate for those with a high school diploma or greater has gone up overall, while the U-3 rate for those with less then high school diploma went down.

So, the economy is presently transitioning into a part time, unskilled economy.
 
DA60 said:
And the economy shed almost 1/4 of a million (240,000) full time jobs.

And, over the last four months, the U-3 rate for those with a high school diploma or greater has gone up overall, while the U-3 rate for those with less then high school diploma went down.

So, the economy is presently transitioning into a part time, unskilled economy.
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It's been doing that for a long time. This is not new at all.
 
DA60 said:
And the economy shed almost 1/4 of a million (240,000) full time jobs.

And, over the last four months, the U-3 rate for those with a high school diploma or greater has gone up overall, while the U-3 rate for those with less then high school diploma went down.

So, the economy is presently transitioning into a part time, unskilled economy.
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Boo Radley said:
It's been doing that for a long time. This is not new at all.
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Exactly. And anyone who blames any president for this vis a fool. It not the job of any president to create demand as Con would like you to think. The jobs reports would be no different had Romney been elected president.

This country is in serious trouble job wise not because who is president, but it's because a good number of our jobs have been exported and automation has taken a toll as well.
 
Boo Radley said:
They're not hiring because people aren't spending money. That is what drives business, and not the government.

As for healthcare reform, we'll see. But I suspect it's all just more chicken little stuff from you guys.
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And why aren't people spending money? How about the 21 plus million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers? Do you have any concept of human behavior? Apply your own behavior to that of others. No one is going to spend money with the uncertainties created by this Administration. I asked you a question and never do I get an answer.

You appear to be a good person, just very naïve and gullible. You also seem to lack basic business skills and understanding as you cannot grasp the basic premise of profit demand nor do you understand the line items of a financial statement. You and others like you are so blinded by a feel good ideology that you ignore human nature and human behavior. Sorry Boo, but you are out of touch with reality wanting badly to believe what you are told thus think only with your heart instead of your brain. If only you would apply your own behavior to the thought process you would have a better understanding of what is going on in this country right now.
 
Boo Radley said:
Nope. But I gave you more than that. Confess. The truth will set you free. :2dance::2dancing::2dance::2dancing::2dance:
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No, they were opinions based upon the sample that we don't even know the size of so please post the details of that sample? If a regulation doesn't financially impact someone don't you think they would answer it differently if it did. I asked you a question, how many permits does it take to get a new refinery in this country and what business would go through that process? How many businesses are lost due to govt. regulations. Those are the questions you should ask yourself and those filling your head with crap.
 
pbrauer said:
There was good news:

THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- JUNE 2013


Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 195,000 in June, and the
unemployment rate was unchanged at 7.6 percent, the U.S. Bureau of
Labor Statistics reported today. Employment rose in leisure and
hospitality, professional and business services, retail trade, health
care, and financial activities.

The change in total nonfarm payroll employment for April was revised
from +149,000 to +199,000, and the change for May was revised from
+175,000 to +195,000. With these revisions, employment gains in April
and May combined were 70,000 higher than previously reported.
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So all you cheerleaders, what is your point? Where are the two million jobs lost from December 2007 to the present and why only 177,000 fewer unemployed today than in January2009 when Obama took over? Does context matter to you? How many of those jobs are part time or does that even matter? Why don't you care about the 21 plus million unemployed/under employed/discouraged? Are the million discouraged workers unemployed? Are they counted as such?
 
Boo Radley said:
It's been doing that for a long time. This is not new at all.
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So why give credit then for numbers just because they are up and out of context? What is good about the economy shedding full time jobs? What is good about people losing their unemployment benefits and dropping out of the job market by stop looking for jobs?
 
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