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U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

Donc said:
Whats this post have to do with the post that you quoted? and this outta left field post?

bizarre post even for you.:roll:
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Nice diversion, get someone to explain it to you as to how increased costs affect private businesses
 
ocean515 said:
I think you are correct that there may not be a single right answer.

For example, where does the effect of imported goods come into play, as it relates to increases in productivity, without an increase in wages?

For example, to combat decreasing market share, and therefore decreasing revenues, the automobile industry fought with the UAW to increase productivity in order to lower fixed and variable labor costs attached to each car manufactured. With high wages, and lower productivity, US auto makers found it increasingly difficult to compete, and still have enough revenue to support R&D.

Raw numbers would not account for this shift, but would reflect the increased gap, which could be misinterpreted.
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False example, the cost of production was lower for domestic vehicles, the UAW cooperated with line changes, it was management that did not modernize, and we did not stop the subsidized imports from capturing market share.

We went over this before.
 
ToastyOats said:
And he raised the gas tax, and business taxes...

You know, maybe Obama shouldn't try to follow in the footsteps of Reagan. :p
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Yes, Reagan 17 million jobs created, GDP doubled, govt. income tax revenue increased 60% even with the Reagan three year tax cuts. Obama is no Ronald Reagan
 
Conservative said:
Taxes have been reduced? how much have your personal income taxes been reduced? I certainly understand why someone who doesn't employ anyone doesn't understand a financial statement of businesses that do
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Yes dearest Con, taxes declined for everyone and only recently increased for the top by a tiny amount.

You have nothing to argue about. Taxes, regs are not the cause of depressed demand.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Yes dearest Con, taxes declined for everyone and only recently increased for the top by a tiny amount.

You have nothing to argue about. Taxes, regs are not the cause of depressed demand.
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Really? Obama had a tax reduction? How much and when was it? Still in effect?
 
Conservative said:
So ask the American people who was more successful, Reagan or Obama. Reagan debt created over 17 million jobs
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When Reagan was President most of the finished goods were produced in this country, that condition is no longer true. Today they are made in all four corners of the earth. Here's a challenge: Go into any store and see how many goods are made in the good old USA.
 
Conservative said:
Yes, Reagan 17 million jobs created, GDP doubled, govt. income tax revenue increased 60% even with the Reagan three year tax cuts. Obama is no Ronald Reagan
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Reagan tripled the debt and real revenue declined:

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Funny how voodoo failed twice!
 
Conservative said:
Yes, Reagan 17 million jobs created, GDP doubled, govt. income tax revenue increased 60% even with the Reagan three year tax cuts. Obama is no Ronald Reagan
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You're right, Obama is no Reagan. Obama isn't relying on ballooning government spending and government employment to grow jobs like Reagan, it is all private sector growth under Obama. I'll bet you if we did go back to that, we'd see something closer to 17 million jobs in eight years

Forgot to add Reagan's cigarette tax, just couldn't help himself could he.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Yes dearest Con, taxes declined for everyone and only recently increased for the top by a tiny amount.

You have nothing to argue about. Taxes, regs are not the cause of depressed demand.
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You really are a piece of work, I am sure you are an anomaly in that you always spend more when your take home pay is less and of course more regulations certainly don't increase costs for private businesses. How does anyone take you seriously.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
False example, the cost of production was lower for domestic vehicles, the UAW cooperated with line changes, it was management that did not modernize, and we did not stop the subsidized imports from capturing market share.

We went over this before.
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Dang, you just drove your car off the cliff. Big explosion at the bottom.

The cost of production for US automakers was considerably higher than that of foreign manufacturers, even those who assembled cars in the US.

The 2007 UAW-GM labor agreement established a two tier wage system that has had very little impact on hourly labor costs. Any UAW worker furloughed as a result of plant closing had right of first to return. Today, GM's unfunded pension liability is higher than it was when it emerged from bankruptcy.

I think you've strayed way off the reservation here.
 
ToastyOats said:
You're right, Obama is no Reagan. Obama isn't relying on ballooning government spending and government employment to grow jobs like Reagan, it is all private sector growth under Obama. I'll bet you if we did go back to that, we'd see something closer to 17 million jobs in eight years

Forgot to add Reagan's cigarette tax, just couldn't help himself could he.
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Oh, I see, so proposing a 3.8 trillion dollar budget isn't ballooning govt. spending? You think 17 million jobs created were Govt. jobs? Wow, no wonder this country is in a mess with people like you who have no idea what you are talking about yet believe you know it all.
 
Conservative said:
Nice diversion, get someone to explain it to you as to how increased costs affect private businesses
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We were discussing congress voting on bills and outta left filed you throw in “increased costs on the books of small business" and “When will liberals understand that private businesses cannot print cash "and you accuse me of diversion? Whatta hoot you are con.:lamo
 
Slyfox696 said:
That's a "you clearly do have a problem with it". I've already answered your question multiples times...well, I answered it once and then re-posted the same answer. Maybe one of these days you'll figure it out.
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I will make it easier for you.

Just type 'y' or 'n', please.

1200+ posts in under 5 months...and you cannot type 'y' or 'n' to a simple 'yes or no' question?



Have a nice day.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I'm not going to spend my time correcting your false premises that avoid my original point while yo go off on ad hominems. If you want debate, then engage in it honestly. I have my hands full with enough liars as it is.
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I'm not so sure you understand what "ad hominem" means, and when it's being used.
 
Common fenton step into this thread we need some more lame.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Reagan tripled the debt and real revenue declined:

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Funny how voodoo failed twice!
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Oh, if only we had a 1.7 trillion dollar debt over 8 years vs a 6.2 trillion dollar debt in less than 5 along with 17 million jobs created or over 2 million per year vs. Obama numbers.Wonder if the American people are as concerned about the tripling of the debt with the 1.7 trillion added that created 17 million jobs?
 
DA60 said:
I will make it easier for you.
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And I'll make it easy for you. Read the posts of mine you've quoted.

1200+ posts in under 5 months...and you cannot type 'y' or 'n' to a simple 'yes or no' question?
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I can, I choose not to, because I've already directly answered this question twice. Why answer it again when you'll simply ignore it a third time?

Prove your honesty and integrity, and go read the answer I've already provided to you twice. Prove you've acknowledged it by re-quoting it, and then I'll be happy to repeat myself a third time for you.
 
Donc said:
We were discussing congress voting on bills and outta left filed you throw in “increased costs on the books of small business" and “When will liberals understand that private businesses cannot print cash "and you accuse me of diversion? Whatta hoot you are con.:lamo
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Increased costs for private business have to be paid for by increased revenue not printing cash like the Federal Govt. does. Tell me that Obamacare, higher taxes, more regulations don't increase business costs and where is the incentive to higher more people to pay those costs?
 
pbrauer said:
When Reagan was President most of the finished goods were produced in this country, that condition is no longer true. Today they are made in all four corners of the earth. Here's a challenge: Go into any store and see how many goods are made in the good old USA.
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more excuses for Obama. Are you ever going to hold him accountable for the stagnant economy, poor job creation, and massive debt? Leadership is about taking responsibility and creating the incentive to deal with the hand you are dealt. Obama and liberals don't understand the concept. It is always someone else's fault for liberal low performance and expectations.
 
Conservative said:
Really? Obama had a tax reduction? How much and when was it? Still in effect?
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I know, this is surprising news for you. The effective rates only increased in 2012.

You have no argument.
 
ocean515 said:
Dang, you just drove your car off the cliff. Big explosion at the bottom.

The cost of production for US automakers was considerably higher than that of foreign manufacturers, even those who assembled cars in the US.

The 2007 UAW-GM labor agreement established a two tier wage system that has had very little impact on hourly labor costs. Any UAW worker furloughed as a result of plant closing had right of first to return. Today, GM's unfunded pension liability is higher than it was when it emerged from bankruptcy.

I think you've strayed way off the reservation here.
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Wrong, I previously showed you that the costs for the Mustang in 73 was BELOW the Celica.

You have forgotten our previous debate.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I know, this is surprising news for you. The effective rates only increased in 2012.

You have no argument.
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Then when did Obama cut taxes? Are you sending Bush a thank you note for the more personal take home pay due to his tax cuts that are still in effect?
 
Slyfox696 said:
And I'll make it easy for you. Read the posts of mine you've quoted.

I can, I choose not to, because I've already directly answered this question twice. Why answer it again when you'll simply ignore it a third time?

Prove your honesty and integrity, and go read the answer I've already provided to you twice. Prove you've acknowledged it by re-quoting it, and then I'll be happy to repeat myself a third time for you.
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Lol.

So instead of typing 'y' or 'n'...

...you type all the above instead?

Okaaaaaaaay.


I guess you really don't want to answer my simple 'yes or no' question.

Then I will bother you no further for the answer.



Have a nice day.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Wrong, I previously showed you that the costs for the Mustang in 73 was BELOW the Celica.

You have forgotten our previous debate.
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:shock:


Last time I checked, 1973 was 40 years ago, and GM had a 44% market share. Also, the infamous Jobs Bank the UAW forced on GM hadn't been started yet.

I don't think you want to go here again Truth...
 
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