U.S. Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Remains 7.6%

pbrauer · Jul 6, 2013

Conservative said:
You are doing your best to derail this thread to divert from the fact that Obama's economic results have been terrible at best. Whether or not Bush had plus or minus job growth is irrelevant to the fact that Obama has added over 6 trillion dollars to the debt to generate 177000 fewer unemployed after 4 plus years of his economic policies. There are still 2 million fewer employed people today than when the recession began and last month, four years after the recession ended over 1 million Americans were discouraged and not counted as unemployed. U-6 rate after all this Fed money and Obamanomics is 14.3% and that is good enough for liberals with such low standards.

Despite your opinion con, it was a good jobs report. Face it, there is nothing President Obama could do, short of quitting, that would make you happy. Face it, you appear every month when there is a new jobs report, sing your same songs, then you disappear only to reappear the following month.

Slyfox696 · Jul 6, 2013

pbrauer said:
Despite your opinion con, it was a good jobs report. Face it, there is nothing President Obama could do, short of quitting, that would make you happy. Face it, you appear every month when there is a new jobs report, sing your same songs, then you disappear only to reappear the following month.

It's like I said at the very beginning. "You can always count on the Republicans/conservatives to hate good news under Obama."

Fletch · Jul 6, 2013

pbrauer said:
Despite your opinion con, it was a good jobs report. Face it, there is nothing President Obama could do, short of quitting, that would make you happy. Face it, you appear every month when there is a new jobs report, sing your same songs, then you disappear only to reappear the following month.

You are right, it isn't a bad jobs report. But if the recovery can be laid at the feet of any one person, that person is Bernanke. But the steps he has taken to achieve this mediocre economy will almost certainly cause significant heart burn in coming years.

DA60 · Jul 6, 2013

Slyfox696 said:
It's like I said at the very beginning. "You can always count on the Republicans/conservatives to hate good news under Obama."

So, the fact that there are less Americans working full time this month as compared to last.

And a jobs report that over the last four months shows that the U-3 rate for Americans with a high school diploma or greater has actually risen overall.

BUT for people without a high school diploma - it's gone down.

Which proves that the new jobs being created are principally part time and unskilled.

Employment Situation Summary Table A. Household data, seasonally adjusted

Table A-9. Selected employment indicators

Noted.

Slyfox696 · Jul 6, 2013

DA60 said:
So, the fact that there are less Americans working full time this month as compared to last is good news to you?

Noted.

Table A-9. Selected employment indicators

You would rather our country lose jobs than gain them?

Noted.

DA60 · Jul 6, 2013

Slyfox696 said:
You would rather our country lose jobs than gain them?

Noted.

Lol - you ask me a question and then react to my potential answer before I even give it?

Okaaaaay.

BTW - you missed part of it (as I added it after you replied)

And a jobs report that over the last four months shows that the U-3 rate for Americans with a high school diploma or greater has actually risen overall.

BUT for people without a high school diploma - it's gone down.

Which proves that the new jobs being created are principally part time and unskilled.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.a.htm

So, this is a good jobs report to you?

Yes or no, please?

Slyfox696 · Jul 6, 2013

DA60 said:
Lol - you ask me a question and then react to my potential answer before I even give it?

Yes, just like you did to me. *shrug*

I find your hypocrisy amusing.

DA60 · Jul 6, 2013

Slyfox696 said:
Yes, just like you did to me. *shrug*

I find your hypocrisy amusing.

And where exactly did I ask you a question and then react to your potential answer before you even had a chance to give it?

The answer is - to my knowledge - I did not.

You already stated (in essence) at least two times in this thread that the jobs report was 'good news'.

I see your inexactitude isn't getting any better.

Have a nice day.

Slyfox696 · Jul 6, 2013

DA60 said:
And where exactly did I ask you a question and then react to your potential answer before you even had a chance to give it?

The answer is - to my knowledge - I did not.

Uhh, review the post of yours I quoted. The one you posted and I responded to, before you later went back and edited your post. There's your answer.

You already stated (in essence) at least two times in this thread that the jobs report was 'good news'.

Anytime we add jobs instead of losing them it's good. But I never said part time over full time was good, though I also never said it wasn't.

I see your inexactitude isn't getting any better.

And I can see your memory and reading comprehension isn't getting any better either.

Have a wonderful day.

DA60 · Jul 6, 2013

Slyfox696 said:
Uhh, review the post of yours I quoted. The one you posted and I responded to, before you later went back and edited your post. There's your answer.

No idea what post you are blathering about.

Anytime we add jobs instead of losing them it's good. But I never said part time over full time was good, though I also never said it wasn't.

And I can see your memory and reading comprehension isn't getting any better either.

You commented - indirectly - on the job report right here:

'It's like I said at the very beginning. "You can always count on the Republicans/conservatives to hate good news under Obama."'

And the statement was in direct response to a post about the jobs report.

So, do you think this is a good jobs report - yes or no?

Have a nice day.

DA60 · Jul 6, 2013

Slyfox696 said:
And I can see your memory and reading comprehension isn't getting any better either.

Really, and where is your unbiased, factual proof that my memory and reading comprehension 'isn't' getting any better?

You made a matter of fact statement - now back it up...or your words mean nothing.

Have a nice day.

(Yes mods - I know this is personal...once he gives me the answer, I will move off the personal stuff).

Donc · Jul 6, 2013

AlabamaPaul said:
About as relevant a Nancy's Health Care Independence day...

YEH!...And bohner is the poster boy of relevance eh? " Senate leadership? ":roll:

Especially considering that according to Rep. Luis Gutierrez, he has 218 votes for the immigration reform bill,that Harry Reed managed get passed in the senate in his pocket and bohner wont bring it up for a vote.:2wave:

Conservative · Jul 6, 2013

pbrauer said:
Despite your opinion con, it was a good jobs report. Face it, there is nothing President Obama could do, short of quitting, that would make you happy. Face it, you appear every month when there is a new jobs report, sing your same songs, then you disappear only to reappear the following month.

That is true, Obama needs to resign as he has no clue as to how to manage a private sector economy. Obamacare, higher taxes, and more regulations aren't a prescription for jobs growth. The numbers speak for themselves, 195,000 jobs created and yet there are 2 million less employed than were employed when the recession began and 177000 fewer unemployed than when Obama took office. It is four years after the end of the recession, when do you hold Obama responsible for these results?

Conservative · Jul 6, 2013

Slyfox696 said:
It's like I said at the very beginning. "You can always count on the Republicans/conservatives to hate good news under Obama."

Yes, and you can count on Obama cheerleaders who have no concept of how the economy works to trumpet anything perceived positive. I have given you the big picture which you ignored and will always ignore. This isn't a European economy, it is an economy created on capitalism and free enterprise. You and other Obama supporters have no understanding of how the economy even works or you wouldn't be supporting someone who is destroying it.

Conservative · Jul 6, 2013

Donc said:
YEH!...And bohner is the poster boy of relevance eh? " Senate leadership? ":roll:

Especially considering that according to Rep. Luis Gutierrez, he has 218 votes for the immigration reform bill,that Harry Reed managed get passed in the senate in his pocket and bohner wont bring it up for a vote.:2wave:

Amazing, isn't it, the GOP House is stonewalling by not bringing a Senate Passed bill for a vote but the Democrat controlled Senate under Harry Reid is doing the right thing preventing dozens of House passed bills from getting to the floor for a vote. Got it, no double standard there. Liberals are truly bipartisan and looking for compromise

Conservative · Jul 6, 2013

Gimmesometruth said:
The topic of the thread IS how QE/monetary policy should not be ended now since we are still in a very soft/depressed demand economy.

Such a stupid comment, a very small amount of total federal spending in the Obama fiscal years has been devoted to jobs.....and you certainly are in NO position to talk about spending on jobs....YOU AND YOUR PARTY WANT NO SPENDING ON JOBS

And nearly 100% of the job losses occurred during the Bush fiscal years.

AGAIN.....you certainly are in NO position to talk about spending on jobs....YOU AND YOUR PARTY WANT NO SPENDING ON JOBS.

Really, 100% of job losses occurred during Bush fiscal years? What years would that be? Do you even know what the fiscal year of the U.S. is? You make wild statements but never back them up because you know you are wrong but cannot admit it.

Conservative · Jul 7, 2013

Conservative said:
Really, 100% of job losses occurred during Bush fiscal years? What years would that be? Do you even know what the fiscal year of the U.S. is? You make wild statements but never back them up because you know you are wrong but cannot admit it.

Guess Gimme isn't really interested in some truth at all. Wonder where he/she thinks the 842 billion stimulus signed in February 2009 was supposed to go? Wonder why it is people like Gimme that believes it is the government's responsibility to spend taxpayer money for the private sector to create jobs? Fact is, it isn't, govt, spending of taxpayer dollars simply creates dependence and has no place in propping up the private sector which should succeed or fail on its own. No spending is necessary on jobs, just incentive to the private sector, NOT Obamacare, NOT more regulations, NOT higher taxes and the private sector will create jobs

pbrauer · Jul 7, 2013

Conservative said:
Guess Gimme isn't really interested in some truth at all. Wonder where he/she thinks the 842 billion stimulus signed in February 2009 was supposed to go? Wonder why it is people like Gimme that believes it is the government's responsibility to spend taxpayer money for the private sector to create jobs? Fact is, it isn't, govt, spending of taxpayer dollars simply creates dependence and has no place in propping up the private sector which should succeed or fail on its own. No spending is necessary on jobs, just incentive to the private sector, NOT Obamacare, NOT more regulations, NOT higher taxes and the private sector will create jobs

Did the government's investment in the Internet, space program or even the wars create jobs?

Conservative · Jul 7, 2013

pbrauer said:
Did the government's investment in the Internet, space program or even the wars create jobs?

You call wars an investment? The govt. provided the incentive and the private sector did the rest on the Internet. Space program is being privatized now or haven't you noticed? You really are very naïve when it comes to understanding the private sector economy. It really is a shame because millions of small businesses which are the engine that drives this economy are being destroyed by liberalism

Conservative · Jul 7, 2013

pbrauer said:
Did the government's investment in the Internet, space program or even the wars create jobs?

Why don't you answer post 139 since Disneydude is avoiding it. Or are you going to run away like you usually do?

pbrauer · Jul 7, 2013

Conservative said:
You call wars an investment? The govt. provided the incentive and the private sector did the rest on the Internet. Space program is being privatized now or haven't you noticed? You really are very naïve when it comes to understanding the private sector economy. It really is a shame because millions of small businesses which are the engine that drives this economy are being destroyed by liberalism

Yes the space program is now being privatized, after how many years? Under whose leadership is the space program being privatized?

Conservative · Jul 7, 2013

pbrauer said:
Yes the space program is now being privatized, after how many years? Under whose leadership is the space program being privatized?

Does it matter, like all liberals you try to make a mountain out of a mole hill. There are certain things the govt. has to do and one of them is space but space is a very small part of our economy just like govt. spending isn't the largest part of our GDP. Liberals like you for some reason believe it isn't big enough showing how little you know about the foundation upon which our economy was built. We are in a economic funk now because of liberalism and beliefs such as yours. When will you admit that you are wrong in your ideology?

pbrauer · Jul 7, 2013

Conservative said:
How about an honest answer for a change. If you knew then that we would have 2 million fewer people employed, 1.8% GDP growth, over 6 trillion added to the debt, 14.3% unemployment, a stagnant labor force four years after then end of the recession would you still believe Obama met your standards or do you have such low standards?

Would you have voted for Bush knowing that the economy would crash in 2008 or do you just have low standards?

Conservative said:
Why don't you answer post 139 since Disneydude is avoiding it. Or are you going to run away like you usually do?

I did not vote for Obama because of the economy as I believe a president can't influence the economy all that much. Besides there are other reasons I voted or him.

rabbitcaebannog · Jul 7, 2013

Conservative said:
Does it matter, like all liberals you try to make a mountain out of a mole hill. There are certain things the govt. has to do and one of them is space but space is a very small part of our economy just like govt. spending isn't the largest part of our GDP. Liberals like you for some reason believe it isn't big enough showing how little you know about the foundation upon which our economy was built. We are in a economic funk now because of liberalism and beliefs such as yours. When will you admit that you are wrong in your ideology?

Define "liberalism".... Economic liberalism or something else?

Conservative · Jul 7, 2013

pbrauer said:
Would you have voted for Bush knowing that the economy would crash in 2008 or do you just have low standards?

I did not vote for Obama because of the economy as I believe a president can't influence the economy all that much. Besides there are other reasons I voted or him.

Voting for Bush in 2004 was easy, the opponent was Kerry, one of the most liberal Senators in the Congress. The economy didn't crash because of Bush, it crashed because of Congressional inaction and the desire to regain the WH vs. doing their job and what was right for the American people

You voted for the least experienced and poorest prepared individual to ever hold the office and here we are over four years later with economic results that would make Europe proud, high unemployment, high debt, low economic growth, hardly an economy for the greatest country on the face of the earth and these results are due to lack of leadership.

Without strong leadership and a strong economy nothing else matters including the reason you voted for Obama