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Changing the topic is concession of the point.

The article is replete with falsehoods, I showed just a very easily refuted one.

Hint: Stop using articles from investment bankers about how great it would be for them if they could get their hands on SS dollars to argue against SS.

NO, what the article shows is how easily someone like you is brainwashed by an ideology that makes no sense and as long as you simply throw money at the problem that is good enough for you. There is nothing in that article that is wrong and the fact that you say it is wrong just gives it more credibility. It is going to take cash and borrowing to pay those obligations and that it the new reality.
 
Vs the world you want it to be, please explain what the "racist" Thomas Sowell meant when he said the following:

No one is doing this. You want the government in control. Factually, and remember this, if the government is in charge, there are no regulations, no minimum wage, China. We have those things not because government s in charge, but because those who work and have a stake fight for them. To have what you ask for, what you quote above, we'd have to be China. You just don't see the situation clearly. But I am trying to get through to you.
 
NO, what the article shows is how easily someone like you is brainwashed by an ideology that makes no sense and as long as you simply throw money at the problem that is good enough for you. There is nothing in that article that is wrong and the fact that you say it is wrong just gives it more credibility. It is going to take cash and borrowing to pay those obligations and that it the new reality.
Um, the "borrowing" has been FROM the SSTF, it has alway been funded by "cash" called taxes....that EVERY earner has paid into.

And the fact that you are clearly writing this last line in a future tense shows that even you understand that the SSTF is current.
So not only do you admit to the inaccuracy of the article, you still contradict by saying there is nothing wrong with the article.
 
No one is doing this. You want the government in control. Factually, and remember this, if the government is in charge, there are no regulations, no minimum wage, China. We have those things not because government s in charge, but because those who work and have a stake fight for them. To have what you ask for, what you quote above, we'd have to be China. You just don't see the situation clearly. But I am trying to get through to you.

No, I didn't vote for Obama. I have more faith in the American worker than you do as I believe they will generate what they actually deserve in pay and benefits. You don't want the pay offered, then don't take the job. Why did you take your job? Are you that much smarter than everyone else? Minimum wage isn't the business of the government as we have laws against abuse of the worker.
 
Um, the "borrowing" has been FROM the SSTF, it has alway been funded by "cash" called taxes....that EVERY earner has paid into.

And the fact that you are clearly writing this last line in a future tense shows that even you understand that the SSTF is current.
So not only do you admit to the inaccuracy of the article, you still contradict by saying there is nothing wrong with the article.

Good, borrowing from the SSTF means what exactly? how is it going to be paid back with fewer workers and growing expenses? That so called funding you are talking about has led to trillion dollar deficits. There is no cash to fund those IOU's and the sooner the light bulb goes off the sooner we can correct the problem.
 
Good, borrowing from the SSTF means what exactly? how is it going to be paid back with fewer workers and growing expenses? That so called funding you are talking about has led to trillion dollar deficits. There is no cash to fund those IOU's and the sooner the light bulb goes off the sooner we can correct the problem.

There is a it more to it.


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No, I didn't vote for Obama. I have more faith in the American worker than you do as I believe they will generate what they actually deserve in pay and benefits. You don't want the pay offered, then don't take the job. Why did you take your job? Are you that much smarter than everyone else? Minimum wage isn't the business of the government as we have laws against abuse of the worker.

Again, Obama is not China. China has no regulations. No minimum wage. You want China. Here, workers who have a stake also contribute. Also make up what a business is. In China, only the owners do. You want China.
 
Again, Obama is not China. China has no regulations. No minimum wage. You want China. Here, workers who have a stake also contribute. Also make up what a business is. In China, only the owners do. You want China.

This is ridiculous as you don't know me and all you do is speculate. I wasn't successful because I screwed people but the regulations out there are out of hand and hurting economic growth and job creation. without economic growth and job creation you may have a beautiful world that no one can afford to live in but the bureaucrats that make the regulations. There has to be a good balance. We have the regulations on the books to protect the workers let the states decide on EPA rules and regulations not a bureaucrat in D.C. You are the one looking for central control or so it seems.
 
This is ridiculous as you don't know me and all you do is speculate. I wasn't successful because I screwed people but the regulations out there are out of hand and hurting economic growth and job creation. without economic growth and job creation you may have a beautiful world that no one can afford to live in but the bureaucrats that make the regulations. There has to be a good balance. We have the regulations on the books to protect the workers let the states decide on EPA rules and regulations not a bureaucrat in D.C. You are the one looking for central control or so it seems.

I'm not spectating at all. What you call for is what China has. If our government was actually, factually what you try to call it, we would have no regulations and no minimum wage. When governments run things, like in China, you get the things you want. No regulations and no minimum wage. However, when people are free, involved, and have a stake, like workers do, you get regulations and minimum wage. Government doesn't want them. Free people do.
 
I'm not spectating at all. What you call for is what China has. If our government was actually, factually what you try to call it, we would have no regulations and no minimum wage. When governments run things, like in China, you get the things you want. No regulations and no minimum wage. However, when people are free, involved, and have a stake, like workers do, you get regulations and minimum wage. Government doesn't want them. Free people do.

You are nuts, it is liberalism that wants China and total control of the economy, not conservatives. You are so out of touch with reality that China is probably where you need to move. You think that liberals don't want wage control, more regulations, and more power? What planet do you live on? Do you realize that a 3.77 trillion dollar budget gives that govt. more power? Do you realize that the more the govt. spends the more power they have and the more dependence they create? Minimum wage isn't going to make anyone rich yet liberals promote minimum wage increases. Why? Power, that's why
 
You are nuts, it is liberalism that wants China and total control of the economy, not conservatives. You are so out of touch with reality that China is probably where you need to move. You think that liberals don't want wage control, more regulations, and more power? What planet do you live on? Do you realize that a 3.77 trillion dollar budget gives that govt. more power? Do you realize that the more the govt. spends the more power they have and the more dependence they create? Minimum wage isn't going to make anyone rich yet liberals promote minimum wage increases. Why? Power, that's why

You think China wants wage control and regulation?
 
You are nuts, it is liberalism that wants China and total control of the economy, not conservatives. You are so out of touch with reality that China is probably where you need to move. You think that liberals don't want wage control, more regulations, and more power? What planet do you live on? Do you realize that a 3.77 trillion dollar budget gives that govt. more power? Do you realize that the more the govt. spends the more power they have and the more dependence they create? Minimum wage isn't going to make anyone rich yet liberals promote minimum wage increases. Why? Power, that's why

Really?

Who doesn't want regulations? You and China.

Who doesn't want minimum wage? You and China.

Get it yet?
 
Really?

Who doesn't want regulations? You and China.

Who doesn't want minimum wage? You and China.

Get it yet?

Got it, nothing every changes the mind of a brainwashed liberal who in spite of terrible economic numbers pours on the gas.
 
Got it, nothing every changes the mind of a brainwashed liberal who in spite of terrible economic numbers pours on the gas.

Dispute what I said. I'm trying to show the error in you thinking. Can you see it. Link what you want with who provides it. The answer always comes back to China.
 
Good, borrowing from the SSTF means what exactly? how is it going to be paid back with fewer workers and growing expenses? That so called funding you are talking about has led to trillion dollar deficits. There is no cash to fund those IOU's and the sooner the light bulb goes off the sooner we can correct the problem.

"how is it going to be paid back with fewer workers and growing expenses?"

Simple solution, as you were told many,many times before in countless threads.

remove the cap and and let the overthrow fund Medicare.:2wave:
 
Simple solution, as you were told many,many times before in countless threads.

remove the cap and and let the overthrow fund Medicare.:2wave:

Or business could be charged for their employees that have to receive Medicaid and or other public assistance
 
There is no cash to fund those IOU's
Why do you keep confirming that the govt does not operate on a balance sheet accounting but on cash flow?

Any time you want to show any postings of when Bush was in office and you were DEMANDING that we should be paying back SSTF borrowing, go right ahead and link to it.

I mean, I can link to you complaining when Clinton was doing precisely that.
 
Why do you keep confirming that the govt does not operate on a balance sheet accounting but on cash flow?

Any time you want to show any postings of when Bush was in office and you were DEMANDING that we should be paying back SSTF borrowing, go right ahead and link to it.

I mean, I can link to you complaining when Clinton was doing precisely that.


"Rs" produce blind spots for some. "Ds" for others.
 
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Or business could be charged for their employees that have to receive Medicaid and or other public assistance

LOL, yep, how long do you think Business would fund those programs and not pass on the costs to the consumer?
 
Why do you keep confirming that the govt does not operate on a balance sheet accounting but on cash flow?

Any time you want to show any postings of when Bush was in office and you were DEMANDING that we should be paying back SSTF borrowing, go right ahead and link to it.

I mean, I can link to you complaining when Clinton was doing precisely that.

Point is why don't you know the difference?
 
I think he does. R versus D. :coffeepap

I voted for a D in JFK who understood the private sector and how to stimulate it. No D since JFK has been worth a damn in managing the private sector economy. Obamanomics is a failure so no matter how many times you divert from that record it isn't going to change the results.
 
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