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University Tells Student to Remove Cross Necklace

No, what you're asking is for me to divulge personal information to back up an anecdote, I'm not going to do that. So, I tell you to take it as it is, if you don't hey, great, if you do, hey, great, I don't care...

I know it to be true, that's about all that can be said on the subject.

I never asked you to divulge personal information. I asked you to back up your claim that that had happened anywhere. you opted out and it's because you can't find any. Which is why you are now hidding behind the "it's personal" bit. You threw it out there like it's an everyday common thing everywhere. If so, surely you can find one instance that isn't personal to you.
 
I never asked you to divulge personal information. I asked you to back up your claim that that had happened anywhere. you opted out and it's because you can't find any. Which is why you are now hidding behind the "it's personal" bit. You threw it out there like it's an everyday common thing everywhere. If so, surely you can find one instance that isn't personal to you.

Perhaps you are unclear of what an anecdote is. For me to back up my claim would be to provide you with additional evidence to my story, this would mean I would hve to provide you with either contact numbers of former coworkers, or the name and # to the university where I was employed.

I've been to several State Universities and what I've said has been true of all of them, what can I do to make you believe? Nothing, which is why I told you to take it or leave it, I don't care, I said plainly that it was an anecdote, that means you can take it as such, believe don't believe, but your insistence to try to prove me wrong by continuously saying that you need more proof you need more proof....

Surely you can use google, yahoo, bing, or any other search engine and look for yourself, I ain't your errand boy... you are the one contesting me after all, therefore, if you want to take the task on to disprove my anecdote, by all means...have at it.
 
So you don't like it when someone gives another credit for pointing out extremism? I do it to the gun nuts all the time, but the leftist around here seem to have a real problem with it.

Good Lord your patronizing condescension is eye-rolling and vomit inducing. :roll:
No matter the lean, anyone with more than one functioning brain cell can easily decipher--that if the OP story is correct--then indeed Mr. Jarvis went way too far.
 
So you don't like it when someone gives another credit for pointing out extremism? I do it to the gun nuts all the time, but the leftist around here seem to have a real problem with it.

Let me explain this because you have failed to grasp the error of your thinking. This issue has zero to do with lean and I have no idea why anyone would even fathom the notion. There are plenty of liberals who are quite religious. One doesn't need to be a staunch conservative to worship the Lord, and if you look at the thread, pretty much all Liberals agree that it was wrong to take away the right of the student to wear her cross. This thread is about right and wrong -- a mistake made by an overly zealous and ill-informed school staff member.
 
Never understood the insistence of people to wear religious symbols, clothing, badges etc.
 
Ok then, we agree....Man that small point was hard to get out of you...ah well....:coffeepap:

You should have just asked instead leaping into another conversation. :coffeepap
 
While it is true many fine liberal people are religous and have Christian beliefs and values there is an extreme anti Christian element that is also liberal. All too often leftists ignore that hatred and extremism - I was merely applauding the author of the post (an admitted liberal) for admonishing those who were too extreme. As an example I own, carry and support gun rights. I enjoy my firearms, I collect them, and use them routinely. Still I admonish the gun nuts that think we should have no laws, no restrictions and everyone should have a package nuke in their Pirus just because the constitution didn't set forth grounds for "controls." I rarely see an admitted liberal call out an extrmist liberal - I'm glad when it happens. I try to call out extremist conservatives (most are libertarains) when they earn it - which is often.


Let me explain this because you have failed to grasp the error of your thinking. This issue has zero to do with lean and I have no idea why anyone would even fathom the notion. There are plenty of liberals who are quite religious. One doesn't need to be a staunch conservative to worship the Lord, and if you look at the thread, pretty much all Liberals agree that it was wrong to take away the right of the student to wear her cross. This thread is about right and wrong -- a mistake made by an overly zealous and ill-informed school staff member.
 
Let me explain this because you have failed to grasp the error of your thinking. This issue has zero to do with lean and I have no idea why anyone would even fathom the notion. There are plenty of liberals who are quite religious. One doesn't need to be a staunch conservative to worship the Lord, and if you look at the thread, pretty much all Liberals agree that it was wrong to take away the right of the student to wear her cross. This thread is about right and wrong -- a mistake made by an overly zealous and ill-informed school staff member.

Which is evidence of libbo's gone wild and the solution is to lower taxes on the rich and do everything we can to increase their profits.
 
While it is true many fine liberal people are religous and have Christian beliefs and values there is an extreme anti Christian element that is also liberal. All too often leftists ignore that hatred and extremism - I was merely applauding the author of the post (an admitted liberal) for admonishing those who were too extreme. As an example I own, carry and support gun rights. I enjoy my firearms, I collect them, and use them routinely. Still I admonish the gun nuts that think we should have no laws, no restrictions and everyone should have a package nuke in their Pirus just because the constitution didn't set forth grounds for "controls." I rarely see an admitted liberal call out an extrmist liberal - I'm glad when it happens. I try to call out extremist conservatives (most are libertarains) when they earn it - which is often.

In other words we're used to seeing hundreds, thousands of stories of nutty rightwing jerks acting like complete asses so the one chance you get of liberal extremism you all go balls deep absolutely nuts over it because there won't be another for six months and you need to milk this for all its worth.
 
Seen thru the eyes of a complete partisan hack borderline extremist - so much failure


In other words we're used to seeing hundreds, thousands of stories of nutty rightwing jerks acting like complete asses so the one chance you get of liberal extremism you all go balls deep absolutely nuts over it because there won't be another for six months and you need to milk this for all its worth.
 
Perhaps you are unclear of what an anecdote is. For me to back up my claim would be to provide you with additional evidence to my story, this would mean I would hve to provide you with either contact numbers of former coworkers, or the name and # to the university where I was employed.

I've been to several State Universities and what I've said has been true of all of them, what can I do to make you believe? Nothing, which is why I told you to take it or leave it, I don't care, I said plainly that it was an anecdote, that means you can take it as such, believe don't believe, but your insistence to try to prove me wrong by continuously saying that you need more proof you need more proof....

Surely you can use google, yahoo, bing, or any other search engine and look for yourself, I ain't your errand boy... you are the one contesting me after all, therefore, if you want to take the task on to disprove my anecdote, by all means...have at it.

I'd take any proof at this point aside of your slanderous ascertions of these universities that...


ChezC3 said:
It's the same why Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa, The Hindu Festival of Lights, and Ramadan can be plastered all over university walls but no Merry Christmas, that must be replaced with Happy Holidays.

Seems like a comment of widespread occurrances. And for some reason all we got is your anecdotes. Which is why most people will not believe you.
 
But its true.

Leftists are weird. They can be very skeptical about any anecdotes on their pet issues, to the point where they become belligerent, rude and upset, but will believe everything Barrack Obama and his buddies tell them. This goes a long way to explain the trouble that has come to America.
 
Righies are weird. They can be very skeptical about any anecdotes on their pet issues, to the point where they become belligerent, rude and upset, but will believe everything (place republican or conservative talking head here) and his buddies tell them. This goes a long way to explain the trouble that has come to America.

I can do that as well, and be just as accurate. :coffeepap
 
Leftists are weird. They can be very skeptical about any anecdotes on their pet issues, to the point where they become belligerent, rude and upset, but will believe everything Barrack Obama and his buddies tell them. This goes a long way to explain the trouble that has come to America.

I don't particularly care for Obama, but you guys make him look good with your ridiculous arguments.

OMG IRS SCANDAL OBAMA IS WURSE PREZ EVA

Even though there isn't a single piece of evidence that he had anything to do with it. :roll:

OMG HE'S A SOCIALIST MARXIST WEALTH DISTRIBUTOR

Even though he has bowed down to big money and let them walk all over the people. :roll:

OMG LIBRULS R ATTACKING AND OPPRESSING CHRISTIANS

No they're not, just stfu. Your precious jeebus is safe and sound almost everywhere.
 
I don't particularly care for Obama, but you guys make him look good with your ridiculous arguments.

OMG IRS SCANDAL OBAMA IS WURSE PREZ EVA

Even though there isn't a single piece of evidence that he had anything to do with it. :roll:

OMG HE'S A SOCIALIST MARXIST WEALTH DISTRIBUTOR

Even though he has bowed down to big money and let them walk all over the people. :roll:

OMG LIBRULS R ATTACKING AND OPPRESSING CHRISTIANS

No they're not, just stfu. Your precious jeebus is safe and sound almost everywhere.

Thank You.

I rest my case!
 
In other news on the War on Christianity, non-Christians still can't be President. Details at eleven.
 
In other news on the War on Christianity, non-Christians still can't be President. Details at eleven.

yeah, that must really keep you up nights, huh?
 
I don't particularly care for Obama, but you guys make him look good with your ridiculous arguments.

OMG IRS SCANDAL OBAMA IS WURSE PREZ EVA

Even though there isn't a single piece of evidence that he had anything to do with it. :roll:

OMG HE'S A SOCIALIST MARXIST WEALTH DISTRIBUTOR

Even though he has bowed down to big money and let them walk all over the people. :roll:

OMG LIBRULS R ATTACKING AND OPPRESSING CHRISTIANS

No they're not, just stfu. Your precious jeebus is safe and sound almost everywhere.

You don't care for Obama, ok, I'll accept that on face value. That doesn't mean that you don't bring an element of what Grant is talking about to your argument..Incivility, and mockery are never ways to reasoned, rational debate, yet in this very thread you represent conservatives as some sort of uneducated, slack jawed rubes, that cling to religion in a pejorative description you present. In fact, if we were face to face, instead of on a political message board, I doubt you'd have the gall to be that obnoxious outright, either that or you'd be the guy at the party asked to leave because you'd be getting all loud and ****, with this over the top crap.

And Joe (Boo) likes it, and thinks your childish antics make your point....Only in a world of meatheads would that be true.
 
In other news on the War on Christianity, non-Christians still can't be President. Details at eleven.

Maybe you're bringing the war in the wrong battlefield....Ever think of how dumb it is to try and argue against Christianity in a nation that is 80% plus Christian? That'd be like you and ten of your like minded friends to go up against the Ottoman empire with little more than a spear.
 
Maybe you're bringing the war in the wrong battlefield....Ever think of how dumb it is to try and argue against Christianity in a nation that is 80% plus Christian? That'd be like you and ten of your like minded friends to go up against the Ottoman empire with little more than a spear.

Was I arguing against Christianity?

In any case, according to Gallup 77% of Americans identify as Christian. So as the predominant demographic is Christian and non-Christians can't even be President, the persecution claimed by Christians is hollow and unconvincing.
 
You don't care for Obama, ok, I'll accept that on face value. That doesn't mean that you don't bring an element of what Grant is talking about to your argument..Incivility, and mockery are never ways to reasoned, rational debate, yet in this very thread you represent conservatives as some sort of uneducated, slack jawed rubes, that cling to religion in a pejorative description you present. In fact, if we were face to face, instead of on a political message board, I doubt you'd have the gall to be that obnoxious outright, either that or you'd be the guy at the party asked to leave because you'd be getting all loud and ****, with this over the top crap.

And Joe (Boo) likes it, and thinks your childish antics make your point....Only in a world of meatheads would that be true.

I might be an asshole, but I'm right. You're displaying all the characteristics of a losing fight, looking to deflect away from the argument. You say I'm a big meenie, if we were face to face you'd scare me, lol, I'm not socially acceptable? lol

Are you really chastising me on this forum where most of your brethren act like complete partisan jackasses? I've gone too far? Oh my that's interesting.

P.S. If we were face to face you'd soil your diaper as you look up and my goatee scratches your eyeballs.
 
Maybe you're bringing the war in the wrong battlefield....Ever think of how dumb it is to try and argue against Christianity in a nation that is 80% plus Christian? That'd be like you and ten of your like minded friends to go up against the Ottoman empire with little more than a spear.

That's right! Learn your place in this country, boy. Or else the American Taliban will blow up your house.
 
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