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To cheers, same-sex marriages resume in California [W:381]

Hey kids, look, he's pretending interpretation of a law in a legal proceeding, means "changing word meanings". How clever!

You as a supposed lawyer know better. That is precisely how the meaning of words and phrases are changed, especially in the realm of politics.
 
Can you provide the link and post number on this thread where I did that?

Sure. Just back up a few posts to number #517. What I said (and you quoted) accompanied by your non sequitur. It's like we weren't even having the same conversation.
 
Did I disagree with you?
I stated that you are correct.
Now tell me what in Reality has changed just because you happen to be correct?


Bill of rights....rights of the people

1st amendment......"congress shall make no law" .......translated to now.......congress and the .......states shall make no laws


general welfare...powers of government 18

many of the duties of congress have been expanded.....becuase its been translated into ...social duties, commerce duties ,immigration duties, environmental duties and others
 
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Whether the court was given the power,or seized the power,they just did.
That are you going to do about it?

Well, there's nothing we can do about it. The court very carefully laid the foundations for their power grab. This is why we're exactly where Jefferson and the other founders warned us of:

to Spencer Roane in 1819:

"In denying the right [the Supreme Court usurps] of exclusively explaining the Constitution, I go further than [others] do, if I understand rightly [this] quotation from the Federalist of an opinion that 'the judiciary is the last resort in relation to the other departments of the government, but not in relation to the rights of the parties to the compact under which the judiciary is derived.' If this opinion be sound, then indeed is our Constitution a complete felo de se[act of suicide]. For intending to establish three departments, coordinate and independent, that they might check and balance one another, it has given, according to this opinion, to one of them alone the right to prescribe rules for the government of the others, and to that one, too, which is unelected by and independent of the nation. For experience has already shown that the impeachment it has provided is not even a scare-crow... The Constitution on this hypothesis is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please."

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Whether the court was given the power,or seized the power,they just did.
That are you going to do about it?

all one can do is a few things, change the system within with political ideas, and mine are libertarian.

change the political system by violate action.

or some of us, break away from the system and create our own.
 
Bill of rights....rights of the people

1st amendment......"congress shall make no law" .......translated to now.......congress and the .......states shall make no laws


general welfare...powers of government 18

many of the duties of congress have been expanded.....becuase its been translated into ...social duties, commerce duties ,immigration duties, environmental duties and others

Once again you are correct.
Have I argued with you about that?
And gay people are still getting married,and I am still making money off of it.
So what are you planning on doing about it?
 
Once again you are correct.
Have I argued with you about that?
And gay people are still getting married,and I am still making money off of it.
So what are you planning on doing about it?


pleas sir, i am not claiming you are against me.

waiting for the time bomb to explode, the founders say when the people become uneducated, and dont know what kind of government they have, tyranny will be at hand.

and i am sure you have seen how educated people are on t.v. and calling america a democracy.
 
all one can do is a few things, change the system within with political ideas, and mine are libertarian.
Good for you.But a word of advice?
Suitcases of cash seem to work a lot better than ideologies when it comes to politicians.
But that's just my opinion.
You yourself should know that arguing a case in front of the Supreme Court is not cheap.
One side of the case got their moneys worth,the other side didn't.
And I'm sure the lawyers involved made lots of money either way.
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change the political system by violate action.
Good luck with that.
or some of us, break away from the system and create our own.
I wish you all the success.So how much money are you pulling down by creating your own system?
 
pleas sir, i am not claiming you are against me.

waiting for the time bomb to explode, the founders say when the people become uneducated, and dont know what kind of government they have, tyranny will be at hand.

and i am sure you have seen how educated people are on t.v. and calling america a democracy.

Personally,I think we stopped being a "democracy" since the days of the Whiskey and Shay Rebellions,and the ink on the Constitution wasn't even dry yet when those were put down.But again,that's just my opinion.

No offense Ernst,but I hear a lot of bitching,but I really don't hear :"Tick..tick..tick...".

You can wait around for the ticking timebomb couch potatoes in this country to explode all you want.I'm not going to stop you.
But right now,there are a lot of gay couples who need catering services for their weddings in California,and I want to be the one to provide it for them.
 
Personally,I think we stopped being a "democracy" since the days of the Whiskey and Shay Rebellions,and the ink on the Constitution wasn't even dry yet when those were put down.But again,that's just my opinion.

No offense Ernst,but I hear a lot of bitching,but I really don't hear :"Tick..tick..tick...".

You can wait around for the ticking time bomb couch potatoes in this country to explode all you want.I'm not going to stop you want.

well that's not exactly what i mean, i mean the problems the government has created by economic policies and foreign polices, and the violation of rights all together.

america was never created as a direct /representative democracy this is false and been taught to the American people since 1890, we are a constitutional republic with a republican form of government, with a mixed constitution .... not a democratic one.

democracy is the most vile form of government--james madison

John Adams wrote in 1806: "I once thought our Constitution was quasi or mixed government, but they (Republicans) have now made it, to all intents and purposes, in virtue, in spirit, and in effect, a democracy. We are left without resources but in our prayers and tears, and have nothing that we can do or say, but the Lord have mercy on us."


But right now,there are a lot of gay couples who need catering services for their weddings in California,and I want to be the one to provide it for them.

that's fine, freedom of choice, and ability of people to enter into voluntary exchanges are want i want to see....i bid you success .

however i dont agree with many on this forum, who believe government has the power to force people to do things against they will, who have not committed a crime.
 
I guarantee this would go bad for you, since most denominations do not follow what the Bible says exactly due to differences in interpretations.

But that's just the point....gays could apply instances of perceived homosexuality in the current bible...everyone takes out of it what they want!
 
But that's just the point....gays could apply instances of perceived homosexuality in the current bible...everyone takes out of it what they want!

Which makes it a useless device for deciding law of the United States, wouldn't you say?
 
But that's just the point....gays could apply instances of perceived homosexuality in the current bible...everyone takes out of it what they want!

Exactly, that is the point and why the Bible nor "what God/Jesus says" should never be used as a basis for US laws. If you are trying to tie marriage of US law to the Bible or God, your argument fails. If you are trying to tie legality of homosexuality or sodomy to anything in the Bible or God, your argument fails.
 
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