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SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

Jerry said:
Lame.
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I only play when I'm at sea and tired of looking at water, steel, and other hard legs.
I like the scenery. :)

Which server do YOU play on?
 
yobarnacle said:
Gays can do what they want in the privacy of the bedroom. The problem is they won't let it STAY in the bedroom.

Where in ANY federal or state law is it ok to flaunt sexuality?

Discretion please, and marriage belongs to heterosexuals. Invent something new.

And invent some new words to describe yourself. Rainbow doesn't belong to you, nor gay for that matter. Old Fred Flintstone can't have a gay old time now days.

if you want respect? GIVE SOME!
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The equal protection thing. If you can do something with your wife/girlfriend/SO in public, so should those in same sex relationships be allowed to do those things. There is no legitimate reason to restrict what they do in public to something less than what opposite sex couples are allowed to do.
 
yobarnacle said:
Gays can do what they want in the privacy of the bedroom. The problem is they won't let it STAY in the bedroom.

Where in ANY federal or state law is it ok to flaunt sexuality?

Discretion please, and marriage belongs to heterosexuals. Invent something new.

And invent some new words to describe yourself. Rainbow doesn't belong to you, nor gay for that matter. Old Fred Flintstone can't have a gay old time now days.

if you want respect? GIVE SOME!
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Quit flaunting your heterosexuality. Don't you know how offensive that is to me, personally?
 
Deuce said:
Quit flaunting your heterosexuality. Don't you know how offensive that is to me, personally?
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Under 1st amendment I can SAY offensive things if I wish1 That's my right. You do NOT have a right to be not offended! Not YET anyway. God forbid you ever do.

Flaunting is parading around and deliberately calling attention to yourself because, well maybe you didn't get enough attention when you were little?
 
yobarnacle said:
Under 1st amendment I can SAY offensive things if I wish1 That's my right. You do NOT have a right to be not offended! Not YET anyway. God forbid you ever do.

Flaunting is parading around and deliberately calling attention to yourself because, well maybe you didn't get enough attention when you were little?
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The same applies to you, you have no right to not be offended by homosexuality, and Same Sex Marriage.
 
hfd said:
Why shouldn't polygamy be legal? And again, if we are the result of millions of years of evolutionary accidents why should we legalize incest? Other animals are involved in it. They seem to do quite well.
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You are welcome to your opinion although I disagree. Perhaps you should join a movement and petition the courts. When you get the majority of the public to agree with you about polygamy and incest you might have a chance at them being recognized...good luck, you'll need it.
 
Jack Hays said:
The "point by Joaquin" doesn't exist as a point of Constitutional interest. The availability (or not) of suitable mates is a point on which the Constitution is silent.:mrgreen:
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Um, it wasn't a point made in the constitution, who said that? It was a point made in the prohibition of polygamy by legislation.

But I did not expect you to address the point directly, you seldom do.
 
Your Star said:
The same applies to you, you have no right to not be offended by homosexuality, and Same Sex Marriage.
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You are the ones saying I'm offended.

I never said I was offended.

I'm ANGRY that our traditional values are being flushed down the toilet!

Well, that's not precise either. I'm WAY past angry! i'm FURIOUS!

And determined with others to do something about it.

First we need to throw EVERY incumbent in congress and senate out on their "collective" arses. In 2014.
 
yobarnacle said:
You are the ones saying I'm offended.

I never said I was offended.

I'm ANGRY that our traditional values are being flushed down the toilet!

Well, that's not precise either. I'm WAY past angry! i'm FURIOUS!

And determined with others to do something about it.

First we need to throw EVERY incumbent in congress and senate out on their "collective" arses. In 2014.
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You have no right to not be angry, or furious, or whatever you feel about this either. The majority of the country disagree's with you, and soon it will be law in all 50 states. It is an inevitability that you will have to get used too.

Also, if your "values" are centered around denying people the right to live their lives as they see fit, then I'm glad I'm not on your side. And it's easy to see why your side is losing this fight, badly.
 
I believe God is watching and the SCOTUS made a terrible mistake today by one vote. I believe this just another step until the end of the world
 
Your Star said:
You have no right to not be angry, or furious, or whatever you feel about this either. QUOTE]

A double negative is a positive and you are correct. I DO have a right to be angry and do something about it. And your definition of majority is strange.

Same-Sex Marriage Support Solidifies Above 50% in U.S.

"May 13, 2013
Same-Sex Marriage Support Solidifies Above 50% in U.S.

Results for this Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted May 2-7, 2013, with a random sample of 1,535 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia.

For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points.

Samples are weighted to correct for unequal selection probability, "

Only 1500 people sampled?
samples weighted?

95% probability +/- 3 % ?

I wouldn't crow too loud.

i'd also be curious if the pollsters were straight or gay? Might have affected the poll do you think?

and Gallop is definetly a liberal outfit. Proven to be Not un-biased.
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yobarnacle said:
A double negative is a positive and you are correct. I DO have a right to be angry and do something about it. And your definition of majority is strange.

Same-Sex Marriage Support Solidifies Above 50% in U.S.

"May 13, 2013
Same-Sex Marriage Support Solidifies Above 50% in U.S.

Results for this Gallup poll are based on telephone interviews conducted May 2-7, 2013, with a random sample of 1,535 adults, aged 18 and older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia.

For results based on the total sample of national adults, one can say with 95% confidence that the margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points.

Samples are weighted to correct for unequal selection probability, "

Only 1500 people sampled?
samples weighted?

95% probability +/- 3 % ?

I wouldn't crow too loud.

i'd also be curious if the pollsters were straight or gay? Might have affected the poll do you think?

and Gallop is definetly a liberal outfit. Proven to be Not un-biased.
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You do have a right to be angry, but your anger is no justification for disallowing SSM. You are going to have to come up with a better argument than that.

And multiple polls show this, it is a well known fact that this country is for SSM.
 
Navy Pride said:
I believe God is watching and the SCOTUS made a terrible mistake today by one vote. I believe this just another step until the end of the world
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Have you built you rapture bunker yet? I know a great interior designer that could make it just fab!
 
Your Star said:
You do have a right to be angry, but your anger is no justification for disallowing SSM. You are going to have to come up with a better argument than that.

And multiple polls show this, it is a well known fact that this country is for SSM.
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Every society in history that collapsed, had the same symptoms we have in USA today. Lack of morals, malaise, apathy.

and prevalent among those symptoms was wide acceptance of homosexuality.

it's symptomatic of civilization in decline.

THAT's what makes me angry. The country I love, in decline!

becoming Sodom and Gomorrah!
 
yobarnacle said:
Every society in history that collapsed, had the same symptoms we have in USA today. Lack of morals, malaise, apathy.

and prevalent among those symptoms was wide acceptance of homosexuality.

it's symptomatic of civilization in decline.

THAT's what makes me angry. The country I love, in decline!

becoming Sodom and Gomorrah!
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Yeah that's not true :lol:

Today was a moral VICTORY, not a moral defeat.
 
Your Star said:
Yeah that's not true :lol:

Today was a moral VICTORY, not a moral defeat.
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I'm not going to EVER agree that homosexuals hold the MORAL high ground!

Neither does a SCOTUS that endorses homosexuality.
 
Papa bull said:
And that is the real dilemma for the "equal rights"/discrimination argument. You can't prove that sexual acts are dependent upon immutable characteristics.
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And you can't prove that they aren't, eh?

We can prove that the DOMA is unconstitutional, the Supreme Court just said that it is.




"Better day's are coming." ~ But not for today's outf touch, running out of time, GOP.
 
yobarnacle said:
I'm not going to EVER agree that homosexuals hold the MORAL high ground!

Neither does a SCOTUS that endorses homosexuality.
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The Supreme Court doesn't care whether you agree with it or not.

Neither do most Americans.
 
Navy Pride said:
I believe God is watching and the SCOTUS made a terrible mistake today by one vote. I believe this just another step until the end of the world
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Better start building your rapture bunker.

Have a nice day.

"Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." Robert Green Ingersoll.
 
yobarnacle said:
Under 1st amendment I can SAY offensive things if I wish1 That's my right. You do NOT have a right to be not offended! Not YET anyway. God forbid you ever do.

Flaunting is parading around and deliberately calling attention to yourself because, well maybe you didn't get enough attention when you were little?
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I'm not offended by you, I'm amused. :lamo
 
Your Star said:
The same applies to you, you have no right to not be offended by homosexuality, and Same Sex Marriage.
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If it's good for the goose and the gander, it's just as good for two gooses or two ganders.
 
Navy Pride said:
I believe God is watching and the SCOTUS made a terrible mistake today by one vote. I believe this just another step until the end of the world
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Oh, stop it NP. That's just a ridiculous statement.
 
yobarnacle said:
I'm not going to EVER agree that homosexuals hold the MORAL high ground!

Neither does a SCOTUS that endorses homosexuality.
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Truthfully, your morals are irrelevant. From what I've seen, you have not presented a logical argument to your position. Your sole reason seems to be "I don't like it". That's fine and that's your right, but it has no bearing in debate.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Truthfully, your morals are irrelevant. From what I've seen, you have not presented a logical argument to your position. Your sole reason seems to be "I don't like it". That's fine and that's your right, but it has no bearing in debate.
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I am one person, one opinion, one vote. But many think and feel similarly as I do. I do not presume to speak for anyone else, yet I do speak a concern shared by many millions of americans.

Supreme court justices can ALSO be impeached.

Can a US Supreme Court justice be impeached and removed from office

We will have to wait until 2014 to see if wimpy congress gets any courage by infusion of fresh blood. :)
 
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