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SCOTUS blog: DOMA Unconstitutional

Hey maybe now a Soldier's husband or wife will get the same benefits as another Soldier's husband and wife.
 
Come on, hurry up reading your dissent, lets hear Prop 8 case!!
 
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Here's my prediction/paraphrase of Scalia's dissent: "Big government bad, unless, of course, it's to keep them pesky fags in their place."

From what I understand, it hinges on the Federal Government's rights to determine rules for it's own processes. :shrug:
 
Only if you are a sodomite. For God-fearing people it is a sad day indeed, not unexpected, but sad.

Well I am not a Sodomite, seeing as how that city was destroyed a long time ago.
 
Only if you are a sodomite. For God-fearing people it is a sad day indeed, not unexpected, but sad.


Bull droppings. I know many people of faith who are gay, and many of them do a better job living it than the bible thumpers.
 
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I disagree. I think government should get their hands out of marriage altogether.
Thats odd, you do feel govt should have it hands in a woman's vag.
 
Here's my prediction/paraphrase of Scalia's dissent: "Big government bad, unless, of course, it's to keep them pesky fags in their place."

That is the party line in the GOP. Big government bad....unless it's good for us.
 
Re: DOMA unconstitutional. 5-4 decision.

Clarification: Only part of DOMA has been struck down. In the 11 states that recognize same-sex marriage, it will no longer apply. The example offered by Judge Napolitano on Fox just now was that if you marry in New York but move to Texas, Texas is free not to recognize your marriage...but the federal government no longer is.

Thanks for the clarification.
 
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Let's stop the back and forth about "sodomites" and "bible thumpers" and stick to discussing the topic in a civil and not baiting fashion, shall we?
 
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A Great day to be an American....and a great day for America. America has not always been the nation of Freedom that we proclaim to be....but today we are a step closer. America has been bypassed in the Freedom and Liberty realm by many other countries...but we are catching up!!!
 
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Thanks for the clarification.

You're welcome. The thread title is misleading--DOMA has not been struck down. Re this particular case, and I will admit that I haven't yet read the minority opinion, I'm not sure the Supremes' ruling could be any other than what it was.
 
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Another victory for the perverts and the sodomites. The devil must be having a party.

No...its a victory for Freedom loving Americans who don't want Big Government/Big Brother involved in our private choices. Its a great day to be an American if you believe in Liberty and Justice for all.
 
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Glad to see that this was struck down :D

Now let's see what happens with Prop 8.

They declined prop 8. Gay marriage is legal again in California.
 
It will be interesting if DOMA goes one direction and Prop 8 goes the other, and potentially watching both sides congratulating the court on a correct decision and questioning their legitimacy with another. Hard to get a good handle on any of the rulings with instance analysis since I've not followed either extremely closely. Will be interesting to read some more in depth analysis from both sides shortly
 
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Two points:

1) It's hardly arbitrary. There's a moral issue at stake.

2) The point of allowing courts to declare a law unconstitutional is because legislatures sometimes do things that are unconstitutional.

I think striking it down was the right thing to do.

That's just liberal BS.

Arbitrary was clearly the wrong word but there is no moral issue to it.

The law was struck down for political reasons.

Gay couples weren't prohibited from marrying in the eyes of the federal government because they were discriminated against. They were prohibited from marrying in the eyes of the federal government because they just didn't meet the requirements any more than my single heterosexual, who continues not to. I don't have a problem with the legislature changing the requirements for marriage if there is a compelling reason to do so but to consistently do away with law because liberal groups are just afforded special protections is getting silly and it's just bad policy.
 
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Well boo.

It does mean that when there is another case against one of the other laws that ban SSM it will probably be a Loving type case, because of the DOMA case. Since it was such a broad ruling.

How do you read it so? It looked (admittedly only skimming a sentence or two plus skimming scotusblog) fairly centered on the Federalism angle, which would rather seem to suggest an acceptance on the part of the Court of the States to do as they please.
 
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