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US Supreme Court strikes down voting rights act clause

apdst said:
Because it's one less boogey man that the Libbos need to protect black folks from. Soon as the downtroddin masses don't have anything to fear, the Libbos become useless, along with their agenda.

There are alotta folks in this country that actually believe that the goal of the Left is to actually help minorities; to say it's sad is an understatement.
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The useless agenda the voters selected? That one? But minorities must be dumb, huh? They keep voting for Dem candidates. Go figure. Let's see how many vote for the Paul-Cruz or Rubio-Akin tickets in 2016 ...

good night everyone ...
 
clownboy said:
Agreed, however it does illustrate a behavior by the court that exposes it's overreach in power. The court is willing to allow unconstitutional conditions (pass them off as constitutional) for a temporary time in order to address social issues. That's wrong on so many levels. The court as social engineers...
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But it's an overreach on this but not the Healthcare law?
 
Voting has always been filled with fraud and cheating mostly by the hopelessly ignorant and poor led on by Pied Piper types.
 
windowdressing said:
The useless agenda the voters selected? That one? But minorities must be dumb, huh? They keep voting for Dem candidates. Go figure. Let's see how many vote for the Paul-Cruz or Rubio-Akin tickets in 2016 ...

good night everyone ...
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Reference the boogey mens I mentioned. Fear of global warmibg and Holocust style racial roundups are the only thing the Libbos have going.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
I've often heard right-leaning pundits throw around the term "judicial activism" when a court makes a decision which the pundit believes exceeds the Court's role or authority. I wonder if they'll say the same thing here?
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Exactly...whether you agree with the voting rights act or not....the SCOTUS definitely overstepped their bounds on this one. This is a power that is uniquely left to Congress. I wonder as well whether those "strict constructionists"....and those who decry "activist judges" are going to be shockingly silent on this one.
 
windowdressing said:
The useless agenda the voters selected? That one? But minorities must be dumb, huh? They keep voting for Dem candidates. Go figure. Let's see how many vote for the Paul-Cruz or Rubio-Akin tickets in 2016 ...

good night everyone ...
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I think you don't give minority voters enough credit....that's the problem that Republicans have attracting minority voters. Just running a candidate with a latino sounding name without espousing views that are consistent with the majority of latino voters is likely to garner disappointing results.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
So you are saying that enacting a voter ID law and redistricting a map to discriminate against people of color is positive?
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How does redistricting discriminate against colored folks and where is that being done? Let's slow down with the gloom and doom for just a minute. This is the fear mongering I've talking about.
 
disneydude said:
Exactly...whether you agree with the voting rights act or not....the SCOTUS definitely overstepped their bounds on this one. This is a power that is uniquely left to Congress. I wonder as well whether those "strict constructionists"....and those who decry "activist judges" are going to be shockingly silent on this one.
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Funny how the Libbos don't proclaim the word of the supreme court the gospel, now.
 
apdst said:
Funny how the Libbos don't proclaim the word of the supreme court the gospel, now.
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No...I accept the rulings of the Supreme Court, whether I agree with them or not. The funny thing is how flip floppy conservatives are....calling decisions "Activist" every time they disagree with them. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of your ilk.
 
windowdressing said:
The useless agenda the voters
selected? That one? But minorities must be dumb, huh? They keep voting for Dem candidates. Go figure. Let's see how many vote for the Paul-Cruz or Rubio-Akin tickets in 2016 ...

good night everyone ...
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Many minorities voted for Obama simply because he was a black man.

That IS dumb and RACIST.

The rest of Obama's voters simply didn't vet him or believed everything they read and heard.

That too is DUMB.
 
apdst said:
How does redistricting discriminate against colored folks and where is that being done? Let's slow down with the gloom and doom for just a minute. This is the fear mongering I've talking about.
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Well, for starters, you could read the article I posted which will answer both your questions rather than ignoring it.
 
Texas and other states have started enacting Voter ID laws and that's the primary benefit to this ruling.

It's a step forward in ensuring the legitimacy of our Democracy.
 
apdst said:
Reference the boogey mens I mentioned. Fear of global warmibg and Holocust style racial roundups are the only thing the Libbos have going.
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LOL ... I prefer cons with a sense of humor ... it's a rare thing ...
 
disneydude said:
I think you don't give minority voters enough credit....that's the problem that Republicans have attracting minority voters. Just running a candidate with a latino sounding name without espousing views that are consistent with the majority of latino voters is likely to garner disappointing results.
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Are you sure you wanted to respond to me, or was your post intended to the poster I responded to? If it was me, look at my post again and you'll see that I was being sarcastic and that we agree. For a couple of years now I have been trying to explain to cons that Latinos are not a monolithic group ... in fact, I'd wager that neither Rubio nor Cruz (both Cuban and very conservative) would get more than 30-35% of the Latino vote.
 
windowdressing said:
Are you sure you wanted to respond to me, or was your post intended to the poster I responded to? If it was me, look at my post again and you'll see that I was being sarcastic and that we agree. For a couple of years now I have been trying to explain to cons that Latinos are not a monolithic group ... in fact, I'd wager that neither Rubio nor Cruz (both Cuban and very conservative) would get more than 30-35% of the Latino vote.
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Sorry....I misread your post.....I agree with you...except I think they would get less than that 30-35%
 
Mr. Invisible said:
Well, for starters, you could read the article I posted which will answer both your questions rather than ignoring it.
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No, just summarize it for me and tell me how redistricting will discriminate against me.

Trust me, Mister, no one is going to keep me out of the polling house. Ok? I'm not even worried about that. Why are you? Afraid black folks might see that there really isn't a buncha white, Republican booger bears out there, trying to put them back in chains afterall? It might mean that the ghettos get busted up by black flight out into the world, after they figure out that things aren't as bad as the Libbos have been saying. That would be a political disaster for the Libbos.
 
Fenton said:
Many minorities voted for Obama simply because he was a black man.

That IS dumb and RACIST.

The rest of Obama's voters simply didn't vet him or believed everything they read and heard.

That too is DUMB.
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no doubt there were blacks who voted for Obama simply because he was black, just as there was an equal, or greater, number, who voted against him because he was black, but have you looked at the percentage of blacks who voted for Kerry and Clinton? You may notice a pattern.


Fenton, if you want dumb, look in the mirror my friend ...
 
disneydude said:
No...I accept the rulings of the Supreme Court, whether I agree with them or not. The funny thing is how flip floppy conservatives are....calling decisions "Activist" every time they disagree with them. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of your ilk.
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Let's don't act as if there aren't judges out there that engage in judicial activism...like that clown that made a special trip to the hospital to read the Boston Bomber his rights.
 
windowdressing said:
no doubt there were blacks who voted for Obama simply because he was black, just as there was an equal, or greater, number, who voted against him because he was black, but have you looked at the percentage of blacks who voted for Kerry and Clinton? You may notice a pattern.


Fenton, if you want dumb, look in the mirror my friend ...
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The pattern I notice is the fear mongering coming from the Libbos.
 
disneydude said:
Sorry....I misread your post.....I agree with you...except I think they would get less than that 30-35%
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Romney got, what? 28, 29%. Some Latinos would pull the lever for Rubio or Cruz not knowing anything about them, but liking the idea of a Latino president. We have our share of not well informed voters too. That's why I'm willing to go as high as 35%.
 
apdst said:
No, just summarize it for me and tell me how redistricting will discriminate against me.

Trust me, Mister, no one is going to keep me out of the polling house. Ok? I'm not even worried about that. Why are you? Afraid black folks might see that there really isn't a buncha white, Republican booger bears out there, trying to put them back in chains afterall? It might mean that the ghettos get busted up by black flight out into the world, after they figure out that things aren't as bad as the Libbos have been saying. That would be a political disaster for the Libbos.
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Do your own reading. >:l
 
apdst said:
The pattern I notice is the fear mongering coming from the Libbos.
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You sorta got it, but you could have simply said that blacks vote for the Democratic Party, whether the candidate is black or white. Let's see if Fenton sees the pattern. (Please don't give him a heads up, O.K.?)
 
apdst said:
Let's don't act as if there aren't judges out there that engage in judicial activism...like that clown that made a special trip to the hospital to read the Boston Bomber his rights.
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You're in a lot of pain, aren't you? I hope you're young because this kind of stress and hate is not good for your heart. Relax. The election is over and Obama won. Nothing you can do about that. But you guys are doing really well despite the fact that you're going against the wishes of the majority of people in the country. You got Citizens United and now gutted the Voting Rights Act (so now you can suppress the minority vote more easily), your war against women continues (especially at the state level where you're going after women with a vengeance) ... there's a lot for you to be happy about, at least in the short run (yes, I'm afraid to tell you that in the long run all you're doing is giving yourselves more rope to hang yourselves with) ... so chill my friend ...
 
apdst said:
Do your own point making. :)
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I'll give you the important excerpts.

In the case of the new electoral map, a panel of federal judges found that “substantial surgery” was done to predominantly black districts, cutting off representatives’ offices from their strongest fundraising bases. Meanwhile, white Congress members’ districts were either preserved or “redrawn to include particular country clubs and, in one case, the school belonging to the incumbent’s grandchildren.” The new map was also drawn in secret by white Republican representatives, without notifying their black and Latino peers
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This shows that the electoral map was redrawn as to screw over majority black districts (cutting off the strongest fundraising bases of the reps of those district), while going and either leaving the districts of white reps alone or expanding them and they also did this in secret as well.

The strict photo ID requirement blocked by the DOJ and a federal court would require Texans to show one of a very narrow list of acceptable photo IDs. Expired gun licenses from other states are considered valid, but Social Security cards and student IDs are not. If voters do not have an ID — as many minorities, seniors, and poor people do not — they must travel at their own expense, produce their birth certificate, and in many cases pay a fee to get an ID.
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This change in voter ID laws will make it so that it is more difficult for groups who would vote Democrat as the list of IDs are extremely small and many of those voters who don't have IDs (and many of whom vote for Democrats) must "travel at their own expense, produce their birth certificate, and in many cases pay a fee to get an ID." The fact that many of these people, such as the poor, may not have the money to get travel and pay the fee for the ID will make it harder for them to vote.

This is also going to happen in North Carolina (NC voter ID bill moving ahead with Supreme Court ruling :: WRAL.com) and Mississippi (Voting Rights Act ruling clears path for Mississippi voter ID use in 2014 (updated) | gulflive.com).
 
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