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Costly Obama family trip to Africa under fire amid sequester cuts

People aren't asking Obama to "run around without security", we're asking him not to run around.

Previous presidents have made such concessions during tough financial times to show that they are willing to feel the pinch as well. Not every president has, I am sure, but there is only so long that you can equate Obama's behavior with previous sub par presidents before you rationally accept that Obama is a sub par president.

There's a big difference between rtaionally accepting that Obama is a sub par President (which I do) and buying into every criticism the right throws at him whether it's rational or not.

In fact, I'd say it's more rational to accept on evidence that he's been a poor President based on the facts of his Presidency than it is to brand him a failure because he's a Democrat.
 
There's a big difference between rtaionally accepting that Obama is a sub par President (which I do) and buying into every criticism the right throws at him whether it's rational or not.

In fact, I'd say it's more rational to accept on evidence that he's been a poor President based on the facts of his Presidency than it is to brand him a failure because he's a Democrat.


'Tis a fine straw man.
 
Nope. It was more a fact-finding trip than a string of 18th Century version of photo-ops. Do you think that last Obama bus tour he did did not involve a massive amount of logistical support with them leap-frogging agents and equipment all along the way so that he was never not inside a rolling secure perimeter?

Of course it did. That's the trappings of a modern Presidency. Before Lincoln, there was no
Secret Service because nobody could even fathom the idea that someone would want to kill the President.

The Presidency was a different beast in Washington's day. There was no 24 hour news channel. There were no photographers following you at every step. And Washington went on his trip without, in the words od Spiro Agnew, the Knattering nabobs of negativism" criticzing him for using our precious oxygen.
 
Why is it "crucial"? How will it help America?

Africa is a future economic powerhouse if you don't forge relations with hem China will. Do you want the U.S. to have influence in the African economy or do you want socialist Chinese influences.
 
Africa is a future economic powerhouse if you don't forge relations with hem China will. Do you want the U.S. to have influence in the African economy or do you want socialist Chinese influences.

Nuh-uh. Once we find phantom oil in 'Murica, we gon run the world again, ya heard?
 
Africa is a future economic powerhouse if you don't forge relations with hem China will. Do you want the U.S. to have influence in the African economy or do you want socialist Chinese influences.

LOL. Africa will not be an "economic powerhouse" anytime on our lifetimes. Too much strife and disease. Our influence in their economy will be the critical one--access to medicine
 
LOL. Africa will not be an "economic powerhouse" anytime on our lifetimes. Too much strife and disease. Our influence in their economy will be the critical one--access to medicine

A lot of countries in Africa are experiencing rather large GDP growth and quality of life has risen significantly.
 
A lot of countries in Africa are experiencing rather large GDP growth and quality of life has risen significantly.

When you have nothing, getting a horse doubles your economy.
 
Africa is a future economic powerhouse if you don't forge relations with hem China will. Do you want the U.S. to have influence in the African economy or do you want socialist Chinese influences.

Chinese are investing in Africa via capitalism, not socialism. It has been the Democracies which have supported despotism, and socialism, through their aid programs with few controls in place, which only served to exasperate the problems and lead to further dependency. They are creating the same dependency in the democracies as well.

All that aside, Barrack Obama has little influence anywhere.
 
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