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IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases [W:127]

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LMMFAO I'll risk it. I would bet you've told a lie in your life.

How naive and uninformed your pathetic comment is.

If you have a job P, how about you go and lie to your boss today about some task that was under your control. Let us know how it works out for you.
 
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Pete every item listed is a known fact of the case now.

The IRS admitted to wrong doing in how this was done.
The admin spin for weeks was that this was limited to one unit in Cincinnati. We know now that is false.

If you dont know these things, you should probably listen more and talk less or go read some news sources that are covering the story instead of covering for the White House.

And these groups will bring suit against the US government, not the individuals at the IRS. The President is responsible for the actions of the IRS. Thats why the buck stops there.


What group other than Cincinnati was involved with the targeting of conservative groups? Now if you are going to claim it was Holly Paz, the subject of this thread, you are wrong, She was involved with scrutinizing organizations targeted by the Cincinnati office. This what IRS agents do, they scrutinize claims made by tax payers.

Rep. Darrell Issa has done every possible to making President Obama look guilty by selectively leaking information from the IRS testimony.

How Will Fox Report On Full Transcript Undermining IRS Conspiracy? | Blog | Media Matters for America


For weeks, Fox News has promoted selective clips of interview transcripts leaked by House Republicans to promote their baseless claim that the White House engineered the Internal Revenue Service's improper screening of conservative groups seeking non-profit status.

Such claims were always speculative. The IRS' inspector general has said that while employees used "improper criteria" to scrutinize conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status, that behavior was "not politically biased" and was not driven by the White House. Subsequent testimony leaked by House Republicans has suggested that high-ranking IRS officials in Washington were at first unaware of the improper behavior and stopped it when they learned of it.

The House Oversight Committee's Democrats have now released the full transcript of an interview with another IRS witness which further undermines claims that the White House was at the center of the process. According to the interview subject, a self-described conservative Republican who worked in the IRS' Cincinnati office, an agent he supervised flagged the first Tea Party application that came under scrutiny, asking for guidance on the case.The interview subject denied having had contact with senior IRS officials or the White House about the targeting. According to The Washington Post's Greg Sargent:​
 
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What gets me about this saga, is that in the case the best that Obama has done is to roll out some meaningless resignation from the IRS head that was already resigning, and then going to great pains to hide, or place on paid leave, hell in one case promote one player in this to the HC side....:shock:...Obama is being very clear, in that he is saying to the American people, and his political opponents, "Yeah, I knew about it, and authorized it, F-You!! I'd do it again, because I think it is ok to use my power to attack my political opponents."....

He has become President of the United States and has been reelected. Among the first things he said when meeting with Republicans after the election was "I won". And he did. That's what really mattered.

Now he gets to enjoy the benefits of his win, like playing golf with Tiger Woods, going on a safari to Africa (since cancelled), vacationing in Martha's Vineyard and rubbing elbows with celebrities. A member of the Choom Gang made it to the top and had the last laugh. It seems this that is really what it's all about.

Lincoln noted something about fooling some of the people all of the time, and he does that as good as anyone I've ever seen.
 
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What group other than Cincinnati was involved with the targeting of conservative groups? Now if you are going to claim it was Holly Paz, the subject of this thread, you are wrong, She was involved with scrutinizing organizations targeted by the Cincinnati office. This what IRS agents do, they scrutinize claims made by tax payers.

Rep. Darrell Issa has done every possible to making President Obama look guilty by selectively leaking information from the IRS testimony.

How Will Fox Report On Full Transcript Undermining IRS Conspiracy? | Blog | Media Matters for America


For weeks, Fox News has promoted selective clips of interview transcripts leaked by House Republicans to promote their baseless claim that the White House engineered the Internal Revenue Service's improper screening of conservative groups seeking non-profit status.

Such claims were always speculative. The IRS' inspector general has said that while employees used "improper criteria" to scrutinize conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status, that behavior was "not politically biased" and was not driven by the White House. Subsequent testimony leaked by House Republicans has suggested that high-ranking IRS officials in Washington were at first unaware of the improper behavior and stopped it when they learned of it.

The House Oversight Committee's Democrats have now released the full transcript of an interview with another IRS witness which further undermines claims that the White House was at the center of the process. According to the interview subject, a self-described conservative Republican who worked in the IRS' Cincinnati office, an agent he supervised flagged the first Tea Party application that came under scrutiny, asking for guidance on the case.The interview subject denied having had contact with senior IRS officials or the White House about the targeting. According to The Washington Post's Greg Sargent:​

Pete Im sick and tired of you playing dumb. I KNOW you read sources that already have answers to your questions unless you rely on that POS that you call a source, Media Matters.

Start reading:
Everything you need to know about the IRS scandal in one FAQ

Note:
Some conservatives did, in fact. Rep. Charles Boustany (R-La.), who chairs the House Ways and Means Oversight subcommittee, pressed Douglas Shulman, the Bush-appointed IRS commissioner, on the issue in March 2012. Shulman denied that the agency was targeting conservatives. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) wrote to the agency three times last year on the issue.
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An office in Cincinnati, apparently, which was tasked with evaluating these applications. However, IRS officials in Washington and California were also engaged in scrutinizing conservative groups. President Obama has claimed that he did not know about the issue until this past Friday, when initial news reports surfaced.

Rich information material with links to side stories enlarging on the details of whats known. As I said Im tired of your willful lack of knowledge and tossing up questions Im almost positive you already know the answers to.
 
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Keep up the good work Pete! When you know they are crackers to begin with it's usually not going to take much to drive them completely around the bend.

Calling your sources a POS is an important step to note. It always gets better!
 
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Pete Im sick and tired of you playing dumb. I KNOW you read sources that already have answers to your questions unless you rely on that POS that you call a source, Media Matters.

Start reading:
Everything you need to know about the IRS scandal in one FAQ

Note:

AND


Rich information material with links to side stories enlarging on the details of whats known. As I said Im tired of your willful lack of knowledge and tossing up questions Im almost positive you already know the answers to.

Sorry, OC Media Matters is not POS as you say, you just don't like what it says which is the truth, which is unlike Fox.

Breaking: Full House committee transcripts shed new light on genesis of IRS targeting
 
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There's that Elijah Cummings getting uppity again. Them good ol boys ain't a goin to cotton to that stuff!
Ol massa ain't ready to lie down and die yet!

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Come back when you have an argument.
 
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Im using WaPo as a source Pete. Stop saying irrelevant things.
My last link was from WaPo as well. Which I got from the Media Matters link you refuse to read. Do you watch the BS on Fox?
 
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this morning:

IRS poised to pay $70 million in bonuses - Lauren French - POLITICO.com

In a letter to acting IRS Commissioner Daniel Werfel on Tuesday, Grassley said it violates an April directive from the White House to agencies to halt all bonuses because of budget constraints. Werfel, who worked at the Office of Management and Budget at the time, was the author of those guidelines.

“The IRS always claims to be short on resources,” Grassley said in a statement on Wednesday. “But it appears to have $70 million for union bonuses.”

The bonuses, which were reported earlier Wednesday by The Associated Press, are sure to provide the GOP with an explosive new line of criticism of the agency, which has come fire for targeting conservative groups for extra review as they applied for a tax exemption.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, the top Republican member of the Senate Finance Committee, said “further scrutiny” is required.

“It’s like robbing Peter to pay Paul,” the Utah Republican said. “On the one hand, the IRS claims it’s short on resources, but on the other hand, it appears they’re ready to dole out $70 million in bonuses that looks like a payoff to union workers at a time when we’re drowning in a sea of red ink.”

stay tuned
 
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My last link was from WaPo as well. Which I got from the Media Matters link you refuse to read. Do you watch the BS on Fox?

Pete, do you know what irrelevant means? I dont have TIME to watch any TV, I have free time throughout the day to read and surf some but I dont have time to watch television.

Get off the Fox bull****, its not relevant.
 
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Pete, do you know what irrelevant means? I dont have TIME to watch any TV, I have free time throughout the day to read and surf some but I dont have time to watch television.

Get off the Fox bull****, its not relevant.
What's relevant is whether President Obama is responsible for the IRS screwups or not and so far there is nothing linking him to it. It's relevant that Rep. Darrell Issa releases partial transcripts to make it look as though Obama is guilty. Fox pushes this crap. You baselessly call Media Matters a POS, they are not.
 
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What's relevant is whether President is responsible for the IRS screwups or not and so far there is nothing linking him to it. It's relevant that Rep. Darrell Issa releases partial transcripts to make it look as though Obama is guilty. Fox pushes this crap. You baselessly call Media Matters a POS, they are not.

Media Matters is a politcal shill, blatant and they crap out Dem talking points and little else.

Whether Fox pushes that crap or not, Im not using it as a source so you can stop setting up your strawman of "FOX BAD RAWR!"

Media Matters is not a legitimate source to anyone wanting to get at whats going on, its what you read to feed your cognitive dissonance. Now then if you could return to the topic at hand which clearly is NOT Fox News, that would be super.

I would guess anyone reporting on the investigation would report on Issa's finding and on the full release and not draw conclusions but let readers decide by excerpting passgaes that support both positions.....but Im betting that didnt happen. Because blood in the water sells, Pete.
 
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Pete Im sick and tired of you playing dumb. I KNOW you read sources that already have answers to your questions unless you rely on that POS that you call a source, Media Matters.

Start reading:
Everything you need to know about the IRS scandal in one FAQ

Note:

AND

Rich information material with links to side stories enlarging on the details of whats known. As I said Im tired of your willful lack of knowledge and tossing up questions Im almost positive you already know the answers to.
Looking at your post again: Do realize that targeting and scrutinizing are two separate things. .Targeting should not happen, but scrutinizing is what the IRS does to determine if a group is qualified. So, your conflating the two is not relevant.
 
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Looking at your post again: Do realize that targeting and scrutinizing are two separate things. .Targeting should not happen, but scrutinizing is what the IRS does to determine if a group is qualified. So, your conflating the two is not relevant.

Well they certainly "scrutinized" any conservative leaning grouips for a very long time, including asking them what they read and who their friends were. Too bad they didn't "scrutinize" the borders as closely, or terrorist warnings.
 
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Media Matters is a politcal shill, blatant and they crap out Dem talking points and little else. .

You're a dollar short and a day late. It's been leaked that a conservative republican was behind the entire IRS operation, apparently in conjunction with Issa.

It's looking pretty bad for conservatives.
 
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You're a dollar short and a day late. It's been leaked that a conservative republican was behind the entire IRS operation, apparently in conjunction with Issa.

It's looking pretty bad for conservatives.

I did not think it possible that you could lose more credibility.

I was wrong.
 
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Looking at your post again: Do realize that targeting and scrutinizing are two separate things. .Targeting should not happen, but scrutinizing is what the IRS does to determine if a group is qualified. So, your conflating the two is not relevant.

Except they didnt scrutinize liberal groups. THAT MAKES IT TARGETING. Sheesh.
 
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You're a dollar short and a day late. It's been leaked that a conservative republican was behind the entire IRS operation, apparently in conjunction with Issa.

It's looking pretty bad for conservatives.

And what proof do you have he was a republican? because Cummings says so? why would any one want to believe Cummings? he already lied about what that so called republican said so why should we believe Cummings when he says he is a republican?

this is what Cummings claimed the manerger said

"This Republican manager said there was no White House involvement, no political involvement, none of that. He made the decision doing the best he could to have some kind of consistency."

and this is actually what the manager said

The IRS manager, who was not named by the committee, said, “I am not aware of that,” when asked directly about a political bias or political motivations behind the targeting of conservative groups. And he said he had “no reason to believe” that the White House was involved in the decision to target conservatives.

big difference between “I am not aware of that,”“no reason to believe” and "there was no White House involvement, no political involvement"

so if Cumming will lie about what the so called conservative said he will lie about him being a conservative
 
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And what proof do you have he was a republican? because Cummings says so? why would any one want to believe Cummings? he already lied about what that so called republican said so why should we believe Cummings when he says he is a republican?

this is what Cummings claimed the manerger said

"This Republican manager said there was no White House involvement, no political involvement, none of that. He made the decision doing the best he could to have some kind of consistency."

and this is actually what the manager said

The IRS manager, who was not named by the committee, said, “I am not aware of that,” when asked directly about a political bias or political motivations behind the targeting of conservative groups. And he said he had “no reason to believe” that the White House was involved in the decision to target conservatives.

big difference between “I am not aware of that,”“no reason to believe” and "there was no White House involvement, no political involvement"

so if Cumming will lie about what the so called conservative said he will lie about him being a conservative

Yeah! That must be it, Cummings is lying!

This must be getting embarrassing for some people now. Besides being a liar he's uppity too!
 
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Yeah! That must be it, Cummings is lying!

This must be getting embarrassing for some people now. Besides being a liar he's uppity too!

do you have a name of the so called republican? what proof do you have other then the word of a known liar
 
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