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IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases [W:127]

Re: IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases

The Prof said:
so many words, so few facts

irs internal review, independent of tigta: "significant problems," "substantial bias"

Internal IRS probe cited same problems with approach to conservative groups in May 2012 - The Washington Post

hence, the criminal probe

nancy marks is a racist

LOL!
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I've made my point and so maybe it's time I left you in your own little fantasy world to stew in your own juices for a while. If the situation applies with any Obama haters out there, it's worth saying that there are self help groups in existence who work with people to help them get over their racist tendencies. Granted, most die and rot away without ever changing but some do make it back from the edge.
 
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to help them get over their racist tendencies
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LOL!

tell it to jonathan karl
 
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Grant said:
"On Monday, the new acting IRS commissioner Daniel Werfel acknowledged that the agency betrayed the public trust when, for about 18 months beginning in 2010, it targeted conservative groups applying for status as "social welfare" organizations".

There is no doubt what happened. None.

Conservative leaders detail IRS harassment - CBS News
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"Targeted" It's always "targeted", because that sounds so much more dramatic than "made the groups fill out forms and did a thorough investigation of, just like the law requires it to".
 
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j-mac said:
Why, nothing at all if you support the authoritarian targeting of political opponents in an election cycle, then lying about your involvement when found out...Heh, heh....Look who I am telling, of course that is the order of the day for progressives....ACORN, Soros, S.O.S. project, the dead peoples vote, Ballots in trunks....etc....Now, revealed bringing the power, and force of the federal government to bear against your political opponents, progressives never fail to make the jaw drop as to how far they go, or how dishonest they will be about what they do.
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The fact that only conservative groups were targeted for additional.scrutiny is particularly damning.

Oh wait....
 
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Paschendale said:
"Targeted" It's always "targeted", because that sounds so much more dramatic than "made the groups fill out forms and did a thorough investigation of, just like the law requires it to".
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Of course...because then you can't make ridiculous comparisons...."We had to fill out an additional form and that's similar treatment that supporters of the NAACP in the 1950's had to deal with".
 
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A tempest in a tea pot! A political storm that will be gone with the wind. As have all the other bagger's pet issues being rode til they fall off the rails.

But keep it alive by all means. The more time they spend spinning their wheels over this nonsense, the more the discredit themselves and the less time they have to form some kind of fascist united front.

On the upside, this must be giving John McCain new hope! He knows it's either him and his ilk or the ilk of the baggers in the end!
 
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It's always "targeted"
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not always

Inspector General: IRS' Ineffective Management Allowed Tea Party Targeting - HuffPo

The much-anticipated report notes that the IRS suffered from "ineffective management" which allowed for agency officials to discriminate against Tea Party groups, often resulting in "substantial delays" in process applications and "unnecessary" information requests.
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meanwhile, 501c4 ofa, which the nyt describes as "an extension of the administration, stocked with alumni of the obama white house and campaign teams and devoted solely to the president's agenda," "whose goal is to harness its resources in support of obama's second term priorities," "not unlike the super pacs obama once deplored," and whose donors who hit the half mil threshold get that exciting invite to those action packed white house quarterly meetings, is busy

nyt, february: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/23/u...?pagewanted=1&#59&ref=politics&#59;_r=0&_r=1&

politico today: OFA to launch Obamacare campaign - Katie Glueck - POLITICO.com
 
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Paschendale said:
"Targeted" It's always "targeted", because that sounds so much more dramatic than "made the groups fill out forms and did a thorough investigation of, just like the law requires it to".
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Very true, the fact is that the IRS didn't have the personnel to scrutinize all the groups requesting non profit status, so they created list of key words to assist them.
 
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pbrauer said:
Very true, the fact is that the IRS didn't have the personnel to scrutinize all the groups requesting non profit status, so they created list of key words to assist them.
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And it got the desired results. It zeroed in on the law breakers. And the rabid right just can't get that through their vacant skulls so they have to continue to ride on a dead horse. But not for long because it's starting to stink even too much for their noses.
 
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not for long
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LOL!

without links...

why even goebbels himself wouldn't know what he was talking about

friday: Congressional investigators vow to expand IRS probe | The Daily Caller

“There are real problems there,” said Democratic Sen. Max Baucus, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, who was also present at the event. “It’s tough to manage them all and it’s not managed well and there does need to be significant restructuring in the IRS.” Baucus’ Finance Committee is currently leading the Senate’s investigation of the IRS scandal.

Both lawmakers vowed that their respective investigations will last for months.
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max baucus---choo choo!
 
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Michael66 said:
If in fact the targeting was done against the so-called opponents of the admin., the baggers, then the reason for that is that they were the law breakers. And no matter how much the rabid right wiggles and dances, the eventual outcome will go to substantiate that , and the last few drops will go down your pants.
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So it's okay for the administration to violate the Constitution because they knew, without any evidence whatsoever, that the political opponents of the President were violating the law. How very Orwellian.
 
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pbrauer said:
There has been nothing that connects this to the Obama administration. NOTHING!
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The IRS has openly admitted that they were involved in targeting Conservative groups for 18 months, which included the last Presidential election. It is not yet been proven, or claimed, that anyone in the Obama White House was directly involved.

However, you should read this. Every American and every interested party should read it. It is by Pulitzer Prize winning author George Will, who is very well respected by both sides and not given to rabble-rousing.

Scowling Face of the State
 
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The Prof said:
not always

Inspector General: IRS' Ineffective Management Allowed Tea Party Targeting - HuffPo



meanwhile, 501c4 ofa, which the nyt describes as "an extension of the administration, stocked with alumni of the obama white house and campaign teams and devoted solely to the president's agenda," "whose goal is to harness its resources in support of obama's second term priorities," "not unlike the super pacs obama once deplored," and whose donors who hit the half mil threshold get that exciting invite to those action packed white house quarterly meetings, is busy

nyt, february: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/23/u...?pagewanted=1&#59&ref=politics&#59;_r=0&_r=1&

politico today: OFA to launch Obamacare campaign - Katie Glueck - POLITICO.com
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From your first link.

The much-anticipated report notes that the IRS suffered from "ineffective management" which allowed for agency officials to discriminate against Tea Party groups, often resulting in "substantial delays" in process applications and "unnecessary" information requests.
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It was dishonest and biased management which was the problem. They were quite effective.
 
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Paschendale said:
"Targeted" It's always "targeted", because that sounds so much more dramatic than "made the groups fill out forms and did a thorough investigation of, just like the law requires it to".
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It was the word used by the acting IRS director Daniel Werfel. If you feel his choice of words was wrong then so be it, but 'targeted' seems to be the appropriate word here because that's what they did.
 
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Grant said:
The IRS has openly admitted that they were involved in targeting Conservative groups for 18 months, which included the last Presidential election. It is not yet been proven, or claimed, that anyone in the Obama White House was directly involved.

However, you should read this. Every American and every interested party should read it. It is by Pulitzer Prize winning author George Will, who is very well respected by both sides and not given to rabble-rousing.

Scowling Face of the State
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Yeah, so he wants blame progressives for the problems? Sorry, I'm not buying his line on this one.
 
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pbrauer said:
Yeah, so he wants blame progressives for the problems? Sorry, I'm not buying his line on this one.
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Since when has George Will had the respect of the left?
 
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Michael66 said:
Since when has George Will had the respect of the left?
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Never, but occasionally he bashes the Republicans.
 
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pbrauer said:
Never, but occasionally he bashes the Republicans.
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You're right, but the repub party is so divided that even Rove bashes some factions of it. And that's the way it needs to stay too. Sarah Palin for president! LOL.

And Rand Paul, the little racist from tucky for vp!
Yup, they're really starting to get it together now!
 
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trfjr said:
IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases


what was it liar Cummings said again?
"Washington's involvement in the IRS scandal were "unsubstantiated,"

What was it that Issa said?
"Washington was involved"

by the way Holly Paz is a registered Democrat who donated $4,000 to the Obama campaign in 2008
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I've been wondering about this....

“Another week, another leak from Chairman [Darrell] Issa of cherry-picked excerpts that show no White House involvement whatsoever in the identification and screening of these cases,” said Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings, the top Democrat on the Oversight panel, in a statement to POLITICO.

Cummings spent the past week battling committee Chairman Darrell Issa, accusing the California Republican of cherry picking bits and pieces of transcripts for release to support his argument.

Cummings is threatening to release the transcripts of other interviews conducted by the committee. He’s especially eager to make public an interview with a self-identified conservative IRS manager in Cincinnati who said employees there began scrutinizing tea party tax-exempt applications.

Issa has warned Cummings that a broad release of interview transcripts has the potential to hobble the committee’s probe, but Cummings contends that it’s “more reckless to leak cherry-picked excerpts that omit key details and hide the full truth.”

The transcripts — and the fact that they were chosen for release — is a clear sign that congressional staffers are turning their sights to Paz.

Hill focuses on D.C. IRS official Holly Paz - POLITICO.com Print View
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pbrauer said:
Yeah, so he wants blame progressives for the problems? Sorry, I'm not buying his line on this one.
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No, and all the evidence in the world won't convince, even when the leadership admits to its failures. It has stopped being political and has become religious. It's the Jim Jones syndrome.
 
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pbrauer said:
I've been wondering about this....

“Another week, another leak from Chairman [Darrell] Issa of cherry-picked excerpts that show no White House involvement whatsoever in the identification and screening of these cases,” said Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings, the top Democrat on the Oversight panel, in a statement to POLITICO.

Cummings spent the past week battling committee Chairman Darrell Issa, accusing the California Republican of cherry picking bits and pieces of transcripts for release to support his argument.

Cummings is threatening to release the transcripts of other interviews conducted by the committee. He’s especially eager to make public an interview with a self-identified conservative IRS manager in Cincinnati who said employees there began scrutinizing tea party tax-exempt applications.

Issa has warned Cummings that a broad release of interview transcripts has the potential to hobble the committee’s probe, but Cummings contends that it’s “more reckless to leak cherry-picked excerpts that omit key details and hide the full truth.”

The transcripts — and the fact that they were chosen for release — is a clear sign that congressional staffers are turning their sights to Paz.

Hill focuses on D.C. IRS official Holly Paz - POLITICO.com Print View
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What is your point here?
 
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pbrauer said:
I've been wondering about this....

“Another week, another leak from Chairman [Darrell] Issa of cherry-picked excerpts that show no White House involvement whatsoever in the identification and screening of these cases,” said Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings, the top Democrat on the Oversight panel, in a statement to POLITICO.

Cummings spent the past week battling committee Chairman Darrell Issa, accusing the California Republican of cherry picking bits and pieces of transcripts for release to support his argument.

Cummings is threatening to release the transcripts of other interviews conducted by the committee. He’s especially eager to make public an interview with a self-identified conservative IRS manager in Cincinnati who said employees there began scrutinizing tea party tax-exempt applications.

Issa has warned Cummings that a broad release of interview transcripts has the potential to hobble the committee’s probe, but Cummings contends that it’s “more reckless to leak cherry-picked excerpts that omit key details and hide the full truth.”

The transcripts — and the fact that they were chosen for release — is a clear sign that congressional staffers are turning their sights to Paz.

Hill focuses on D.C. IRS official Holly Paz - POLITICO.com Print View
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Cummings is a bought-and-paid-for Obama sycophant. Ex-Chairman of the CBC, he doesn't give two craps about the truth.

Look at the lengths that the Dems and the Press went for Valerie Plame, where no original crime was committed. None.

Hypocrite bastards <spit>
 
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Moon said:
It shows the IRS was deliberately targeting political opponents of the current administration. Pretty much the kind of thing the 1st amendment is supposed to protect us from.
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Yeah, why was the Republican operative in the Cincinnati office focusing on tea bagger organizations? Either he wanted to foment a fake scandal or he was trying to protect GOP electoral hopes from tea party lunacy. Either way, it looks bad for the GOP.
 
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