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Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

This could make for the worst Monday in history. Its Monday, have 5 days of work ahead of me, and...oh yeah...I'm a second class citizen. Anxiously awaiting...

here's hoping for the best. it's a clear cut equal protection issue. let's hope that they decide that way.

as a heterosexual, i can marry any girl i fall for if i so choose. homosexuals should have the same ability to marry someone of their own sex who they fall in love with.
 
as a heterosexual, i can marry any girl i fall for if i so choose.
You never had any such right. You don't today, you won't ever. There are always restrictions.

Besides, your feelings towards anyone is non of the government's buisness unles you intend to harm them.
 
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You never had any such right. You don't today, you won't ever. There are always restrictions.

Besides, your feelings toward s anyone is non of the government's buisness unles you intend to harm them.

come on Jerry ... you got his point ... every state will recognize his marriage, but not if he was marrying another guy, right?
 
come on Jerry ... you got his point ... every state will recognize his marriage, but not if he was marrying another guy, right?
Even after SSM is legal he still will not be able to marry just whomever he wants to, so his point is false either way.

Noone has that right. Noone ever did. Noone ever will.
 
Since the Declaration of Independence is part of our Organic Law, and recognizes the right of all men to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, the Supreme Court must rule in support of same sex marriage.
 
Even after SSM is legal he still will not be able to marry just whomever he wants to, so his point is false either way.

Noone has that right. Noone ever did. Noone ever will.


O.K. Jerry ... I'll just back out of here quietly ... easy now ...
 
You never had any such right. You don't today, you won't ever. There are always restrictions.

sure i do. i could go out tonight, meet a single girl, marry her Monday, divorce her, and do the same thing all over again. every state in the union would recognize the marriage(s).

my gay friends? they could love each other for life and still not be able to get hitched, unless they moved to a state that would recognize it. that's not equal protection.
 
my gay friends? they could love each other for life and still not be able to get hitched, unless they moved to a state that would recognize it. that's not equal protection.

Gays are welcome to pledge their love to each other all they want, publicly or privately. If they want the same rights as a married heterosexual couple, they can get civil unions. They can refer to themselves as "married" all they want, and others can refer to them that way too. They just don't have the legal label of being "married". Yes, it's not the exact same type of legal status as a heterosexual marriage. But then, it's also not the exact same type of relationship as a heterosexual marriage.
 
Gays are welcome to pledge their love to each other all they want, publicly or privately. If they want the same rights as a married heterosexual couple, they can get civil unions. They can refer to themselves as "married" all they want, and others can refer to them that way too. They just don't have the legal label of being "married". Yes, it's not the exact same type of legal status as a heterosexual marriage. But then, it's also not the exact same type of relationship as a heterosexual marriage.

it is, though. SCOTUS has already tossed separate but equal.

Separate but equal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I agree, it should be up to the states. They are the legal entities that recognize marriages.

This won't work. There are too many states that will not accommodate these sodomites evil desires.
 
sure i do. i could go out tonight, meet a single girl, marry her Monday, divorce her, and do the same thing all over again. every state in the union would recognize the marriage(s).
Your adding on restrictions. That's what I'm talking about. You cannot go out and marry just whomever you want. She has to be of age, she has to be consenting, she has to be single, she cannot be a close blood relative, she has to be a US citizen unless you want a mountain of paperwork, you have to take a blood test and share the results in certain states, etc, etc. You cannot marry just whomever you want. You never could, you can't today, you never will be able to. Thanks for proving my point.
 
Your adding on restrictions. That's what I'm talking about. You cannot go out and marry just whomever you want. She has to be of age, she has to be consenting, she has to be single, she cannot be a close blood relative, she has to be a US citizen unless you want a mountain of paperwork, you have to take a blood test and share the results in certain states, etc, etc. You cannot marry just whomever you want. You never could, you can't today, you never will be able to. Thanks for proving my point.

i can marry any consenting adult female who is unmarried. if i were gay, i could not marry any consenting adult male who is unmarried. that isn't equal protection under the law.
 
Gays are welcome to pledge their love to each other all they want, publicly or privately. If they want the same rights as a married heterosexual couple, they can get civil unions. They can refer to themselves as "married" all they want, and others can refer to them that way too. They just don't have the legal label of being "married". Yes, it's not the exact same type of legal status as a heterosexual marriage. But then, it's also not the exact same type of relationship as a heterosexual marriage.

Other than the sexes of the individuals, please tell us how a homosexual relationship differs from a heterosexual one.
 
Gay marriage is NOT illegal - IN ANY STATE - reason? because there are no laws against gay marriage.

Back in the good old days, sodomy was illegal in Texas. This changed in 2003, thanks to the SC. Oh, how I long for the past sometimes.

I imagine the SC will strike down the DOMA and allow our country to move farther toward destruction.
 
i can marry any consenting adult female who is unmarried.
You changed your statement so as to add qualifiers. That's not your original claim, the claim I took issue with. This is what you said:
as a heterosexual, i can marry any girl i fall for if i so choose.
As you admit, no you cannot marry just whomever you feel in love with. There are restrictions everyone has to comply with.

if i were gay, i could not marry any consenting adult male who is unmarried. that isn't equal protection under the law.
Yes it is, because everyone is held by the same rule and the law has a long history of treating the sexes differently. Everyone has the all the same allowances and restrictions as everyone else, and that will not change with the legalization of SSM.
 
Back in the good old days, sodomy was illegal in Texas. This changed in 2003, thanks to the SC. Oh, how I long for the past sometimes.

Do you know what the definition of sodomy is? Anything other than penile-vaginal sex. So, if you have ever had oral sex or any type of manual stimulation, you have committed sodomy.

I imagine the SC will strike down the DOMA and allow our country to move farther toward destruction.

I imagine the SC will strike down DOMA, supporting the states, and lead us further towards enlightenment.
 
You changed your statement so as to add qualifiers. That's not your original claim, the claim I took issue with. This is what you said:
As you admit, no you cannot marry just whomever you feel in love with. There are restrictions everyone has to comply with.

the only females i can't marry are those who are too young to consent or those who are already married. those who are married could divorce and then marry me. in many states, a homosexual cannot marry any eligible person of the same sex. that isn't equal protection.


Yes it is, because everyone is held by the same rule and the law has a long history of treating the sexes differently. Everyone has the all the same allowances and restrictions as everyone else, and that will not change with the legalization of SSM.

this is incorrect. under current law in most states, a homosexual cannot marry a consenting adult of the same sex. a heterosexual can. this is not equal protection.
 
Back in the good old days, sodomy was illegal in Texas. This changed in 2003, thanks to the SC. Oh, how I long for the past sometimes.

I imagine the SC will strike down the DOMA and allow our country to move farther toward destruction.

you are also opposed to oral sex between a man and a woman? A man and a woman shouldn't be able to enjoy oral sex in the privacy of their home? Anything else you don't want straight couples not to do because you have hang-ups about sex?
 
the only females i can't marry are those who are too young to consent or those who are already married. those who are married could divorce and then marry me. in many states, a homosexual cannot marry any eligible person of the same sex. that isn't equal protection.
Legalizing marriage only for one group isn't equal protection either. Equality means EVERYONE, not just your pet group. EVERYONE.

under current law in most states, a homosexual cannot marry a consenting adult of the same sex. a heterosexual can.
Quote an existing state law that allows heterosexuals to marry the same sex. Make sure your link works because I'll be checking your quote.
 
Legalizing marriage only for one group isn't equal protection either. Equality means EVERYONE, not just your pet group. EVERYONE.


Quote the state law that allows heterosexuals to marry the same sex.

I think heterosexuals should be allowed to marry people of the same sex, too. :2razz:
 
Legalizing marriage only for one group isn't equal protection either. Equality means EVERYONE, not just your pet group. EVERYONE.


Quote the state law that allows heterosexuals to marry the same sex.

a heterosexual can marry a consenting adult of the opposite sex. a homosexual cannot marry a consenting adult of the same sex. that is not equal protection under the law.
 
a heterosexual can marry a consenting adult of the opposite sex. a homosexual cannot marry a consenting adult of the same sex. that is not equal protection under the law.
That's not what you said. This is what you said:
this is incorrect. under current law in most states, a homosexual cannot marry a consenting adult of the same sex. a heterosexual can. this is not equal protection.
Give your evidence for that claim. Quote a state law allowing heterosexuals to marry the same sex.

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a heterosexual can marry a consenting adult of the opposite sex. a homosexual cannot marry a consenting adult of the same sex. that is not equal protection under the law.
Yes it is. No one can otherwise marry the same-sex, and everyone can otherwise marry the opposite sex. Who proffers what sexually is frankly not my business as I'm not in their bedroom. Maybe you proffer same-sex, maybe bisexual, maybe some BSDM or get kinky in any number of ways....that's non of my business and certainly not the State's business.

If you want the State's blessing then you need to be serving a "compelling State interest", which means raising children and/or fostering a stable and healthy long term relationship. Rather or not you like a penis in your bottom is totally irrelevant.
 
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Do you know what the definition of sodomy is? Anything other than penile-vaginal sex. So, if you have ever had oral sex or any type of manual stimulation, you have committed sodomy.

This is not true.

The KJV bible was translated into English in 1611. One of the earliest English dictionaries was Noah Webster's American Dictionary of the English Language, written in 1828. The definition according the Webster is:

Sodomy -- A crime against nature.


Then there is the Webster's New Universal Unabridged Dictionary, which was copy-written in 1983, which states:

Sodomy -- any sexual intercourse regarded as abnormal, as between persons of the same sex, especially males, or between a person an an animal.
 
you are also opposed to oral sex between a man and a woman? A man and a woman shouldn't be able to enjoy oral sex in the privacy of their home? Anything else you don't want straight couples not to do because you have hang-ups about sex?

I don't accept sodomite definitions, or Wikipedia definitions.
 
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