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Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

Mr.Nick said:
Really???

You do realize marriage is nothing more than a civil contract right?
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Yep. But marriage is recognized by the government. If you recognize heterosexuals in thus way, you need to recognize homosexuals in this way.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Because "marriage" is religious in nature and "civil union" is legal talk.
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Except it's not. Marriage is a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law. Now who is redefining words?

Mr.Nick said:
Dude seriously??

For the love of Whole Language...

Yeah guess what? I don't speak Mexican either.
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Well, there's no language called "Mexican" so there's that. Nice, big, fat fail on your part.
 
I'm done with this thread...

If there was a good legal argument for gay marriage then gay marriage would have been amended into the constitution.

The issue is NOT a matter of opinion but rather a matter of law and how our government passes legislation.

It's really that simple...
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
Except it's not. Marriage is a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law. Now who is redefining words?



Well, there's no language called "Mexican" so there's that. Nice, big, fat fail on your part.
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Then what do them thar darn mexicans speak?
 
shlunka said:
Then what do them thar darn mexicans speak?
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Mr.Nick said:
Ok Margaret Sanger....

And I'm the unreasonable one in this "debate?"

Sure, why not wipe out gays next using eugenics? See how that works?
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The word eugenics is about cleaning up the gene pool.

Assholes perverted it to their racist ends.

What is wrong with offering those who carry genetic monsters compensation for being sterilized?

As long as nobody is forcing them.

And we don't know the origin of homosexuality, nor can it be clearly defined as a "defect".

It only harms quality of life to the extent other people persecute them for it.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
Except it's not. Marriage is a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law. Now who is redefining words?



Well, there's no language called "Mexican" so there's that. Nice, big, fat fail on your part.
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You're defining words - just like I said I couldn't speak "Mexican" (apparently that went over your head).
 
Mr.Nick said:
Yes, I certainly have..... You progressives do it to me EVERYDAY.... If you didn't the status quo on ALL applications for everything and anything wouldn't be, race, age and sometimes religion and sexuality....

Hell, 5-years ago I had to say I was a ****ing Mexican to get a contract on a job and the only reason why I got away with it is because I'm a dark skinned Sicilian and could pass given my sir name and my "aesthetics" - furthermore that wasn't my idea it was the companies idea - they wanted me and I could pass for a Mexican. This company was TOLD they had to hire minorities - not the BEST MAN FOR THE JOB BUT MINORITIES IN GENERAL...

How is that not blatant discrimination?

How about these ****ing progressives that are so filled with hate that they will ATTEMPT to attack me when I'm out rallying in support of the Tea Party?

Don't tell me about discrimination because I get it every ****ing day from people who know my position on issues and know who I am...
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First off, I'm a libertarian.

Secondly. Grow the hell up. You're a white dude with a roof over your head, the ability to provide in-demand skilled work and live in a society where the majority of people think, act and talk like you. Blatant discrimination is when you can't even get a job. Do you know what the greatest thing about your situation is? Despite the best efforts of whatever government was trying to provide a Hispanic person a job (Hispanic unemployment is 9.6%, white unemployment is 6.8%), the company STILL hired a white guy. They STILL hired you. The Mexican did not get the job, YOU did.
 
Mr.Nick said:
You're defining words - just like I said I couldn't speak "Mexican" (apparently that went over your head).
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I am defining words, not re-defining words to suit my purpose. And perhaps you were making a joke, but I somehow doubt it. I'm thinking you backed out.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Dude seriously??

For the love of Whole Language...

Yeah guess what? I don't speak Mexican either.
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So I can't get married by a justice of the peace, with no religious ceremony at all?
 
What if...? said:
The word eugenics is about cleaning up the gene pool.

Assholes perverted it to their racist ends.

What is wrong with offering those who carry genetic monsters compensation for being sterilized?

As long as nobody is forcing them.

And we don't know the origin of homosexuality, nor can it be clearly defined as a "defect".

It only harms quality of life to the extent other people persecute them for it.
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Define genetic monsters??

Isn't that a matter of opinion? what is a monster?

See you don't understand that...... You're in no ****ing position to define what a "genetic monster" is my progressive "tolerant" friend..... Do you realize that?
 
What if...? said:
So I can't get married by a justice of the peace, with no religious ceremony at all?
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You can call it whatever you want but it would only be marriage if it was recognized by your religion... Other than that it would be a civil union.
 
Mr.Nick said:
You can call it whatever you want but it would only be marriage if it was recognized by your religion... Other than that it would be a civil union.
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Fir the record, there are Christian churches who would recognize them.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Define genetic monsters??

Isn't that a matter of opinion? what is a monster?

See you don't understand that...... You're in no ****ing position to define what a "genetic monster" is my progressive "tolerant" friend..... Do you realize that?
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Of course you can. Don't be absurd.

I imagine worse ones would have a higher compensation rate.

You know, the ones that leave their victims with crippling debilitation and greatly shortened lives.

I can't believe you're taking this.position while actively advocating discrimination based on sexual orientation. Can you not see the hypocracy.

What position are you in to decide who can marry who?
 
Mr.Nick said:
I'm done with this thread...

If there was a good legal argument for gay marriage then gay marriage would have been amended into the constitution.

The issue is NOT a matter of opinion but rather a matter of law and how our government passes legislation.

It's really that simple...
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In illogical land maybe. Marriage isn't written in the constitution, but equal protection is.
 
Mr.Nick said:
You can call it whatever you want but it would only be marriage if it was recognized by your religion... Other than that it would be a civil union.
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Yet they issue a Marriage License, not a Civil Union License.

You should let the entire country know they are ****ing up.
 
brothern said:
First off, I'm a libertarian.

Secondly. Grow the hell up. You're a white dude with a roof over your head, the ability to provide in-demand skilled work and live in a society where the majority of people think, act and talk like you. Blatant discrimination is when you can't even get a job. Do you know what the greatest thing about your situation is? Despite the best efforts of whatever government was trying to provide a Hispanic person a job (Hispanic unemployment is 9.6%, white unemployment is 6.8%), the company STILL hired a white guy. They STILL hired you. The Mexican did not get the job, YOU did.
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You don't know me..... You know nothing about me or my background to even attempt to pretend you do....

I could care less if you think you're a libertarian - if you were a real libertarian you wouldn't even be arguing with me.
 
What if...? said:
Yet they issue a Marriage License, not a Civil Union License.

You should let the entire country know they are ****ing up.
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I didn't know the Federal government of the United States of America was responsible for defining words.... When did we steal that authority?
 
Boo Radley said:
That trick doesn't fly. If you could marry the same sex but not the opposite, you'd understand better. But being silly doesn't help you.
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Can't marry someone who's already married, either.
 
Mr.Nick said:
You don't know me..... You know nothing about me or my background to even attempt to pretend you do....

I could care less if you think you're a libertarian - if you were a real libertarian you wouldn't even be arguing with me.
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Funny. That's what most gay people would argue.

... but then you go ahead and deny them the ability to get married.
 
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