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Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

tech30528 said:
That's all fine and good, but in reality Christians are marginalized regularly in this country while Muslims are feared and held as sacred. A law that is not enforced is useless.
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I can emphasize with you. Your religious freedoms to exclude gays, because you disrespectfully view them as immoral, perverted and hell-bound, is being infringed upon.

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brothern said:
Mr. Nick is not an idiot. He knows full well how discrimination is directly written into our States' constitutions. Repeating that back to him ("proving it") is not going to advance the conversation in anyway.
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You mean like racial quotas and "protected classes?" - discrimination like that?

You know who is discriminated against consistently and its absolutely politically correct to do so?? straight white male Christians - they're the punching bag of society...
 
brothern said:
I can emphasize with you. Your religious freedoms to exclude gays, because you disrespectfully view them as immoral, perverted and hell-bound, is being infringed upon.

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False assumption. We have several gay people in our church. Nice people, don't have a problem with them. Their morality is not my issue and it is not my place to judge them.

What, doesn't fit your stereotype of Christians? How about that, not all conservatives hate gay people after all.
 
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brothern said:
I can emphasize with you. Your religious freedoms to exclude gays, because you disrespectfully view them as immoral, perverted and hell-bound, is being infringed upon.

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The cartoon accompanying your post could qualify as hate speech. That's the problem with criminalizing thoughts.:mrgreen:
 
Mr.Nick said:
I did and I will however, if you're not satisfied with that analogy then who are you to tell someone they cant marry their sister, cousin or marry multiple willing individuals??
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Birth defects due to consanquinity for the first two.

And I personally don't have a problem with plural marriages of any makeup, as long as they are consensual.

What do you have against freedom to live ones life as they see fit as long as it doesn't harm you?
 
Jack Hays said:
The cartoon accompanying your post could qualify as hate speech. That's the problem with criminalizing thoughts.:mrgreen:
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Just another example of how we're all being discriminated against - "hate speech."

I love how people believe they can define how others feel or their intent - as if hating is wrong in the first place...
 
Jack Hays said:
The cartoon accompanying your post could qualify as hate speech. That's the problem with criminalizing thoughts.:mrgreen:
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Exactly the point. Gay supporters complain of being marginalized, but doing the same to Christians is perfectly acceptable. I for one have had enough of it.
 
What if...? said:
Birth defects due to consanquinity for the first two.

And I personally don't have a problem with plural marriages of any makeup, as long as they are consensual.

What do you have against freedom to live ones life as they see fit as long as it doesn't harm you?
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So, you cant say birth defects are certain and even if they were birth defects CERTAINLY wouldn't be an argument against marriage considering married people a) don't have to have kids and b) many people with "birth defects" get married and have children and pass those genes onto their children. "Little people" do all the time - what are you going to do next? claim "little people" shouldn't procreate?
 
Mr.Nick said:
You mean like racial quotas and "protected classes?" - discrimination like that? You know who is discriminated against consistently and its absolutely politically correct to do so?? straight white male Christians - they're the punching bag of society...
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The problem with being a straight white Christian male is that you are never once given the chance of introspection. You have never had someone drive past you in the middle of the night, throw garbage at you and call you a faggot. You've never had men leer or grope at you, or been refused service to a restaurant or store, have people glare at you for dressing in religious garb. I can't even make fun of straight white Christian males - no derogatory term even exists for them. If you can't understand how blessed you are for being born as such -- there's no one that can help you.
 
tech30528 said:
False assumption. We have several gay people in our church. Nice people, don't have a problem with them. Their morality is not my issue and it is not my place to judge them.

What, doesn't fit your stereotype of Christians? How about that, not all conservatives hate gay people after all.
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I work for the Republican Party and used to be an Evangelical Christian, now turned atheist. I know the type. It's the complete inability to understand empathy.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
I would have married her whether or not there was a benefit. This is what most don't understand. Why do you think the government has any business bestowing benefits for acting in any manner?
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So you advocate NO marriage "rights"?
 
brothern said:
The problem with being a straight white Christian male is that you are never once given the chance of introspection. You have never had someone drive past you in the middle of the night, throw garbage at you and call you a faggot. You've never had men leer or grope at you, or been refused service to a restaurant or store, have people glare at you for dressing in religious garb. I can't even make fun of straight white Christian males - no derogatory term even exists for them. If you can't understand how blessed you are for being born as such -- there's no one that can help you.
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Yes, I certainly have..... You progressives do it to me EVERYDAY.... If you didn't the status quo on ALL applications for everything and anything wouldn't be, race, age and sometimes religion and sexuality....

Hell, 5-years ago I had to say I was a ****ing Mexican to get a contract on a job and the only reason why I got away with it is because I'm a dark skinned Sicilian and could pass given my sir name and my "aesthetics" - furthermore that wasn't my idea it was the companies idea - they wanted me and I could pass for a Mexican. This company was TOLD they had to hire minorities - not the BEST MAN FOR THE JOB BUT MINORITIES IN GENERAL...

How is that not blatant discrimination?

How about these ****ing progressives that are so filled with hate that they will ATTEMPT to attack me when I'm out rallying in support of the Tea Party?

Don't tell me about discrimination because I get it every ****ing day from people who know my position on issues and know who I am...
 
tech30528 said:
The Constitution is not a document that defines the world. To me marriage means one man and one woman. To you it means something different. You seem to think you have the right to force me to think the way you do.nIt's not going to happen.
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THINK what you want.

Just stay out of OTHER peoples business.
 
Mr.Nick said:
So, you cant say birth defects are certain and even if they were birth defects CERTAINLY wouldn't be an argument against marriage considering married people a) don't have to have kids and b) many people with "birth defects" get married and have children and pass those genes onto their children. "Little people" do all the time - what are you going to do next? claim "little people" shouldn't procreate?
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I actually think a little voluntary, incentivised eugenics would be a great idea.
 
What if...? said:
I actually think a little voluntary, incentivised eugenics would be a great idea.
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Ok Margaret Sanger....

And I'm the unreasonable one in this "debate?"

Sure, why not wipe out gays next using eugenics? See how that works?
 
Mr.Nick said:
Who the hell are you to say two loving and willing people cant marry???

Sounds familiar to your argument right?

I suppose it is a different story when you have an opinion on marriage?
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Not at all. Your cherry picking. I included without just cause. It's a legal term.
 
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