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FEMA denies funds to West, TX, following plant explosion

Article title is a bit misleading. Millions have already been given to West. What FEMA said is that no more additional funds will be given.
 
Big Sis didn't get the memo.
 
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As of Wednesday, FEMA said the agency and the U.S. Small Business Administration had approved more than $7 million in aid and low-interest loans to West residents impacted by the blast. FEMA also is paying 75 percent of the costs of debris removal and will reimburse the state and the municipality for the initial emergency response.
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Not exactly the same as "denies funds", now is it?
 
To further a point, from the article:

It's not unusual for FEMA to turn down that level of assistance for emergencies not stemming from natural disasters. In 2010, for example, officials denied a request for millions in aid after a gas pipeline explosion that consumed a Northern California neighborhood.
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So I guess this isn't anything out of the norm either.
 
The government doesn't exist to bail out everyone from every disaster...
 
DiAnna said:
From the OP's Link:



Not exactly the same as "denies funds", now is it?
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True, but what is worse is that, after Hurricane Sandy, Rick Perry himself said that FEMA should not have given those victims relief. What a hypocrite!!

However, I think FEMA should have helped to rebuild the school, and is being a bit stingy, despite having already given aid. And, although I can't prove it, I believe that it's payback for Perry's statements about Sandy's victims not deserving Federal aid. If this is true, then FEMA has acted immorally, IMHO. Politics should never play into a situation. If disaster strikes anywhere in America, then it has struck America, and we should all act like Americans, and give.
 
danarhea said:
True, but what is worse is that, after Hurricane Sandy, Rick Perry himself said that FEMA should not have given those victims relief. What a hypocrite!!

However, I think FEMA should have helped to rebuild the school, and is being a bit stingy, despite having already given aid. And, although I can't prove it, I believe that it's payback for Perry's statements about Sandy's victims not deserving Federal aid. If this is true, then FEMA has acted immorally, IMHO. Politics should never play into a situation. If disaster strikes anywhere in America, then it has struck America, and we should all act like Americans, and give.
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I don't disagree, but I'm not familiar with all FEMA rules. It's logical, however, that a localized non-natural disaster affecting a single town would not be at the top of the list, as would a natural disaster covering wide swaths of the population.

A couple of years ago in California, a PG&E gas line exploded nearly 3 dozen homes destroyed, many deaths. It destroyed the town. Although IIRC FEMA gave some limited aid to those who'd lost homes, allowing them temporarily housing in motels, etc., it certainly did not repair the homes/schools destroyed. It assisted on a limited basis... and it was a lot less than $7 million bucks and footing 75% of the clean-up costs!

I doubt Rick Perry's hypocrisy had anything to do with it. Probably just FEMA policy.
 
DiAnna said:
I don't disagree, but I'm not familiar with all FEMA rules. It's logical, however, that a localized non-natural disaster affecting a single town would not be at the top of the list, as would a natural disaster covering wide swaths of the population.

A couple of years ago in California, a PG&E gas line exploded nearly 3 dozen homes destroyed, many deaths. It destroyed the town. Although IIRC FEMA gave some limited aid to those who'd lost homes, allowing them temporarily housing in motels, etc., it certainly did not repair the homes/schools destroyed. It assisted on a limited basis... and it was a lot less than $7 million bucks and footing 75% of the clean-up costs!

I doubt Rick Perry's hypocrisy had anything to do with it. Probably just FEMA policy.
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Funds from FEMA helped rebuild the Boardwalk after Hurricane Sandy. If FEMA can fund entertainment, then it can certainly fund a school.
 
Texmex said:
FEMA denies funds to West, TX, following plant explosion | abc13.com

Obama told the people of West that they would not be forgotten by the government during this time of need. What a liar!
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let me give you something to actually whine about

tejas has imposed a fee on each property insurance policy to go into a fund for volunteer fire departments in the state, such as the one which lost five members in west, tx

while it has accrued $91 million in that manner it is refusing to now disburse the monies for their intended/stated purposes

'good' reich wing state governance:

Texas lawmakers cut volunteer firefighters off from $91 million in earmarked funds | The Raw Story
 
radcen said:
Where's the fertilizer plant's insurance company?
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In regard to the fertilizer plant, those who owned it should be in jail for manslaughter. The plant failed safety inspections constantly before it finally blew up, and the owners never made required corrections.
 
danarhea said:
Funds from FEMA helped rebuild the Boardwalk after Hurricane Sandy. If FEMA can fund entertainment, then it can certainly fund a school.
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As part of state-wide disaster assistance. Again, I'm not familiar with FEMA policy, but it's possible that once FEMA determines a dollar amount for state disaster relief, the state officials themselves may allocate how it's used.

You simply can't equate a local tragedy without an official emergency declaration with a state(s) natural disaster with a declared federal state of emergency.
 
DiAnna said:
As part of state-wide disaster assistance. Again, I'm not familiar with FEMA policy, but it's possible that once FEMA determines a dollar amount for state disaster relief, the state officials themselves may allocate how it's used.

You simply can't equate a local tragedy without an official emergency declaration with a state(s) natural disaster with a declared federal state of emergency.
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disaster assistance was intended to be for victims of NATURAL disasters
not so much man made ones ... but that distinction is often ignored in order to provide immediate assistance to major non-natural disaster victims

sandy was a natural disaster
plant explosion, not so much
 
danarhea said:
True, but what is worse is that, after Hurricane Sandy, Rick Perry himself said that FEMA should not have given those victims relief. What a hypocrite!!

However, I think FEMA should have helped to rebuild the school, and is being a bit stingy, despite having already given aid. And, although I can't prove it, I believe that it's payback for Perry's statements about Sandy's victims not deserving Federal aid. If this is true, then FEMA has acted immorally, IMHO. Politics should never play into a situation. If disaster strikes anywhere in America, then it has struck America, and we should all act like Americans, and give.
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You have any evidence to back that up, or is it conspiracy nonsense, believed because you want to believe it.

danarhea said:
Funds from FEMA helped rebuild the Boardwalk after Hurricane Sandy. If FEMA can fund entertainment, then it can certainly fund a school.
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Schools are state funded.
 
Obama getting some political payback on Texas? Why should anyone be surprised?
 
apdst said:
Obama getting some political payback on Texas? Why should anyone be surprised?
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Except they have been given money and FEMA has a record of not giving additional money to non-natural disasters.
 
DiAnna said:
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Not exactly the same as "denies funds", now is it?
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Well, Texas says it needs 50,000,000 but da prez says yuo aint gonna get it cuz we needs it in Chicago to buy mo crack fo our kids.
 
rhinefire said:
Well, Texas says it needs 50,000,000 but da prez says yuo aint gonna get it cuz we needs it in Chicago to buy mo crack fo our kids.
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Or in reality, FEMA is following what it told California, one of the President's states, that non-natural disasters do not get as much money.
 
apdst said:
Obama getting some political payback on Texas? Why should anyone be surprised?
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what?

soccerboy22 said:
Article title is a bit misleading. Millions have already been given to West. What FEMA said is that no more additional funds will be given.
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DiAnna said:
From the OP's Link:



Not exactly the same as "denies funds", now is it?
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soccerboy22 said:
To further a point, from the article:



So I guess this isn't anything out of the norm either.
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apdst said:
Obama getting some political payback on Texas? Why should anyone be surprised?
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Pasts didn't bother to read about what really happened? Why should anyone be surprised?

Funny how big governments and liberal spending are terrible, unless it would benefit Republican voters then WHERE'S MY MONEY OBAMA!? :mad:
 
radcen said:
Where's the fertilizer plant's insurance company?
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It's Perry's and his cronies idea of the free market...

'privatize profits and socialize losses'
 
Deuce said:
Pasts didn't bother to read about what really happened? Why should anyone be surprised?

Funny how big governments and liberal spending are terrible, unless it would benefit Republican voters then WHERE'S MY MONEY OBAMA!? :mad:
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But, when Bush didn't come up with the cash, it was time for impeachment.
 
BWG said:
It's Perry's and his cronies idea of the free market...

'privatize profits and socialize losses'
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Care to give us some details about your point?

Meanwhile, out here in the real world, the insurace company(s) will have to be sued and it's going to take a couple years to get that money.

The government coild go ahead and put up some front money, then the insurance company could pay it back once the law suit is settled, but no, it's better to do nothing and blame the private sector for government incompetance.
 
soccerboy22 said:
Or in reality, FEMA is following what it told California, one of the President's states, that non-natural disasters do not get as much money.
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How much money did the government spend on the oil spill?
 
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