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A victory for the morning-after pill
Opinion: A victory for the morning-after pill - CNN.com

The fight started a year and a half ago, when apparently for the first time in history, the secretary of health and human services overruled a Food and Drug Administration decision. The FDA said Plan B should be sold the way aspirin is sold -- with no restrictions. The Obama administration wanted age limits; a coalition of reproductive rights groups sued the government, and on Monday, the Justice Department backed down and ended the legal wrangling

Plan B is safe. Long before HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius overruled the FDA, adults could buy it without a prescription. If you were 17 and could show identification proving your age, you could also buy the drug without a prescription. If you were 16 and younger, you needed one.
This is not the way drugs are normally treated. Usually, there are prescription drugs and over-the-counter drugs. Few fall into this prove-your-age category. Pseudoephedrine does, for instance, because people are concerned you might take it and make crystal meth. But the vast, vast majority of medications do not. To enact this kind of pre-authorization, you'd need a compelling reason.

As the FDA conducted the review that informed its decision, the Center for Drug Evaluation and Research specifically evaluated whether Plan B was safe and effective in younger girls, whether they understood its proper use, and whether they appreciated that it wouldn't protect them from sexually transmitted infections. The center found that girls did understand all of these points, and that's why it ruled that it could be sold to them without a prescription.
This argument seems to be applied only to Plan B, and not any other drugs. For instance, in 2011, more than 117,000 calls were made to poison control centers for kids under the age of 5 because of exposure to pain medications. More than 44,000 calls were made for small children exposed to antihistamines. Even more calls were made for adults. These drugs cause thousands of problems a year, and sometimes even deaths. Yet no one thinks about making those medications harder to get.


Im glad this nonsense is over, if it met the requirements of other drugs not restricted there was ZERO reason to restrict this one.
The FDA assess danger and effectiveness etc. not morals.

Backup links:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...mply-with-new-york-morning-after-pill-ruling/
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/10/health/court-birth-control/index.html
 
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A victory for the morning-after pillThe FDA assess danger and effectiveness etc. not morals.

I have mixed feelings on the subject.

Seems like a blow to parental responsibility, but also a blow to government nanny-ism.
 
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I have mixed feelings on the subject.

Seems like a blow to parental responsibility, but also a blow to government nanny-ism.

could be either but many people have a different opinion and think this is being responsible. Not saying they are factually right just saying opinions vary.
 
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today, can children legally overrule the parents stance on vaccinations?

this sees like a very similar issue
 
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I personally think it's a bad idea that a kid can't consent to her own dental work, or her own minor surgical procedure, but can take a drug, which is effective enough to prevent pregnancy, without parental consent.
 
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today, can children legally overrule the parents stance on vaccinations?

this sees like a very similar issue

are vaccinations deemed of the same safety as aspirin and plan b?
then they arent similar at all.

its about classification of the drug, FDA deemed it to be equal to aspirin in classification.
 
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I personally think it's a bad idea that a kid can't consent to her own dental work, or her own minor surgical procedure, but can take a drug, which is effective enough to prevent pregnancy, without parental consent.

there are teenage pimps smiling all over the world tonight
 
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are vaccinations deemed of the same safety as aspirin and plan b?

aspirin has a fair number of emergency's associated with its use in a typical year. Not sure how we compare, but I would say they are all extremely safe when used as directed.


its about classification of the drug, FDA deemed it to be equal to aspirin in classification.

any chance this decision is based on politics and not science?

for instance, is cannabis controlled based on danger, or politics?
 
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1.) aspirin has a fair number of emergency's associated with its use in a typical year.
2.)Not sure how we compare, but I would say they are all extremely safe when used as directed.
3.)any chance this decision is based on politics and not science?
4.) for instance, is cannabis controlled based on danger, or politics?

1.) whats fair? by whos standards?
2.) im not sure either but i would never compare getting a shot of vaccine to aspirin/plan b.
Some vacs you have to be monitored for a while.
3.) no, the fight against it was based on politics.

the fda deemed it aspirin save and this is the first time government tried to go against the FDA.(this is in the article.)
Obama is actually against this which doesnt fly with a "stereotypical" political argument

4.) hmm good segue but i dont know if there is a factual answer to that. Has the FDA officially rulled one way or another? who ruled on alcohol? has the FDA ever?

regardless i think those are argument to allow cannabis also not government limit plan b, what do you think?
 
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Huzzah! Now, waiting for the inevitable class action lawsuits against the manufacturers and the FDA when the side effects get to the minority of users.

Not to mention this is a serious overreach on the FDA's part. Not their call to make at all.
 
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And a gazillion young girls who are going to think that sex is no big deal.

You mean that they'll think just like guys do.......................
 
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1.) whats fair? by whos standards?

in this context, fair = a reportable amount. (hundreds die a year from overdose)

2.) im not sure either but i would never compare getting a shot of vaccine to aspirin/plan b.

I would never compare aspirin with plan b.

Few parents take a stance against over the counter pain killers. Many take a conflicting stance on issues such as vaccinations, and teen pregnancy. This is a real issue involving parental responsibility. comparing it to aspirin is just an attempt to ignore this reality.
 
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1. Good news.

2. It's funny how some people act like this decision is going to all of sudden change how the world thinks about sex. It's not. Kids who are having sex are going to continue. And kids who are not will continue to refrain.
 
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in this context, fair = a reportable amount. (hundreds die a year from overdose)

2.) I would never compare aspirin with plan b.

3.)Few parents take a stance against over the counter pain killers. Many take a conflicting stance on issues such as vaccinations, and teen pregnancy.

4.)This is a real issue involving parental responsibility.

5.)comparing it to aspirin is just an attempt to ignore this reality.

1.)and who are these 100s
not doubting you at all just trying to get insight on why the FDA doest consider it.

infants? people not following rules, people double dosing or mixing with other stuff
why did they die

etc etc

im "guessing" if you research that stuff youll find the answer

2.) why? FDA is only about safety effectiveness etc. I see no reason not to classify them as the same from the studies i seen.

3.) parents opinions dont concern me with FDA decisions, nor do they matter.

4.) like i said early millions of people feel this is responsible, not saying they are right and you are wrong im saying you both have opinions and ones that are meaningless to the FDA and their job.

5.) or its doing exactly what the FDA is supposed to do.
 
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You mean that they'll think just like guys do.......................

Yeah, that's the shame of it all. Historically, it's been women who were the nurturers and took commitments seriously. It's the glue that holds societies together.
 
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1. Good news.

2. It's funny how some people act like this decision is going to all of sudden change how the world thinks about sex. It's not. Kids who are having sex are going to continue. And kids who are not will continue to refrain.

ding ding ding ding
 
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Huzzah! Now, waiting for the inevitable class action lawsuits against the manufacturers and the FDA when the side effects get to the minority of users.

Not to mention this is a serious overreach on the FDA's part. Not their call to make at all.

its exactly what they are supposed to do, they classify drugs.
Am i missing something?

did they do something new i missed in the articles?
 
Re: A victory for the morning-after pill

today, can children legally overrule the parents stance on vaccinations?

this sees like a very similar issue

False dichotomy. Vaccinations do not have anywhere near the life changing impact on lives as being pregnant does. 15 year old kids who don't want to have kids shouldn't be force to anymore who those that don't want to abort should be. Essentially, you're comparing apples and oranges.
 
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are vaccinations deemed of the same safety as aspirin and plan b?
then they arent similar at all.

its about classification of the drug, FDA deemed it to be equal to aspirin in classification.


The " Plan B" pill is first, NOT as effective as other methods of contraception, and isn't intended for routine use.

Barbiturates, for example greatly lower the effectivness of the pill, AND it does nothing to stop sexually transmitted diseases.

I think it's a failure for our society, as our ever devolving culture now, with our Presidents help moves towards the normalilasation of what are basivally kids having sex.

Obama, what a "cool dude".....he brought this up to a round of applause but ignored the increase in STDs among teen agers over the last 5 years.

He's a dirt bag are as any Politician that pushes a potentially dangerous drug for political expediency.
 
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a victory for the morning after pill but a defeat for parental rights and a defeat for the right to life
 
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False dichotomy. Vaccinations do not have anywhere near the life changing
impact on lives as being pregnant does. 15 year old kids who don't want to have kids shouldn't be force to anymore who those that don't want to abort should be. Essentially, you're comparing apples and oranges.

What ever happened to the moral choice to wait until you were at least an adult to have unprotected sex ?

This pill just removes more of the consequence of unprotected sex, and among immature young people gives the wrong message.

How life changing is it to have a STD at the age of 14 ?

Look up the statistics and get back to me.
 
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its exactly what they are supposed to do, they classify drugs.
Am i missing something?

did they do something new i missed in the articles?

Yep, the DEA and the Department of Health and Human Services classifies drugs in this country.

The DEA also may begin an investigation of a drug at any time based upon information received from laboratories, state and local law enforcement and regulatory agencies, or other sources of information. Once the DEA has collected the necessary data, the Deputy Administrator of DEA,[14] requests from HHS a scientific and medical evaluation and recommendation as to whether the drug or other substance should be controlled or removed from control. This request is sent to the Assistant Secretary of Health of HHS. Then, HHS solicits information from the Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration and evaluations and recommendations from the National Institute on Drug Abuse and, on occasion, from the scientific and medical community at large. The Assistant Secretary, by authority of the Secretary, compiles the information and transmits back to the DEA a medical and scientific evaluation regarding the drug or other substance, a recommendation as to whether the drug should be controlled, and in what schedule it should be placed.

The medical and scientific evaluations are binding to the DEA with respect to scientific and medical matters. The recommendation on scheduling is binding only to the extent that if HHS recommends that the substance not be controlled, the DEA may not control the substance.

Source

Congress has the power to reschedule as well. The FDA has no authority here. Their mandate is to investigate the safety and efficacy of the drugs submitted for their review. They're like the Underwriters Laboratory.
 
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1.)The " Plan B" pill is first, NOT as effective as other methods of contraception, and isn't intended for routine use.

2.)Barbiturates, for example greatly lower the effectivness of the pill, AND it does nothing to stop sexually transmitted diseases.

3.) I think it's a failure for our society, as our ever devolving culture now, with our Presidents help moves towards the normalilasation of what are basivally kids having sex.

4.) Obama, what a "cool dude".....he brought this up to a round of applause but ignored the increase in STDs among teen agers over the last 5 years.

5.) He's a dirt bag are as any Politician that pushes a potentially dangerous drug for political expediency.

1.) ok this has no impact on anything i said
2.) see answer 1
3.) Obama is actually against it
4.) again meaningless to the topic at hand FDA/plan B
5.0 he is a dirt bag for being against it but giving up the fight because it wasnt winnable? hmmm ok you are free to have that opinion but he isnt the topic.
 
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Raise you hand if you have a daughter.
 
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