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State Department memo reveals possible cover-ups, halted investigations

actually, if this story has legitimate legs, it could be THE issue that puts a wooden stake in the heart of hillary's repeated white house aspirations
Which is a very good thing because after 8 years of Obama, the US is going to need quality leadership to undo the damage he has done_
 
Hey. I do not blame just the MSM. I blame stupid liberals too, who worship Obama to the point of adoration, and would still do so even if Obama were caught in bed with a live boy AND a dead woman.

Do you know any ............... :roll:

Funny, you can say the same thing about Bushbots back in the day. I know plenty of those.
 
It's not impossible for Cons to be completely wrong to and nothing happen. But hey keep circle jerking an impeachment hoping it happens. Just don't get all butthurt when it doesn't happen.

That was incomprehensible.
 
Which is a very good thing because after 8 years of Obama, the US is going to need quality leadership to undo the damage he has done_

not a problem
Elizabeth Warren has the leadership our country needs - plus her agenda is in sync with the average American citizen
 
I love how people blame the MSM in today's age with internet, raido, satellite, etc. It's a poor excuse to blame the media.

But please, if you want to make a boogyman and look foolish, by all means go right ahead. I'll just stand back and laugh. I love it when people have to blame someone else.
So you believe the MSM had nothing to do with the results of the last two presidential elections_

The reason is (according to you) the facts were easily obtainable on the "internet, raido, satellite, etc"_

ie; You believe every American now verifies every thing reported by the MSM, leaving it blameless_

Silly me; why didn't I think of that?!
 
not a problem
Elizabeth Warren has the leadership our country needs - plus her agenda is in sync with the average American citizen

Didn't she stress that she was of American Indian heritage? That was bizarre ... but it worked.
And remember when Obama made up a girl named Julia for his '12' campaign?
Bizarre too ... but it worked for him as well.

obama warren griffin singing.jpg
 
not a problem
Elizabeth Warren has the leadership our country needs - plus her agenda is in sync with the average American citizen

Oh, good lord. Not that self-promoting loon.

This country isn't ready for it's first female Cherokee Indian as president.
 
So you believe the MSM had nothing to do with the results of the last two presidential elections_

The reason is (according to you) the facts were easily obtainable on the "internet, raido, satellite, etc"_

ie; You believe every American now verifies every thing reported by the MSM, leaving it blameless_

Silly me; why didn't I think of that?!
Absolutely. I can say anything I want. It's up to you to verify it. So if I just make **** up because it suits me to do so, and you believe it because you didn't check it out, then silly you. Sooooo, when you get right down to it, truth is possibly only a small part of the proposition the media offers the public.
 
First quesion that popped into my mind was ... does Bill ever accompany Hillary on these trips?
Could explain a lot.
 
Which is a very good thing because after 8 years of Obama, the US is going to need quality leadership to undo the damage he has done_
not a problem
Elizabeth Warren has the leadership our country needs - plus her agenda is in sync with the average American citizen
Exactly how much "undoing the damage" do you actually believe another democrat politician will actually "undo" considering the innate progressive policies of the 21st Century Democrat Party?!

Those progressive policies invariably promote bigger government, more socialism, ever increasing spending and the higher taxes and unlimited borrowing that is necessary to pay for it all, which is not going to get this nation on track to economic recovery_

Does all this actually sound "in sync with the average American citizen"?! No it doesn't because these Progressive Democrat Politicians never tell the voters these things__They just smile and make beautiful speeches about all the wonderful "Free Stuff"!
 
So you believe the MSM had nothing to do with the results of the last two presidential elections_

The reason is (according to you) the facts were easily obtainable on the "internet, raido, satellite, etc"_

ie; You believe every American now verifies every thing reported by the MSM, leaving it blameless_

Silly me; why didn't I think of that?!

I believe with the media available through the internet, radio, satelite, etc. NO, the media didn't have anything to do with the results.

But hey, throw your little tantrum and blame the media all you want it doesn't really matter to me. However, I will continue to point out how dumb it is to blame the media.

Sounds like your problem is with the people, not the media. Don't like who people vote for, blame them. Or are you one of those that always looks for someone else to blame?
 
President Boehner?
Only a president with strong libertarian convictions could do what is necessary to get us out of the red_

IMO, such a president would be Senator Rand Paul of Ky, who is more than qualified to do the job_
 
not a problem
Elizabeth Warren has the leadership our country needs - plus her agenda is in sync with the average American citizen

She lacks the character and the personal ethics to be an effective leader.
 
concerning the belgian ambassador, howard gutman, accused of sex with minors

very revealing:

QUESTION:  Okay.  But again, getting back to the Ambassador, if he is still in place – he’s still working – doesn’t that imply that that investigation is over if he can remain in his position?

MS. PSAKI:  Again, I’m not going to speak to the status of any of these investigations or any individual cases.  Of course, we look into every allegation that is made seriously.  We would take every allegation seriously.  But I’m not going to outline the status of those or any individual cases from here.

QUESTION:  Jen, my understanding is that the case – that the allegations, which were reasonably serious against the Ambassador, have actually been proved to be false and he’s been completely exonerated.  Wouldn’t it be better for you to say publicly that that is the case?

MS. PSAKI:  Well, as a matter of policy, I’m just not going to talk about personnel processes or reviews that have gone on or are ongoing.

QUESTION:  But surely you not talking about it undermines his position.  I mean, I’m aware of the statement.  I’ve seen the statement that the Ambassador has put out himself.  But it would be a show of confidence on the State Department’s part to – if that is the case, if he’s been completely exonerated of these accusations, just to say it; just to say they were false and we’ve looked into it and the matter is now closed and he has our full confidence.

MS. PSAKI:  I just don’t have anything more to add on any individual cases.

QUESTION:  Well, then why don’t you just say the – why don’t you try and answer this:  You said that the October 2012 memo, which has been the basis for this, contained unsubstantiated allegations.  To the best of your knowledge, are those allegations still unsubstantiated?

MS. PSAKI:  I don’t want to go through case by case or make a sweeping --

QUESTION:  I’m not asking you case by case.  Well, you said they’re unsubstantiated.  Are they – after they were investigated, are they – do they remain unsubstantiated?

MS. PSAKI:  There are some investigations that are still ongoing, some that have been concluded.

State Dept. Spokeswoman Refuses To Answer Whether Higher Ups Stopped Investigation | RealClearPolitics
 
today:

Both chambers of Congress are now looking into claims that the State Department covered up allegations of misconduct.

Reports that indicated the State Department dropped or influenced investigations into State employees’ alleged involvement in sexual assaults and engaging with prostitutes “are very serious and require a dispassionate investigation of the facts,” said Adam Sharon, a spokesman for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee chaired by Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.).

The Committee is looking into the alleged actions, and this situation underscores the need for an appointment of a permanent Inspector General for the Department of State to assure that allegations of this sort are quickly, fully, and appropriately addressed,” Sharon said in an email.

Rep. Ed Royce (R-Calif.) called reports about the State cover-up “very concerning” and said it’s past time for the administration to appoint an inspector general to the department.

The chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, which has oversight of the State Department, said Tuesday on MSNBC’s “Andrea Mitchell Reports” that he will “certainly” be demanding action from State.

It’s not just what happened at the lower level. It’s the engagement of the political appointees in the process which undermines the ability to have that deterrent effect to have those investigations be successful,” Royce said of the reports. “You have a situation where senior political appointees at the State Department leaned in and in these reports clearly attempted to call off investigations, manipulated investigations not just on misconduct but on allegedly criminal activity.”

If the allegations are true, Royce said Tuesday, individuals involved should be fired, or possibly charged.

“If it turns out to be true of them, I think the appropriate manners will be taken and they’ll probably be relieved of their position,” Royce said. “We’re talking about allegations that are criminal here; this is not just misconduct.”

As for the Senate majority leader, when asked about the report, Harry Reid said, “I don’t know what you are talking about. What are you talking about?"

Hill investigating State Department report - Tal Kopan and Burgess Everett - POLITICO.com
 
Absolutely. I can say anything I want. It's up to you to verify it. So if I just make **** up because it suits me to do so, and you believe it because you didn't check it out, then silly you.
Unlike the gullible masses, I am well aware of the facts and the true agenda of the MSM_

Sooooo, when you get right down to it, truth is possibly only a small part of the proposition the media offers the public.
My point exactly;

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as you can see in my post below from another thread_
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...cords-fox-news-reporter-8.html#post1061909969
I'm what you might call a "news nut"__I listen to all major news/media programming_

Primarily because I want to be kept informed of what they are trying to make us believe_

All news from all sources is now filtered through ideopolitical propaganda and indoctrination_

CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC and NPR on the left along with Fox and AM radio on the right_

NPR is by far the most egregious because it is funded in part by American taxpayers_
Are you aware of the truth or just another loyal member of the gullible masses???
 
I blame stupid liberals too, who worship Obama to the point of adoration, and would still do so even if Obama were caught in bed with a live boy AND a dead woman.

Meh, that sounds acceptable. Now, a live woman and a dead boy, THAT is where I draw the line.

;)
 
Exactly how much "undoing the damage" do you actually believe another democrat politician will actually "undo" considering the innate progressive policies of the 21st Century Democrat Party?!

Those progressive policies invariably promote bigger government, more socialism, ever increasing spending and the higher taxes and unlimited borrowing that is necessary to pay for it all, which is not going to get this nation on track to economic recovery_

Does all this actually sound "in sync with the average American citizen"?! No it doesn't because these Progressive Democrat Politicians never tell the voters these things__They just smile and make beautiful speeches about all the wonderful "Free Stuff"!

Let me know when a progressive Democrat actually runs for President and I might vote for him or her. So far I have only seen corporatist Democrats in that seat.
 
Unlike the gullible masses, I am well aware of the facts and the true agenda of the MSM_

My point exactly;

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as you can see in my post below from another thread_
Are you aware of the truth or just another loyal member of the gullible masses???
I'm aware of truth but I'm also an insignificant member of the masses, gullible or not.
 

Hey, nice list. Of course, 90% of the list deals with the NSA abuse of power. This is a legitimate scandal, but its not about Obama or Bush or Clinton.... its about all of them. Its about bi-partisan abuse of power.

Frankly, I wish we would be focusing all of our attention on this, as it is legitimate... unlikely all of the other overblown so-called scandals created off partial evidence gathered in dumpster dives.
 
its about all of them

only one of em is prez

“In many ways it’s even more troubling than [Bush era] warrantless wiretapping, in part because the program is purely domestic,” says Alex Abdo, a staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union’s National Security Project.”But this is also an indiscriminate dragnet. Say what you will about warrantless wiretapping, at least it was targeted at agents of Al Qaeda. This includes every customer of Verizon Business Services.”

NSA's Verizon Spying Order Specifically Targeted Americans, Not Foreigners - Forbes

Frankly, I wish...

why would you think that i or any other working adult other than your mom would care what you wish?

partial evidence gathered in dumpster dives

LOL!

you don't read very much...

just benhazi, as of a few weeks ago:

beast:U.S. Officials Knew Libya Attacks Were Work of Al Qaeda Affiliates - The Daily Beast

cbs: Lt Col Woods says his 16 member team pulled a month before attack - CBS News

the hill: GOP: US Consulate received repeated threats, had requested more security - The Hill's Global Affairs

wapo: White House secret meetings examine al-Qaeda threat in North Africa - The Washington Post

the hill: Report: FBI still not on scene in Benghazi - The Hill's DEFCON Hill

wsj: Militant Link to Libya Attack - WSJ.com

nyt: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/w...-attack-scoffs-at-us.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

beast: U.S. Consulate in Benghazi Bombed Twice in Run-Up to 9/11 Anniversary - The Daily Beast

wapo: Sensitive documents left behind at U.S. diplomatic post in Libya - The Washington Post

ex: Dems join chorus questioning Obama on attack | WashingtonExaminer

wapo: Panetta says undetermined terrorist group carried out attack on US Consulate in Libya - The Washington Post

abc: Some Administration Officials Were Concerned About Initial White House Push Blaming Benghazi Attack on Mob, Video - ABC News

wsj: Gross Security Failure - WSJ.com

abc: Security Concerns Keep FBI From Scene of Ambassador's Murder, Official Says - ABC News

wapo: From video to terrorist attack: a definitive timeline of administration statements on the Libya attack - The Washington Post

youtube: Tammy Duckworth: Marines Should Have Been in Benghazi - YouTube

beast: Obama's Shaky Libya Narrative - The Daily Beast

cns: Lieberman Calls for Independent Investigation into Libyan Attack | CNS News

cnn: Exclusive: Amb. Chris Stevens worried about al Qaeda hit list – Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

huffpo: CNN's Use Of Christopher Stevens' Journal Is 'Disgusting': State Dept.

cbs: Why Did The White House Take So Long To Admit Libya Attack Was Terrorism? « CBS

weekly standard: Permanent Spin | The Weekly Standard

wsj: Miscues Before Libya Assault - WSJ

independent: US 'was warned of Libya embassy attack but did nothing' - Independent.ie

fox: Diplomatic, western posts targeted repeatedly in Benghazi in run-up to deadly assault | Fox News

buzzfeed: US Embassy In Cairo Deletes Controversial Tweets

sentinel: Administration Insists Benghazi Attack Not Premeditated | Atlantic Sentinel

independent: Revealed: inside story of US envoy's assassination - World Politics - World - The Independent

atlantic wire: Report: Ambassador Stevens Said He Was on an Al-Qaeda Hit List

cns: Where Was Obama on Night of Benghazi Attack?

cbs, 60 minutes: Obama Says Attacks In Libya And Egypt Are Just "Bumps In The Road" - YouTube

cbs: White House officials on Benghazi: We're the idiots - CBS News

don't make me do the irs, it's uglier

why can't, for example, obama state flatly when he learned what was going on for two years at his tax collection agency?

how could his cos know and not he, how could his white house counsel?

why did shulman and miller lie to congress, why did lerner take the fifth?

why does the white house accuse "rogues" in cincy?

why does the irs have the medical records of 15 million californians?

why does he keep learning all this stuff in the newspaper?

these questions will not go away til answered

sorry

did you read (LOL!), by the way, what pulitzer prize winner eugene robinson wrote about the rosen scandal?

did you hear chuck todd, jake tapper, tom brokaw, ron fournier...

quite a few others

stay tuned
 
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