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California College involved in deadly shooting.

head of joaquin said:
Can't even wait till the bury the dead before you start your ugly NRA agitprop. That's what boomsticklovers do, I guess.

Meantime the gun nut had a ballistic vest. Of course the NRA is against banning those too.
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you gun haters love to hear about massacres. The blood of innocents is the fuel that powers your jihad against our rights.

why should ballistic vests be banned? you want more victims disarmed? if cops have them so should we.
 
head of joaquin said:
Hey look, kids, a silly post that conflates banning guns with gun free zones. Oh the boomsticklovers and their jests.
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those who hate guns the most tend to be those most likely to be shot by honest people
 
Jerry said:
That's not "on the street", that's a federaly licinced dealer. Big diference there.

"On the street" means a hot gun with bodies on it getting passed around from convicted criminal to convicted criminal where the buyer leaves money at a drop and goes to another to pick up the gun.
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Actually 'on the street' doesn't mean that at all. most 'on the street' pistols are bulk buys out of state that are brought in for illegal resale. they have no bodies on them. Most 'on the street' buys are not secret squirrel drops where the buyer can get ripped off, the buy is face to face. (This ain't I Spy )

Making silly statements about illegal means can't have happened is no help when other states sell dozens of firearms at a go and the ATF is left chasing a long after the fact. More to the point would be a nation wide ban on multiple sales in a given time frame to end the profit for straw man purchases.

But that has the NRA mouthpieces wailing away about tyranny, as if anyone routinely buys more than two firearms at a time. :roll:
 
notquiteright said:
Actually 'on the street' doesn't mean that at all. most 'on the street' pistols are bulk buys out of state that are brought in for illegal resale. they have no bodies on them. Most 'on the street' buys are not secret squirrel drops where the buyer can get ripped off, the buy is face to face. (This ain't I Spy )

Making silly statements about illegal means can't have happened is no help when other states sell dozens of firearms at a go and the ATF is left chasing a long after the fact. More to the point would be a nation wide ban on multiple sales in a given time frame to end the profit for straw man purchases.

But that has the NRA mouthpieces wailing away about tyranny, as if anyone routinely buys more than two firearms at a time. :roll:
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anyone who buys more than ONE handgun from the same dealer in 5 business days or less is reported to the ATF

the federal government has no proper power banning multiple gun sales

its just another silly thing the anti gun "WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING" people scream for without having a clue that it won't stop anything
 
Lord of Planar said:
But...

But...

But...

Wasn't this a gun free zone?
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of course it was but when gun laws fail the gun haters never say-hey maybe disarming victims is bad, they demand more gun laws. Why? because protecting the innocent HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT motivates the scum who lead the gun control movement
 
TurtleDude said:
anyone who buys more than ONE handgun from the same dealer in 5 business days or less is reported to the ATF

the federal government has no proper power banning multiple gun sales

its just another silly thing the anti gun "WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING" people scream for without having a clue that it won't stop anything
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given the backlog of reports and how few agents there are to follow up the ATF is always behind the curve. As it stands now the feds can't stop multiple sales but I don't see it as Unconstitutional to do so, merely politically unpopular.

I see taking the profit out of 'gun' running as very effective- wont stop it all but will put a huge dent in the across state lines traffic.
 
notquiteright said:
given the backlog of reports and how few agents there are to follow up the ATF is always behind the curve. As it stands now the feds can't stop multiple sales but I don't see it as Unconstitutional to do so, merely politically unpopular.

I see taking the profit out of 'gun' running as very effective- wont stop it all but will put a huge dent in the across state lines traffic.
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well I'd love to hear what part of the constitution properly allows that sort of intrusion
 
Deuce said:
Can't even hold this crap for one post.
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As if the anti-gunners would have held off, had this happened in a more pro-gun state.

Stop playing the victim, please?
 
notquiteright said:
Actually 'on the street' doesn't mean that at all. most 'on the street' pistols are bulk buys out of state that are brought in for illegal resale. they have no bodies on them. Most 'on the street' buys are not secret squirrel drops where the buyer can get ripped off, the buy is face to face. (This ain't I Spy )

Making silly statements about illegal means can't have happened is no help when other states sell dozens of firearms at a go and the ATF is left chasing a long after the fact. More to the point would be a nation wide ban on multiple sales in a given time frame to end the profit for straw man purchases.

But that has the NRA mouthpieces wailing away about tyranny, as if anyone routinely buys more than two firearms at a time. :roll:
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So we agree that "on the street" does not mean legal purchases from licensed gun shops, which was the original claim I was responding to. Cool :peace

So when Obama got in front of the media and said "we need to get weapons of war "off the streets", we agree that he was not talking about legally perched firearms from licensed dealers, as were the guns used in the Sand Hook shooting...licensed and registered and NOT 'assault weapons' according to CT's old AWB.
 
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head of joaquin said:
Hey look, kids, a silly post that conflates banning guns with gun free zones. Oh the boomsticklovers and their jests.
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All part of gun control. I am still in shock this guy did not know it was wrong to hurt and/or kill people. Did he not read the laws?
 
Isn't it funny how these shooters target "gun free zones..."
 
Jerry said:
From your link:

Assault rifles are not semi-auto, by definition. Just another libtard out to stir up peoples fear.
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Yep.

Assault rifles by definition are full automatic.
 
head of joaquin said:
Can't even wait till the bury the dead before you start your ugly NRA agitprop. That's what boomsticklovers do, I guess.

Meantime the gun nut had a ballistic vest. Of course the NRA is against banning those too.
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How do you know he was a gun nut ? He lives oops, lived on the L.A.'s West Side in the Palms District neighborhood, one of the most liberal areas on the Left Coast. As one forum member likes to describe it, "It's a world class city."

Ballistic vest have never killed anyone. And it didn't prevent the cops from killing the shooter.

BTW: Lets remember this shooting spree happened in Obama's America, the Peoples Republic of Santa Monica while Obama was only three miles away having a $10,000 fund raising luncheon. In fact the fund raiser was in Hanoi Jane's and Tom Hayden's old neighborhood where the rich liberal elite live.
 
TurtleDude said:
well I'd love to hear what part of the constitution properly allows that sort of intrusion
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It doesn't stop a person from owning firearms, bans the sale of no weapon, doesn't restrict how many in total a person can own. The 2nd A has no provision protecting the rate at which a citizen can obtain firearms.
 
Texmex said:
I'm surprised some English guy with a knife didn't run up and stop him!
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Not sure what England has to do with this shooting, strange comment to make.
 
5 dead and several others injured as bad as that is it could of been worse given the spree this guy was on. Witnesses say he was very calm and seemed to pose a lot, also a lot of near misses with one witness coming face to face with the shooter and narrowly avoiding being shot in the head. It's also possible he wasn't acting alone,

Authorities also took into custody a second man dressed in black with the words "life is a gamble" on the back of his shirt.

"We are not convinced 100% that the suspect who was killed operated in a solo or alone capacity," Chief Seabrooks added.
 
Cardinal said:
And another massacre. There's something deeply rotten in this country, and the use of guns is just one medium of expression of that fact.
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Probably needs a new thread but that hits the nail on the head. What are the deeper issues which are causing these tragedies? Was it always common place for an American to lose his temper and shoot dead other citizens or go 'postal' for lack of a better term?
Is this a modern phenomena? They always seem to want to kill everyone. Is this down to a hatred of the society they live in? We could just put it down to mental health problems but that still leaves the issue of whether people historically have always done this.
 
Jerry said:
Impossible. Guns are banned from school property in CA, so thers no way this could have happened. Story must be fake.
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Can we please stop with this "the law didn't stop it therefore the law is worthless argument" there's laws against murder and theft which still occur but no one is going to say that its not worth having those laws on the books.
 
Thank Jesus and the NRA that the government doesn't officially keep track of crazy people with guns. I shudder to think of how horrible things would be if the ATF was allowed to audit gun dealers and track where illegal guns enter the black market.
 
All the politics in this thread make me sick. Who sees a shooting and things the way the victims voted is somehow important? ****ing disgusting.
 
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