Re: Revealed: NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily
Thanks for the props, but it seems like you're immersed in your own partisanship. You're more focused on calling out liberals than just saying that this NSA situation is a problem. Even further, you're focusing on liberal partisanship when there is plenty of conservative partisanship in the thread too - starting with the literal first post of the thread.
Absolutely, boht sides are being partisan and both sides are being hypocrites about things at times. Check out post #257 to Powerrob where I basically say as much. I'm less annoyed at the partisanship than I am at the hypocritical attempts to complain about hypocrisy. At thte time I had put up that post, from the posts I read in the thread, the majority of those trying to scream about hypocritical response to this was Democrats, not Republicans. Thus my comments concerning hypocritical responses, NOT partisanship, were somewhat more liberal focused.
(admittedly, I basically ignore Prof's posts because
trying to respond
to a person who types
like this all the time
when he's speaking
Drives me batty so I've just largely given up interacting with him in any way. So I'm sure I probably missed some there)
Though a peak back, it did seem in the midst of discussing things with a couple of posters I did miss a few republicans trying to bitch about hypocrisy on the left such as American
Remember how the Left beat Bush half to death over the Patriot Act? Now here these hypocrites are taking that law to insane limits. And since they and the IRS appear to be such busy-bodies, there's no telling what inane purpose they've contrived to justify their actions.
Which would make me wonder if he Remembered how the Right breathlessly defended Bush over PATRIOT Act and how, using his terms, these "hypocrites" are complaining about the law being used in relatively similar manners.
I've never really had issue with calling out people, left or right, in terms of these things it just usally falls to what I read first.
But yeah, I'm not focused on calling the "NSA situation a problem" because I don't really know if I think it is. As I said in my very first post, I'm not actually sure how I feel about this and I definitely don't feel it's something that we need to seriously rattle the sabers about OBAMA over, though perhaps something to rattle things over in terms of the program itself. We're moving further and further from the tipping point in terms of the balance of liberty/security, so i would hope to see this kind of thing declining rather than remaining static or increasing, but ultimately I see this in a light similar to what I saw it under the Bush Administration. An understandable possible over reach that may end up needing legal or legislative action to stop but that I'm not massively bothered by or feel that the person in charge at the time needs to be destroyed for it as I don't believe it's being done for nefarious purposes.
On this issue, outside of the notion that we need to remove the Patroit Act as a whole, I don't really have a strong feeling either way nor do I really begrudge people who have a strong feeling to either diretion on it. I'm just annoyed by EITHER side acting like their side, on the whole, is acting in a consistent fashion comparitive to a decade ago and using said attitude as a means of attack.
